Nigeria 2

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To continue the discussion.

I thought the comparison with the Duke snd Duchess of Windsor (last post on the previous thread) was interesting.

A visit to a dodgy regime, (Nazi Germany) because they would call Wallis HRH and make it a quasi-royal tour.

Of course, at that point Nazi Germany had a dodgy human rights record, but it was before the horrors of the Holocaust.

Let's face it, with the security and human rights issues there is no way the IG could happen in Nigeria. So that is sn excuse.

Someone mentioned that Harry looks more confident since he married Meghan, I think it is the contrary.

He gets pushed out of her way, elbowed, guided around like he is a toddler, happened again several times on this trip, and when she pulls him back so she can go ahead, he almost jumps out of his skin. Its cringeworthy.

He looks like he has lost all agency and a lot of the time appears on edge, its a bad look and doesn't appear they have a genuine equal relationship or partnership at all.

It just all seems fake and forced doesn't it. The permarictus grins, the waves, the silly speeches. He is a lost fool who I bet misses his df and dh massively. He clearly wants the royal tours, the walkabouts and adulation but he just had to be the one calling the shots.

You wonder where it will all end. They can't hang on to the coat tails of Invictus forever. Somethings got to give and much as Harold is a prize prat you just hope he can keep it all together. I don't think he will. The snub when in London will have stung massively.

It's interesting that they have agreed to be photographed with members of the Sussex squad, therefore endorsing them and their dreadful behaviour towards other members of the rf online.

I agree. He tends to look tense and slightly annoyed when she's around.

And all this hanging out of each other like teenagers, when they're middle aged parents supposedly on a 'work' trip, is ridiculous.

Looks like the , err, dynamic duo have hopped down to Lagos this AM and we see yet again another example of why wiki doesn’t regard the DM as a trusted source.

“Prince Harry and Meghan Markle have today landed in Lagos on their 'quasi-royal' tour.
The Sussexes touched down in the Nigerian capital this morning”

Write out 100 times: The national capital of Nigeria is Abuja.

"He clearly wants the royal tours."

I have read/heard that Harry didn't want some parts of being in the RF but I do think that they (RF) get to do some very interesting things, and they get the back-up from the men in grey suits and the dressers and planners of what to wear where, and I think they must learn a lot from what they have to do. Obviously some organisation has gone into this tour and perhaps Harry does miss that part of his old life.

Agree with this. She’s so controlling it’s cringeworthy.

I thought the whole tour was aimed at US market ?

The way she is dressing the returning to her roots stuff.

I don't get the impression she is trying to play much to Nigerian audience and while they may enjoy pissing off UK officials I don't think they care about UK either.

Suits was not a bad show, but she was a secondary character - I actually think her character was bland and dull and she was sold short as like with many TV shows her character seemed to be ‘attractive woman’.

But she had the level of fame she does now because of who she married not because she was in Suits

Yes and the same for Prince Philip - I think it’s fine to point this out too.

If the likes of Philip Kate and Meghan married into a family that provided good opportunities it doesn’t take away the things they do AFTER the marriage. The DofE scheme is an especially remarkable achievement, yes he could only launch it because he married the future Queen - but it’s still something worthy of praise.

Im not sure I can think of anything equivalent Kate and Meghan have done yet but they’re fairly new in terms of being lifelong Royals.

She's not Nigerian, that is really getting on my nerves.
Her ancesters were apparently from Nigeria, like multi generations ago.
And was it even Nigeria, or simply the West Africa region?
43% Nigerian my arse, maybe 5%
I'm 8% German according to Ancestry DNA and my maternal GM was born there so if Megan's 43% Nigerian, why am I not any higher in my German dna?
It suits her to say that.
Maybe next year she'll be 57% some other country....

To be fair Catherine's Centre for Early Childhood project is starting to yield positive results. A trial that she funded has been well received and they’re planning on expanding with the hope that all health visitors across the UK will use the new assessment method.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/overwhelmingly-positive-results-for-trial-funded-by-princess-of-wales-as-part-of-early-years-work-13098747

hopefully we can hear some more positive things about the project when she returns to work.

I’m assuming it’s 43% because her mother is an African-American whose ancestors were enslaved and trafficked from the region now called Nigeria. Though I’m not sure which tribe she is traced back to.

@TripleDaisySummer I am actually confused about the US market bit. Right now everyone is worried about Gaza, the upcoming election, bad weather, and finances. Most people ignore H & M. Comments about her clothes were negative and people were dubious about her dresses selling out. Their Hollywood dreams appear to have died.

I assumed they were trying to pressure the UK to let them work half in, half out.

You actually don’t inherit equal parts of the DNA of each of your ancestors.

there's no way its 43% though, that's utter bollocks, its likely to be too far back for that high a percentage. Her mum was born in the states and I assume her GPs and GGPs were too. If Doria had actually been born in Nigeria, the percentage would make more sense. I'm not a scientist but still....duh?

Well, scientists have reported that typically an African-American will be on average 73% African. So I’m assuming her percentage is much lower because she is bi-racial.

So 43% is not impossible.

Inkanta · Today 09:27

Intense negativity.

What do you think of Celebitchy? Now that's negativity off-the-scale!

I don't see intense negativity here - I see informed and thoughtful comments for the most part. People are critical but not vicious, or wishing for M's and H's death, or claiming their cancer is made up...and worse.

People on here seem sane, calm and well-adjusted to me...on Celebitchy they are cultish, deranged and have long ago lost touch with reality.

I think it's unlikely it could be that high, but I don't think it really matters. Whatever Nigerian ancestry she has is going back centuries, long before Nigeria existed as a nation state. She doesn't know what ethnicity, or more likely mix of ethnicities, her DNA belongs to. She's not 'Nigerian' in any real sense of the word. As someone said previously, Harry would be more entitled to go around calling himself German, as he has recent German ancestry. But he's not German. He's British. Similarly Meghan is not Nigerian. She is American. And I bet that is how Nigerians think of her too.

Idk, DH's ancestors left China well over 100 years ago - genetically he's 100% Chinese. If you only marry within your own ethnic group then it happens like that.

That's interesting - as I assume they were playing to USA market. The Orchard product line seems focused round that market - her clothing seems more USA based than focused on Nigeria - the focus on roots and being "from" a country having had ancestors from region very american.

Frankly I don't see this trip going over well in UK - there are similar list of things taking headlines here plus actual Royals do pop up - and this trip is actually good example why half in and half out won't work.

Also have impression they aren't that bothered by fitting in with Nigerian's - but maybe they are going over better there.

Meghan's African ancestry goes back a lot longer than 100 years. As far as I know, Doria's family has been American for several generations. And there are so many ethnic groups making up the African American population, so it's not a question of 'marrying within your own ethnic group', especially as unless they do a DNA test, and maybe not even then, most won't know which part of Africa their ancestors came from. It's very different from the Chinese diaspora.

She clearly took the hint about dressing appropriately and is wearing a traditional skirt given to her as a gift, (was someone politely trying to tell her something) , worn with a shirt ........ which actually has shoulders and sleeves.

Yes, she looks much more appropriately dressed today.

Yes, she is American - but when speaking about African-Americans, there is some nuance.

As we all know, becoming an American was not a case of migration, but forced, with no trace of family name.

So once a person has traced their lineage to a region/tribe and that person visits/connects with the region. They are accepted as a “daughter/son” of the soil. They are welcomed “home” in a sense.

So I’m assuming, that’s the reason there’s so much emphasis on her ancestral roots during this trip.