Nigeria 2

[OneHeartySnail]

To continue the discussion.

I thought the comparison with the Duke snd Duchess of Windsor (last post on the previous thread) was interesting.

A visit to a dodgy regime, (Nazi Germany) because they would call Wallis HRH and make it a quasi-royal tour.

Of course, at that point Nazi Germany had a dodgy human rights record, but it was before the horrors of the Holocaust.

Let's face it, with the security and human rights issues there is no way the IG could happen in Nigeria. So that is sn excuse.

There's been a few cringey moments from this personal PR tour (the lack of control with the press pack that's been visible is the most worrying to me, frankly).

But this really takes the biscuit.

H&M are being manipulated, but I am still not sure for what reason.

Why was the UK National Anthem being played? This is not a Royal tour? The Nigerian anthem was played after thus, which was entirely appropriate, the UKs should not.

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Intense negativity.

I find the term “loose canon” rather problematic, the way it’s used on these boards anyway, implying that the British royal family and British establishment are the only people in the world allowed to dictate what charity work others can do or not. And that others somehow need their permission! It’s such a hide bound attitude.

The same term was applied to Diana when she took part in a campaign against land mines just before she died, when the charity said afterwards her efforts had made a significant difference in changing the laws and treaties governing their use.

There are all sorts of different ways to skin a cat! Not one organisation or family has a monopoly!

I’m one of those SAHM, had my own career, and gave it up for children etc.
Luckily my DH did make good money in his career and I didn’t have to go back to work.

I very much have my own identity, interests, friends. If I wasn’t now ill with a serious diagnosis I would be doing some kind of charity work. Point is I wouldn’t be existing in DH’s shadow, and he wouldn’t want me to be. It’s too insular to maintain a long term relationship that way. Marrying my DH is not my greatest achievement. (Don’t tell him)

With H & M, it does sometimes feel like that their brand is constantly being together. Maybe she is overwhelmed by it all, and it has affected her. She actually had a nice life before all this - minor celebrity, money, no one criticising her.

I guess I am annoyed at potentially being lumped into some trophy wife category. I am very much my own person, and made those choices with my husband

I feel it’s completely different with H&M, their brand is their partnership. In particular she seems to have lost her identity into his. Maybe the relationship would seem healthier to the outside world if they also had separate interests and goals. I know Meghan has done some cooking with other women - continuing that could have been a great thing.

Having written this, I am starting to feel sympathy for her. I completely disagree with the way they have behaved. But I guess it’s because they are immature in their outlook and understanding of others - and by their own actions they’ve just made their situation worse and worse. They’ve focussed on short term gain, rather than long term goals.

There are all sorts of different ways to skin a cat! Not one organisation or family has a monopoly!

Of course there are. But I’d be interested to know what other charity workers conduct a military inspection when they visit a country not their own, or stand up for the playing of a national anthem of another country to the one they are visiting. Because that kind of activity seems quite linked to just a couple of organisations in general, really, and Meghan and Harry definitely aren’t In Nigeria in those capacities.

I just knew she'd wear inappropriate, ill fitting, creased clothes, though I didn't anticipate just how flesh baring and disrespectful they'd be.
I also knew they'd both spout a load of bollocks, and they haven't disappointed there. Harry asking some poor chap about naming his false leg, and Meghan coming out with the usual role model guff.
As for lecturing regarding mental health, well this pair are bloody mental, so what's that all about?

Meghan’s pre Harry “advocacy” has been discussed extensively on these threads. I think you need to do a little more research. Her full time job was and always had been self promotion. And the handful of tone deaf events you list were just that.

They look absolutely delighted to be with members of their Sussex Sewer Squad. 🙄
Matching outfits too, it’s like a cult.
They absolutely condone the vile behaviour don’t they? It’s sickening.

Oh and Meghan was born to an Emmy award winning, very high salaried lighting director, says she grew up on set (very handy for an would be actress) and went to one of the best private schools in Hollywood. That’s money and influence straight off the bat that most of us are not born with.

Yep. I agree.

So you find only my posts negative and so keep quoting them. Ok. Why don’t you add something positive by way of discussion?

Sorry but I’m sniggering at the assertion that she was ever well known for charity work. I’m not saying she didn’t do it but she’s able to go to Nigeria on a quasi-tour like this because she married Harry not because she was in Suits. It’s just obtuse to say otherwise

The myself/yourself/himself really gets on my wick.

If anyone watched series 2 of The Traitors UK lately your know what I mean.
”Unfortunately Steven, myself thinks yourself is the traitor” 🙄🙄

Should people only be saying nice things? Their behaviour is abhorrent IMO and it’s fine to discuss it especially when they apparently take it upon themselves to ignore intense bullying and misinformation around the UK and Brits, and especially their sick sister in law

Totally agree

Diana WAS a loose cannon but she also did a lot of meaningful work that had a hugely positive impact.

I can say the former for H&M but I’m afraid I can’t say the latter. Telling people living in abject poverty in a dangerous country “It’s ok to not be OK” is not the same as what Diana did. Diana did not make her work about herself.

https://nypost.com/2024/05/11/us-news/critics-bash-meghan-markles-dress-choice-as-obvious-royal-snub/

Not to mention playing the UK national anthem. Why the British national anthem but not the American, given Meghan is American and Harry is resident there now...? Could it be their connection with the 'toxic' RF?

Very good point @OneHeartySnail . The US national anthem would have been much more appropriate.

I'm not rewriting history. But say her only.achievement is marrying a rich guy is wrong.

I watched Suits and I know lots of people who did at the time. It may not of been huge here but it was in other countries and that is why it ran for long, if the viewing figures were dire it wouldn't grt renewed for another season.

And who cares if she doesn't own a property or a car? In many other countries renting and leasing is the way if life and ownership isn't. You aay it's not a criticism of her yet you bring it up to judge her.

Is she going to move to Nigeria - a Nut producing country, they would instantly feel at home

I was reaponding to a poster who said her achievement is just marrying a rich guy. It wasn't about her current status. If someone asked you about your achievements you woukd look across your whole life not just your current status.

I'm not rewriting history. But say her only.achievement is marrying a rich guy is wrong.

Two rich guys, let’s not forget film producer husband number one Trevor, plus a rich Daddy.

The thing is like it or not, Meghan and other women who marry into the RF have the huge platform they do because of who they have married. To say otherwise is disingenuous.

Some adapt well. I’d say Kate has.

Some make mistakes and then adapt. Sophie for one. Though it took years.

Some make lots of mistakes and can’t adapt. Sarah F.

Some can’t take adapt and get out. Meghan.

It is obvious neither of them care for the US in the least. I hope they decide to move to Nigeria. Cheaper for them, and easier for the US and the UK. She can become the Martha Stewart of Nigeria.