Nigeria 2

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To continue the discussion.

I thought the comparison with the Duke snd Duchess of Windsor (last post on the previous thread) was interesting.

A visit to a dodgy regime, (Nazi Germany) because they would call Wallis HRH and make it a quasi-royal tour.

Of course, at that point Nazi Germany had a dodgy human rights record, but it was before the horrors of the Holocaust.

Let's face it, with the security and human rights issues there is no way the IG could happen in Nigeria. So that is sn excuse.

Sussex Squad members in matching outfits greeting Harry and Meghan.

'My country' LOL, what a publicity stunt.

So she has anointed herself a role model for Nigerians, is that the ultimate Nigerian scam? .

Another own goal, the ridicule before this trip didn't even come close to how it actually played out. Performing, lying, grifters on tour.

Absolutely !

'I want to start by saying thank you very much for just how gracious you've all been in welcoming my husband and I to this country... my country.'
How baseless, ignorant and presumptuous. Some of her ancestors might have been from this African region but wasn't modern Nigeria founded by Britain in 1914 based on British colonialisation in the previous century? So her ancestors were not from Nigeria as it didn't exist when they left (were made to leave) the region. She really has not diplomatic tact and doesn't display any kind of historical and cultural awareness here. Her and their self presentation comes across as deeply colonial and culturally insensitive.

'I am just flattered and honored and inspired. It has been a whirlwind 24 hours since we arrived, and I very quickly got the memo that I need to wear more colour, so I can fit in with all of you and your incredible fashion.'
This is also tone deaf, how come she didn't do her homework beforehand? Or rather, what homework was needed, seeing that Nigeria is allegedly her country and why is she admitting to not having a clue about dress code and culture? Lots of contradictions. It's really not that hard to not come across as fake, presumptuous and pretentious. 😐

It’s quite well known, very really, that certain communities in. Iberia where a lot of colour. Not all by any stretch.

Who gave her the 'memo' ? Shes been reading the sm posts .

I suppose it does show why real royal tours need to be meticulously planned and speeches gone over with a fine toothed comb (and even then there can be curve balls like what the Jamaican PM said to W&K).

they aren’t on state business and talk about cooperation between two countries, they can’t speak about controversial subjects such as poverty, the environment, FGM, gay rights, persecution of Christians. They have a tendency to talk about themselves or everything with reference to themselves anyway. So I guess that leaves them with vacuous inspirational words and “its ok to not be ok”

She has achieved more than just marrying someone rich! She was an actress on a really successful show and made significant money over the 7-8years it was created. She was about 30yrs old when she started on Suits. I csnt speak to what other jobs she had to sustain herself before then but she she was working pretty much all her 30s. Plenty of people don't make it on screen.

She then married a wealthy guy.

You know same could be said about quite a few mumsnetters where you occasionally see them comment their husbands earn significant money £200k+ or come from wealth etc. and even though they had jobs themselces have now decided to be stay at home mums. Would you say the same about them? That they haven't achieved anything other than marry wealthy men...that their career/job before isn't any type of achievement 🤨

How many people had heard of Meghan before Harry ? Suits was not a big thing in the U.K. . We are repeatedly told she was wealthy in her own right ; well I am sure she had more money than me but she didn’t own property , she leased a car yet still had an expensive lifestyle . That’s not a criticism of her. She certainly seemed to work hard at becoming famous but let’s not totally rewrite history.

Well said LumiB

Her current status and the platforms she is afforded are purely based on her marriage. Her pre Harry career isn’t what she is selling as her “brand”. I do agree that her acting career was much better than most acting wannabes ever achieve, but she doesn’t talk about any of that in her present incarnation.

It’s also somewhat different in that with her marriage came a title and the “job” of being that title as well as the kudos, status, deference and wealth that comes with it. If one of us marries a rich lawyer, that marriage may propel us into a big house and some social status based on wealth. It does not propel us into being experts in law ourselves and we won’t be given an audience in court as a lawyer because our husband is one. Meghan’s marriage has propelled her into fora she has no expertise in because of her “job” as duchess, not because of her personal achievements. And yes, it’s no different to anyone else marrying into the RF, but then working RF have to be careful about what they are holding themselves out to be experts in, unlike these royals gone rogue.

how gracious you've all been in welcoming my husband and I

Yes, I'm a pedant but it does jar for me, especially since she went to a good school.
Although, anybody impersonating the late queen almost invariably started with "My husband and I" and perhaps people who didn't get how it worked assumed that was the "upper class" version of "My husband and me" (see also overuse of "One" in pseudo-posh speech).
It's just that she would go on to use it correctly.

I don't understand the lack of colour. Wasn't it a whole big deal in their documentary that she was made to wear drab colours when in the royal family and then burst into her own colourful dress wearing self once she found her freedom?

'I want to start by saying thank you very much for just how gracious you've all been in welcoming my husband and I to this country... my country.'

Oh, dear God!

To translate from Meghanese:

"I'm so indescribably wonderful and important that this is surely the greatest compliment I can offer your country: that it is MY country!"

Don't know where to start with this. It's so tone-deaf and insensitive, so off-the-scale conceited and self-aggrandising and basically....to use the scientific terminology, absolute bollocks!

Is she going to move to Nigeria?

I’m really disappointed they’ve never denounced the Sussex Swuad due to their online bullying and behaviour of Kate and anyone who doesn’t agree with them. Harry and Meghan are bullies by proxy IMO

The late Queen knew her subjects from her objects. It's not difficult. I'm sorry to say I have heard Kate say 'William and I' when it should have been 'William and me'. I heard William say something a little while ago which I was pleased to hear was correct. When Harry came on TV to tell us that Archie had been born he started fine but descended into 'Meghan and myself had a son....'. I shouted at the telly, "NO, Harry, Meghan and I, in this case." I wrote to him about it.
No, I don't want to be over in pedants' corner for this one.
In the Oprah interview they said that Archie says, "Drive safe." A British journalist commented on it.

Anyone want to bet she will never set foot in “my country” again?

It's the intensity that's boring. God sakes

It's a discussion board, not X. And reading posts isn't compulsory if you find them boring.

Why do you keep personally attacking me on posts over different threads, @Inkanta , not with anything of substance but with emojis and inanities? You seem over invested in things you claim to be not interested in.

No. I've said the intensity is boring.

Her current status and the platforms she is afforded are purely based on her marriage

I disagree, as prior to marrying Harry she:

~worked with the youth empowerment nonprofit One Young World.

~worked for the UN’s Women’s Political Participation and Leadership initiative a for World Vision.

UN's Women’s Political Participation and Leadership

World Vision (About which she wrote an article for Time in 2017.)

I’m fairly neutral about M&H and don’t agree with everything they have done but I do think that’s a fairly impressive set of achievements when you are a full time actress and I bet it’s more than most keyboard warriors on here manage to achieve alongside their ft jobs!

Also, she is evidently trying to focus on their charity work in Nigeria, while all the news media reports and commentary on sm is about her clothes and her body which is misogynistic in the extreme.

All of these nasty threads about one woman who is not from a British culture, who was unhappy living in a different country to her own, and found a royal role restrictive, is just ridiculous.

I lived abroad for many years and came across lots of incidences where cross cultural marriages struggled and you can’t get more cross cultural than British RF v Californian actress, and that’s leaving out the race issue which I am certain was an important factor.

People may not like her but at least the things she has achieved were done as a result of her own energy and graft and not because she was born in to money and influence.

I just feel a bit sad seeing all of this coverage, the media here in the UK are throwing much shade but it appears that Harry is getting the half in half out arrangement that he wanted to get. This is a Royal tour, whatever it is called - he is the son of the King. She parades her Duchess title like a dog with a sore paw yet hates everything about the establishment and what is expected of her....

I'm sorry Charles, but you should have dealt with this at the time and I'm starting to feel that these two are now loose cannons that are going to taint his Monarchy. I think they've seen an opportunity with Kate out of action for the considerable future and grabbed it. No wonder Charles refused to see him and his Netflix cameras.

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The late Queen knew her subjects from her objects. It's not difficult.

Quite.
You're also right about the use of "myself" inappropriately. It's everywhere and, again, I think people feel it sounds more, rather than less, educated.

The intensity of what?