american riviera orchard - what was that all about then?

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It seems to have gone the same way as their Sussex Royal site. I don't know much about social media or PR, but this all seems pretty odd and ineffectual.

He was not her grandchild, but her great grandchild. One of many. I don't understand why Harry would have come in for special generosity, ahead of Zara Phillips or Arthur Chatto and the others. As the future king's son he was already going to be very well provided for.

Of course the Queen Mother married a spare... she may have had extra affection for Harry as a result.

The irony being that her spare became King because the actual King wanted to marry - an American divorcee!

I'm not sure about Cosmo as a source for accurate information, but here goes:

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/celebs/a30446498/prince-harry-net-worth/#

Given that Cosmo thinks that Harry would become Regent in the event of George becoming king as a minor, I'm not sure I'd place too much faith in what they have to say.

No -definitely the QM I was thinking of, but you are right, I should have said Great-grandchild.

H will presumably come in for something from the late Queen, but she wasn't stupid so I would hope it's tied up in such a way that he can't burn through the capital living a celebrity lifestyle and using the law courts to work off his grievances.

I should think they got the Netflix etc deals initially to produce content on the RF. But now they've done it, there'll be no more, so no-one has any further use for them.

Plus the fact that Oprah, supposedly a shrewd businesswoman, allowed herself to be dazzled and used by them. Can't have done her reputation as an interviewer any good, and everyone else will have learned from it.

Thank you @JJathome and @shenandoahvalley for such considered and interesting posts, what a great thread.

It is a great thread. We have been able to express opinions and discuss things
reasonably.

So my question is - where are the Sussex Squad? Why aren't they all over this thread, as they usually are? (How) has the tide turned?

Was it the undefendable big launch of something that clearly wasn't ready in any way,, but just had to be done on the night of the Diana Awards?

Didn't H also have an inheritance from Diana?

I also think it's unlikely that Charles would pay out big money in the event of divorce. Why would he?

In return for his grandchildren spending time in the UK, so they can get to know their family and heritage?

But M would need to be careful. If she waited too long, she might find herself having to deal with William, which would be a very different proposition.

Yes, a Rupert Murdoch or Charles Saatchi type. I can see that working.

The trouble with her marrying a rich and powerful man is they want to call all the shots. She likes to be in the driving seat at all times.

I give it an hour before this post is reported and taken down.

Harry can't blame the institution. He knows what lies are. So does Meghan. The pair of them lied to turn themselves into victims. The worst lies were the accusations of racism. No excuse.

@IcedPurple - good point!! Perhaps that's why she's still with PH now lol 😂

I don’t think Charles or William would want them back in the country now. They are a massive liability. The whole security issue is bound to come up again too.

That is going to be an issue for them both. Charles obviously loves his son regardless of his behaviour so whilst he is still alive, there is always going to be an opportunity to squeeze a bit more out of him and get a certain amount of leeway in some situations.

The day he dies, is the day all that ends. I don’t see their past behaviour as ever being forgivable by William, and I wouldn’t blame him.

To have an ongoing rivalry with your brother is one thing, but to extend that rivalry by attacking his wife us inexcusable

Agreed.

🤣🤣🤣

It was Jan 2023 when our own esteemed JustineMN told the Telegraph, 'Our users are deranged when it comes to Meghan'.

With hindsight, I now suspect that she didn't necessarily mean M's critiquers.

I don't think most of the country want them back either TBH! There would be an uproar if those two tried to come back into the fold of the working royals

Megan is a very wealthy woman independently. I’m,surprised anyone would think she had no real,money of her own. She was worth a few million when she married him and would be entitled to half their joint assets that they earned together . In my book that’s very real money indeed. Megan could never work again and live a life of utter luxury if she chose.

instead they need a massive income stream to pay all their bills due to the life they choose, security, employees. Taxes, airfare,legal fees , they must be blowing through millions a year and have very little coming in, I’m not sure they have properly earned since Harry’s book. Prob paid to turn up at the Marley or maybe went offf their own bat to see if they could get time with rhe Nickelodeon president.

In fairness the institution aren't blameless either, but it's true Harry can't keep blaming others for everything with any credibility - though I wouldn't expect that to stop him

With the racism claims I've never seen anyone try to suggest none existed since that would clearly be ridiculous, but IMO the couple certainly haven't helped themselves here with the no-name accusations, the collaboration with the odious Scobie, the later retractions and all the rest

I mentioned earlier Harry's background of being surrounded with yes men and enablers, and if you add to that what seems an almost total lack of judgement, insight or even basic wit it may make negotiating the situation they've created very, very difficult

They must FEEL they are calling all the shots....
That's good enough.

If you're going to say racism, if you're going to (or through a friend) name names then you'd better have sound evidence and not get all vague and general and then backtrack.