Why don't the Sussex haters be more like Kate

[Thegrassneedsmowing]

She's admired for her grace, strength and stoicism. Yet her supporters spew bile over H&M, Obie Scobie (or whatever he's called) and their other high profile supporters.

I don't like the way H&M have behaved towards the RF but now they're living thousands of miles away, not costing the British taxpayer a bean ... I just don't care what they do.

But the hate they inspire on this forum (couldn't sleep last night so was reading a couple of threads) is unhinged.

Why not keep it classy like Kate? Ignore em and put all that misplaced energy into living your best life (as they say)?

[SpringSprungALeak]

@Thegrassneedsmowing and yet you though another goady thread would help??

[pelargoniums]

Oh FFS…

[Thegrassneedsmowing]

It's not in the least bit goady unless you're looking to be goaded. It's a genuine question.

I was really moved by Kate's video. Her grace, her humility and her strength. So I wonder why her supporters don't try to emulate her conduct rather than frothing about the Sussexes. It's disconcerting how much time and effort people put into loathing two strangers.

[KarstRegion]

No one has any idea whether she’s graceful, strong or stoical, She’s a nicely-dressed woman who never says anything apart from carefully-vetted speeches. The Sussexes are talkers. Blurters, even. Autobiography writers, talk show confessionalists, providers of far more material in the public domain, enabled by their positions as spare slipping down the list of those in line to the throne and someone who married in from a more oversharing, self-promoting culture and job.

Which style onlookers prefer is probably a matter of taste.

[Thegrassneedsmowing]

I accept your remarks about the Sussexes but why not ignore them? The bile that's spewed on here is unedifying.

And Kate does come across as dignified, compassionate and full of inner strength.

So, like I said, why not be more like Kate?

[Tlolljs]

Pot and kettle

[Thegrassneedsmowing]

@Tlolljs

Pot and kettle

Helpful!

[CoffeeCantata]

It all reminds me of a Chinese proverb someone told me: If you stand by the river long enough, the bodies of all your enemies will eventually float by.

I think this can (most of the time) be good advice. Do the right thing, hold back from lashing out, be stoic and patient and those who've wronged you will trip themselves up, come to regret their behaviour or be shown up for what they are.

That's what has happened/will happen with H & M. They had their sensational moment in the sun, but since then, sympathy for them has declined since so much of what they moaned about has been discredited. The RF, on the other hand, and particularly their main target, Catherine, has behaved with grace and dignity and gained respect because of it.

Play the long game - the RF understand this.

[Nono22972]

Why don't the Wales haters show some grace and stop mocking and making crazy conspiracy theorists about a sick woman?

It's funny how so many always call out royalist/Kate fans/Sussex haters but the other side can be nasty, toxic,... and never get called out

[GoonieGang]

To be fair it’s again down to media that fuels hate on both sides.
I personally think they are still costing us money with the court case around security.

[FrancisSeaton]

What a stupid thread

[Ratsoffasinkingsauage]

I actually mostly agree with the OP. This whole social media squad nonsense has to stop.

H&M has been throughly hoisted by their own petard. There is really no point roasting them anymore because they are essentially naked in front of the whole world. I do feel a bit sorry for them in some sense and think it would be better to let them fade into social oblivion. They’re doing a great job of that on their own with no help from online commentators.

[Mylovelygreendress]

@FrancisSeaton

What a stupid thread

What an insightful comment !

[eise]

In my perspective, the prospective monarch exhibits a concerning deficiency in leadership. Failing to resolve familial conflicts or reconcile with a sibling casts doubt on one's capacity to govern effectively. It was imprudent for the establishment Kate and William to create turmoil over Harry's decision to marry Meghan and to exert excessive control over their nuptials.

Currently, with the Royal Family in dire need of Harry's support, his absence is palpable, and the likelihood of his return appears minimal. Rectifying the situation would not have required Herculean effort.

Regarding Kate, it seems she lacked the ability to positively influence William as a wife in these family matters. She could have guided William to a more diplomatic approach from the outset and shown greater openness/ welcome towards her sister in-law. However, the perception that her public utterances are meticulously scripted leaves much to speculation regarding her authentic sentiments. One would assume that, even in the face of grave adversity, familial unity would prevail.

So, in response to the original post, no, I don't perceive her grace as others do, reflecting a broader issue within the 'Katesquad' and the bullying thrown at M+H on these threads.

Should I be in Kate and William's position, considering life's unpredictability, I would seek to ameliorate these issues. It would be heartening to witness a sincere reunion. Harry's physical relocation to England is not a prerequisite for such harmony. A more unified front could enhance public perception of William and Kate, especially in anticipation of his ascension to the throne. His likability among the populace is paramount.

[IsoldeWagner]

"the royal family is in dire need of Harry's support"
😂
Come on now. The bloke complained in Spare about being a working royal and how tiring it was. I'm going to couch this nicely: I don't think Harry is really cut out for a responsible public service role.

[Wellieswithsocks]

A more unified front could enhance public perception of William and Kate, especially in anticipation of his ascension to the throne. His likability among the populace is paramount.

Tbh neither Kate nor William need any ‘enhancing’ of their public perception- both are very popular- and I think any reconciliation which involved Harry/Meghan resuming prominent roles as royals in the U.K. would prove very unpopular and damaging to the RF. I get the impression that the public has no appetite to see H and M return to the fold. If you follow the comments on online articles, this is invariably the response when the potential for Harry to return is mooted. The most H and M can probably hope for is a polite but distant relationship.

[IsoldeWagner]

You're right, @Wellieswithsocks , I think trust is a huge factor here, and once people sell stories invading the privacy of their family (for money) and get caught out in, shall we say "inconsistencies", their reliability is very questionable.
Not needed, not wanted.

[themessygarden]

That long post up above is a load of codswallop, 99.99% of it is meaningless and completely out of touch with reality.

[eise]

You are completely out of touch with reality. If the RF wants to carry on they need a more united front. Harry doesn't need to return to the UK for that to happen.

[IsoldeWagner]

I think it's for the best if Harry doesn't return to the UK. A united front is worthless if it's just a "front". The ball is in Harry's court, if he wants to improve relationships, that's great, but he's got to win back some trust and respect.

[eise]

I think the ball in is K+W's court. They are the one's in need to carry on with the RF performance for the public. If they can doctor pictures, I am sure they can do the same with relationships for the sake of the monarchy

[IsoldeWagner]

That makes no sense whatsoever.
Using Photoshop is not the equivalent of having the skills of an advanced counsellor or psychologist to deal with Harry and his particular issues.

[Wellieswithsocks]

@eise

I think the ball in is K+W's court. They are the one's in need to carry on with the RF performance for the public. If they can doctor pictures, I am sure they can do the same with relationships for the sake of the monarchy

The only people who would benefit from that would be H & M. Kate and William would likely lose the respect of the public if they welcomed them back after the way they’ve behaved. It would make them look weak and as though they don’t have any normal healthy boundaries.

[pelargoniums]

@eise

I think the ball in is K+W's court. They are the one's in need to carry on with the RF performance for the public. If they can doctor pictures, I am sure they can do the same with relationships for the sake of the monarchy

Or their focus might be elsewhere right now.

[Wellieswithsocks]

@pelargoniums

Or their focus might be elsewhere right now.

Yes, quite!