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King Charles so proud of Princess Catherine

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AliceOlive · 23/03/2024 20:34

King Charles support of his daughter(in law) is so very touching.

Please keep the comments positive and on topic. We have all had enough vitriol for weeks now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-68641142

King Charles is 'so proud' of 'beloved' Kate after cancer news, says palace - BBC News

King Charles, who himself is being treated for cancer, says he is "so proud" of his "beloved" daughter-in-law's courage.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-68641142

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pilates · 27/03/2024 06:42

Thanks goldierocks - confirmed what I thought. A close relationship and growing stronger.

FluffyFanny · 27/03/2024 08:06

skygradient · 26/03/2024 19:39

I don't actively wish her ill but find it hard to feel sympathy for Kate. In a country with a crumbling NHS system, she'll have access to the very best treatment, for a condition that is very common in women her age.

A family member passed away very recently from cancer. While I'm grateful for the healthcare system, it's hard not to link her pain, suffering and death to the endless gaps, incompetencies and delays in treatment.

While we're on the topic of venerating Kate, my family member – like many others – genuinely did more with her life and sacrificed more for others than Kate ever has. (Of course though I believe everyone has an equal right to good health!)

I know it's not a race to the bottom, but the very existence of a monarchy, the class system, the Tories, etc lends to the idea that some deserve better than others. Some get to live and some don't, etc.

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It's hard when you are facing serious illness and it seems the NHS is full of delays. However, private healthcare does not possess better or different treatments for cancer than the NHS. I myself have had cancer treatment and even though I had private heal care cover it didn't offer anything different so I opted to remain in NHS care. Cancer kills rich people too.

PS. I wouldn't say abdominal cancer is 'very common' in women of 42. I was 42 when I was diagnosed with breast cancer and it was I considered 'young' to get the disease as cancer is much more common in older women.

Teddleshon · 27/03/2024 08:07

Agree that the delays in private healthcare can be longer - this has been our experience.

RedRosesPinkLilies · 27/03/2024 08:32

Cancer kills at all ages. I meet with a large group of women - all with different cancers and at different stages. I’m 55 and first in my own friendship group to get cancer - all my friends are shocked etc. But another woman in her 30s has already lost a friend to cancer and has another friend just being diagnosed
There is no rhyme or reason.

I don’t think Kate is especially going to get better treatment at this point. What she will have benefited from is being taken seriously right at the beginning of her illness.

People are diagnosed late because of inherent delays in the system at the beginning. It’s hard to get GP appointments these days, the patient is on the younger side and doesn’t fit the algorithm for referral etc

Kate won’t have had any of that.

I think it is sweet that Charles commented- he didn’t need to do that and it must have given her a boost in the midst of all the other crap.

MaturingCheeseball · 27/03/2024 09:14

Nice one @skygradient . I should think most of us have lost family members, including to cancer. My df (young), dm and dsis (young) died of cancer, and my dn is undergoing life-prolonging chemotherapy. And you can’t feel sympathy for a mother of three young children - shameful Angry

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/03/2024 09:55

MaturingCheeseball · 27/03/2024 09:14

Nice one @skygradient . I should think most of us have lost family members, including to cancer. My df (young), dm and dsis (young) died of cancer, and my dn is undergoing life-prolonging chemotherapy. And you can’t feel sympathy for a mother of three young children - shameful Angry

There are people I'd cheerfully consign to perdition but if they said they had cancer they'd have my sympathy and any help I could give because cancer is a bastard. That someone can't feel sympathy for a woman who has it says rather a lot about that someone, and not in a good way.

I've said before that I have a cancer and my NHS treatment - finding the issue, diagnosis, follow up treatment - has been exemplary. I can't see how private would have been any better.

Teddleshon · 27/03/2024 10:01

Reminds me of the horrible comments Jack Monroe made about David Cameron’s severely disabled child. It’s a very ugly sentiment.

MaturingCheeseball · 27/03/2024 10:24

💐 Mrs Danvers (although I know flowers aren’t always a good gift; having to find a vase and wotnot…)

Gosh, yes, those comments about David Cameron’s child. There really are some people with twisted ugly thoughts. Which they seem pleased to voice.

musthorse · 27/03/2024 10:30

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13235499/amp/under-50s-cancer-cases-surge-kate-middleton-diagnosis-study.html

I think we were discussing before about cancer in increasingly younger age groups. Sorry it's the Mail. I guess I could find elsewhere if I could be arsed.

AliceOlive · 27/03/2024 10:44

I posted this before but really love it.

I despise sympathy so always shudder when someone says they don’t have any for someone. It’s like they think their own feeling about someone else’s situation are helpful.

I remember hearing someone tell their little children how tough their own cousins had it. How much better off they were. It was not nice! It was a sympathy gloat.

Brené Brown on Empathy vs Sympathy

What is the best way to ease someone's pain and suffering? In this beautifully animated RSA Short, Dr Brené Brown reminds us that we can only create a genuin...

https://youtu.be/KZBTYViDPlQ?si=vZMwLlF_ArO6vsPQ

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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 27/03/2024 10:49

MaturingCheeseball · 27/03/2024 10:24

💐 Mrs Danvers (although I know flowers aren’t always a good gift; having to find a vase and wotnot…)

Gosh, yes, those comments about David Cameron’s child. There really are some people with twisted ugly thoughts. Which they seem pleased to voice.

I love flowers. I currently have two vases of narcissus and will be buying daffs as long as they are in the shops (not much longer, sadly) and I have any number of vases (altho finding them does involve peering into a kitchen cupboard and feeling around), so thank you for the bouquet.

Olderthanthetrees · 27/03/2024 11:14

I'm sorry but the sycophancy on this thread is something to behold!

Do people actually feel this way about people they have never met?

Of course I have every sympathy for a woman with young children going through cancer treatment as every decent person would. And of course I hope the PoW recovers fully, speedily and well. I wish her entire family well too.

However, I cannot stand when members of the RF garner praise for doing something most ordinary people would do any day of the week, such as walk down the hospital corridor to see their family member, or put their hand on the back of their wife to guide her down a corridor, or pull out a chair for someone. What is so noteworthy about it? And yet there are sm threads and newspaper articles devoted to these non-events.

Seriously, do we not have more pressing things to think about? It makes me wonder if the population of the UK is far too easily distracted by matters royal instead of noticing what is happening in their immediate area. Of course it is far probably far more pleasant to think about one than the other!

Perhaps we could all express equal sympathy for those patients struggling to access cancer treatment within the NHS system like an elderly relative of mine who has, and still is, encountering delays, cancellation of operations, poor communication, having to leave hospital too early once they have had their operation, delays in availability of drugs and being passed from A&E to ward to GP and back again when things go wrong. I have a great deal of sympathy for her and all of her fellow patients in Herefordshire who find themselves in similar situations too.

musthorse · 27/03/2024 11:20

@Olderthanthetrees yes this has been discussed already. However it doesn't stop some people having empathy for others regardless of who they are.

Olderthanthetrees · 27/03/2024 11:30

musthorse · 27/03/2024 11:20

@Olderthanthetrees yes this has been discussed already. However it doesn't stop some people having empathy for others regardless of who they are.

Well if that's is the case then I am happy to hear it! I do think the RF provide a very good distraction away from more important things though.

CoffeeCantata · 27/03/2024 11:40

Olderthanthetrees · Today 11:14
I'm sorry but the sycophancy on this thread is something to behold!

Do people actually feel this way about people they have never met?

Er...yes, of course they do. Do you only feel sympathy for those you've met? If so - how very, very odd!

There are lots of public figures who've won our admiration, affection, interest, sympathy etc. I feel a connection to many of these people even though I've never met them and I take an interest in their lives.

The PoW has won lots of admiration for her dignified conduct in the face of difficulties and - let's not beat about the bush: bullying campaigns amounting to defamation. She's also won the affection and sympathy of many of us too for reasons already described in this thread.

I hope this will help you to understand!

Teddleshon · 27/03/2024 11:41

@Olderthanthetrees Why does it bother you if people express empathy / admiration for members of the Royal Family? You may feel differently and that’s entirely your right too.

AliceOlive · 27/03/2024 11:45

I genuinely have a great deal of awe for most people. Life is a kick both good and bad.

But if I started a thread about my next door neighbor and how much I admire her that would be pretty weird.

These are normal people having an extraordinary experience alongside one to which many of us can relate. Pretty common topic.

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musthorse · 27/03/2024 11:48

@areyoutheregod this is the RF board so of course it is them bring talked about. It doesn't preclude other interests / they are just elsewhere.

CoffeeCantata · 27/03/2024 11:50

Do people actually feel this way about people they have never met?

And for what it's worth, I've been feeling desperately sad about those poor people who died in the bridge disaster yesterday, and I've never met them either.

And all the suffering people we hear about in the news.

areyoutheregod · 27/03/2024 12:23

musthorse · 27/03/2024 11:48

@areyoutheregod this is the RF board so of course it is them bring talked about. It doesn't preclude other interests / they are just elsewhere.

what? I haven't commented here since early yesterday.. what are you talking about?

StrawberryJellyBelly · 27/03/2024 12:48

Do people actually feel this way about people they have never met?

Yes. I think it’s stranger not to care about other people.

upinaballoon · 27/03/2024 13:07

Is it Kevin Sinfield who has MND and is it Rob Burrows who has been doing the running and raising of money and awareness? I don't know them, only in as much as I have seen them on TV, but I can feel feelings about them and be pleased and sad about different aspects of the story. So will umpteen other people. It's not strange. Nor is it strange to have feelings about Kate's situation, even though I've never met her.

Hughs · 27/03/2024 13:11

Is it Kevin Sinfield who has MND and is it Rob Burrows who has been doing the running and raising of money and awareness?

Other way around @upinaballoon!

Salemforcuddles · 27/03/2024 13:26

Olderthanthetrees · 27/03/2024 11:14

I'm sorry but the sycophancy on this thread is something to behold!

Do people actually feel this way about people they have never met?

Of course I have every sympathy for a woman with young children going through cancer treatment as every decent person would. And of course I hope the PoW recovers fully, speedily and well. I wish her entire family well too.

However, I cannot stand when members of the RF garner praise for doing something most ordinary people would do any day of the week, such as walk down the hospital corridor to see their family member, or put their hand on the back of their wife to guide her down a corridor, or pull out a chair for someone. What is so noteworthy about it? And yet there are sm threads and newspaper articles devoted to these non-events.

Seriously, do we not have more pressing things to think about? It makes me wonder if the population of the UK is far too easily distracted by matters royal instead of noticing what is happening in their immediate area. Of course it is far probably far more pleasant to think about one than the other!

Perhaps we could all express equal sympathy for those patients struggling to access cancer treatment within the NHS system like an elderly relative of mine who has, and still is, encountering delays, cancellation of operations, poor communication, having to leave hospital too early once they have had their operation, delays in availability of drugs and being passed from A&E to ward to GP and back again when things go wrong. I have a great deal of sympathy for her and all of her fellow patients in Herefordshire who find themselves in similar situations too.

Yes, as a Scot and a keen rugby fan I was upset by Doddie Weirs diagnosis, battle and subsequent death

Did I know him? No but I had compassion for him and his family, it would be a cold world it we only felt sympathy for people that we knew, isn't that how charities work?