King Charles so proud of Princess Catherine

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King Charles support of his daughter(in law) is so very touching.

Please keep the comments positive and on topic. We have all had enough vitriol for weeks now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-68641142

I'm sure people will say "Catherine doesn't read MN, it doesn't matter" - but the point is when someone is going through such an awful time, contributing to online bitchiness is a shitty thing to do. Negativity spreads, comment by comment. That's the power of social media.

Absolutely. The claim that Catherine doesn’t read mumsnet is trotted out regularly by posters who like to say disparaging things about Catherine, they think it gives them free reign to spout whatever vitriol they like because apparently she doesn’t read it. If there is one website which would appeal to Kate it would probably be this one. As a mother of 3 young children would it really be a stretch to think she may read, or if rumour is true, actually have an account here, after all it’s a site by parents for parents, plus her work regarding early years could lead her here. Posters saying she doesn’t read mumsnet does not mean you can say horrible things about Catherine, she may well do, you have absolutely no idea, it is not a get out of jail free card.

Plus does it really matter whether she might read it or not - just try not to be the kind of person who bitches about a young woman with small children and cancer.

Or just try not to be the kind of person who bitches about another woman full stop whether its celebrities, other famous women, your friends, family, colleagues and so on. Then people can sit on their moral high ground and say shame on others 😆 otherwise it's hypocritical really.

Absolutely @Spectre8

But for those who find that difficult, perhaps laying off a woman who has just had to tell her three primary aged children that she has cancer would be a good place to start.

That sounds marvellous in principle, but we both know that's not realistic. Also, what one person considers bitching and gossip, another person will simply see as discussion and debate.

I don't really follow much entertainment news, but I think if you're in the public eye then you have to accept that gossip and speculation is going to be inevitable.

I also believe in freedom of speech, even when it doesn't agree with my opinion.

For example, I'm well aware you're an avid Sussex supporter and have voiced a dislike for Catherine and the Royal Family previously. And that's fine. It's entirely your right to do so, no matter how vehemently I might disagree with your interpretation. I think it would be really wrong to suggest that you can't share your opinions in a suitable space. I would always champion your right to be able to discuss, debate, and criticise the royal family however you see fit.

However, my objection to unpleasantness on this thread is twofold.

Firstly, the OP explicitly asked for this to be a thread about positivity. There has been similar requests on threads about Meghan which you have been in support of. I don't think it's unreasonable to ask people to stick to the subject on any thread - that includes threads about Meghan. Again, regardless of whether I agree with the OP or not, it's a reasonable request at any time - but particularly at the moment for Catherine given her circumstances. Which brings me onto the next objection.

A woman with a young family has just announced that she's been diagnosed with cancer. I think that continuing to pile into her publicly shows a real unpleasantness. People are really affected by this, not just because of Catherine, but because cancer has blighted many lives, in many ways. Right now, when her cancer has just been announced, can you really not refrain from being nasty? Especially when it's totally unrelated to the actual thread. There's absolutely no need to visit a thread that is asking for positivity about Catherine, knowing that you don't particularly like the woman, just to add spiteful comments.

Surely at some point a line is drawn where you think, yeah, maybe now isn't the time for this? Because I think that time is right now, on this thread.

I don't think it's hypocritical to recognise when online criticism steps over a line. I don't think it's hypocritical to recognise that you don't always need to share your opinion when clearly your opinions aren't in keeping with the spirit of the thread.

It's like joining a thread about lemon cake recipes just to keep posting comments about how much you don't like lemon cake.

If you really are busting with the need to rip into Catherine and can't refrain from being critical, just this once, then go and put up your own thread about her.

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Well said

There has never been a thread on mumsnet about Meghan that has been allowed to be positive. It has been tried on many occasions. The threads are always ambushed and if questioned why the thread can’t be positive, there were cry’s of echo chamber.
just wanted to say that as history is being re written a bit.
i personally wish Catherine the princess of wales well

Well said @SecretSoul

I suppose I could ask Becky to post a message. Or maybe someone else could do it for me.

Why does Meghan even need to be mentioned?

Do you really think that it were Meghan in this situation then people would continue to slag her off and say things about how her father or half sister could look after her children? Surely you must see that?

Who said I'm an avid Sussex supporter? I don't do tram Sussex or team kate. As a republican I'm critical of the royal family in general.

I typically comment on the hypocrisy and dihblenstandaeda applied to two sets of royal family members

The only comment I've made about kate is whilst she has worn nice dresses overall I fond her style bland

I've equally said things I haven't liked about what Meghan has worn. I don't say more about meghan cos alot of stuff talked about is stuff that's happened a while ago an dit doesn't interest me to continue to continue lying go on about it. I also donf say more now they are non royals and making their own way in the world in terms of financing themselves. So i dont feel the need to constantly comment on everything they do.

I've criticised the KP PR and I've definitely said a few times we should get rid of the rf cos I don't see the value of them or their institution.

This doesn't make me an avid supporter of one or the other.

So dont label me as something I'm not thanks.

We simply cannot ignore Meghan.

@SecretSoul 👏👏
This thread is nothing to do with Meghan, it's supposed to be positive about the PoW and Charles. So maybe do that or go elsewhere. Everyone knows where to look if they want to see you slagging them off or sticking up for Meghan and Harry, so don't worry about that.

I've equally said things I haven't liked about what Meghan has worn.

Bless you. I’ve seen what happens when people do that here. What names did you get called?

In some of the photos you can see her touching her tummy. I didn't think much of it at the time, but now we know why

she’s done it for quite a long time.

I'm very happy to apologise if I'm wrong. So genuinely, I'm sorry if that's not the case.

My opinion was formed as all I've ever seen from you is pro-Meghan comments set against your other comments which are anti-Royal Family, and anti-Catherine. Like here for example, not really a need to call Catherine bland and boring is there? It's a baseless accusation that the Sussex Squad often chuck around and it's unrelated to the subject of this thread...hence my assumption.

But as I say, if that's not the case, then I sincerely apologise.

I stand by everything else I said though. Now isn't the time to hijack a thread that's trying to share some positivity about a woman diagnosed with cancer.

You admit you don't like the Royal Family, so maybe a thread asking for positivity about members of the Royal Family isn't the thread for you to join.

Well you are wrong, I don't subscribe this what I feel is juvenile bs of team x or team y. I dont feel the need to keep criticising someone who has left the country and we arent paying for anymore. If she is starting a new business good for her why wouldnt i champion another woman trying to build a business i would do it of anyone. As a republican ill continue to criticse the rf the ones who are here representing us and paying for.

Also I didn't call Kate bland boring I was remaining to a poster who did. So if I'm repeating what someone else said that's not me saying it. Go back and check if you want to. Then other people commented on it and a discussion took place.

But please go find me a post that I wrote where I wasn't responding to someone else where I said bland and boring. I've already pointed out I said I find her dress style overall bland but her dresses nice. That's all you will find.

How can the comment that Kate presents as bland and boring be baseless given that those generally very warm towards Kate commended this presentation as being Kate's very deliberately contrived 'professional' front, which they lauded as being a super smart pose.

So clearly it has a base. All sides seem receptive to the idea that Kate presents as bland and boring.

She may do this intentionally or that may actually be who she is. There's no evidence to suggest whether it's actually the latter or whether it's faked. Nothing has been written about her to suggest that she's actually sparky and original and has an independent mind. All we know is that she seems to be a blank canvas and people can make of that what they will.

it is a really brave thing Catherine has done speaking so openly to the worlds media.

i also think William has been brave too, facing this in private, trying to protect his wife and family while the media/social media accuse him of all sorts. Turning up at events, chatting and smiling.

The photo was a misstep - although it’s now easy to see why it was done.

if I was Charles I would be proud of her/them too, showing such dignity and fortitude.

@Spectre8

"don't agree she is forced to appear looking or behaving immaculate. It's well known she has curated this perfect image of herself and her family. It's within her gift not to that put that expectation on herself. Plenty of other royal members don't.

You say she has had her character assainated called boring, bland but let's be honest she has curated that image of herself. Can you honestly say that is who she really is of course not. She presents a bland and boring version of herself.

And for her right to reply, William and Charles talk of modernising the royal family. Again they have the power to change that, they just don't. She isn't being forced to stay quiet she could speak out if she wanted to"

The above is what you said, not exactly flattering and the bland and boring did not refer to her dress sense. Can you just leave it alone on this thread?

There’s no way to be that beautiful and bland at the same time.

Indeed

I wanted to be positive but it just sounds like the old fashioned green-eyed monster has some posters by the throat. Beauty is not a zero-sum quality. One woman being beautiful does not make you less so!