REUTERS: Only a minority of Britons under 50 support the monarchy

[TallerSally]

The chart below, along with the unprecedented level of social media (and even royalty!) mocking around Katespiracy and Katephotogate, could send a chill down the RF's spine.

Whilst 70% of those aged 65+ and 50% of the 50-64 (the demographic on MN?) support the monarchy, this drops to 30% among the 25-49 and ONLY 19% among the 18-24s - YouGov Jan 24 data.

Some will say "that's nowt new!" But with TikTok, X and other SM having unprecedented reach (far more than mainstream media) and cultivating literally thousands of GenZ and Millennial mini-influencers, and with the RF in its current state of turmoil (some of it illness-related, some not, incl. Prince William being largely MIA, the RF's reluctance to deal with Prince Andrew and his grifting ex-wife, Rose Hanbury and extra child (!!) rumours, the casting-out and continued vilification of M&H, the embarrassment that is uncle Gary, etc etc), are comparisons to a decade ago going to be helpful in predicting what this means for the RF in the future? I doubt it.

We all know the billionaire RF continue to sustain their taxpayer and IHT exemption-funded luxury lives thanks to the public's goodwill, hence they employ loads of professional PR people to do their comms. But if there's anything recent events have shown, KP in particular suck at it, with the KP comms team the subject of derision and ridicule around the globe.

It's easy to say "they've weathered worse", but the past isn't a guarantor of the future. I'm sure Boris Johnson also thought he could lie to the public forever... until one day, the tide turned. Not saying this is an identical situation, but the recent lies emanating from KP (I'm sorry, issuing a fake 'proof of life' photo is equivalent to telling a lie) are part of a culture of secrecy and public manipulation.

And consider this: last August, the above numbers were:
80% of those aged 65+ and 67% of the 50-64s support the monarchy, versus 56% among the 25-49s and 37% among the 18-24s. So a drop of 26pp (percentage points) for the 25-49s, and 18pp for the 18-24s.

And who's to say what the numbers will be post-Katephotogate?

https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/uk-monarchy-suffers-an-impairment-its-goodwill-2024-03-13/

I don't think it will happen in my or my children's lifetimes

No problem! Let's avoid each other!
That's great! 😅👍😂

(But to mirror what you said to me, if you feel uncomfortable, maybe online forums perhaps are not for you?)

Feel free to report if you do wish. MNHQ can look back at the posts

I want to know what people are actually doing to bring this about other than posting on here and moaning about it @Roussette if you are in your 70s or however old you are, what have you done all these years to further the cause you write about with such passion? Same question to you @TallerSally - what is your work at grass roots to achieve your goal of phasing out the RF?

Plenty. And no I'm not in my 70s

And do you think that will make your post look better to all who read it?

But what? Plenty of what?

With all due respect Jeff, what is it to you?

I really do not have to divulge what I do outside of MN to you
All I will say is, I am as active as I can be in all sorts of ways

It's nothing to me personally rou , I don't know the poster and haven't seen her much before, however what you wrote reads exactly as I described!

However if that's how you wish to come across, by all means, fill your boots.

I’ll ask again, what’s the plan? Do Republic have one? The last time we had a referendum without a plan it was quite controversial and I’m sure most people don’t want to go there again in a hurry.

Republic only have about 10k paid up members I believe at the moment, that’s going to have to increase significantly to have any impact and there is also the possibility that in the meantime PoW or George actually prove to be quite popular.

Also, what is the problem with certain poster(s) that feel the need to play the victim all the time, it’s so tedious and it happens on nearly every thread on this board and it’s pissing me off.

No one is playing the victim and Roussette is more than capable of sticking up for herself - and unlike some on here she does it in a really moderate way too - but literally every time she posts about five or six of you pile on her when she has as much right to express her opinions as anyone else! And that pisses me off frankly!

Well no you don’t @Roussette , but you spend an awful lot of time talking about and, frankly, moaning about an institution, as do many on here; and help whip up antagonism against the RF which has reached a level that, imo, is inhumane towards its targets. So I was interested to know if you actually put your words into action in real life, if your courage on here and apparent status as an authority on the evils of the RF actually translates into tangible activism beyond the keyboard. I don’t suppose you will change your mind and answer, so I’ll have to draw my own conclusions.

If anyone is truly interested in the plan and not just trying g to derail, then have a look here:

https://www.republic.org.uk/

So I was interested to know if you actually put your words into action in real life

Yes I do but if the conclusion you want to draw is that I am lying that is your prerogative

@Artapplicapplications787
Thx
Yes I am a paid a member

Thank you @Artapplicapplications787

Roussette you are picked on regularly here and respond with great patience .
But regarding the pile on and nitpicking at Rousette , remember ‘ you take the most flak when you are over the target ‘
And you are over the target with your posts !

Thank you @Artapplicapplications787
I am not sure what is going on at the moment but it is quite difficult to post when everything is picked up and forensically dissected
I do appreciate your kind words

We all know Republic exists, thanks. However, they have low numbers compared to the apparent numbers of those wishing to abolish the current system. What are a those people doing? Waiting for someone else to do the work or actively lobbying? Sorry, but if you are going to start a thread saying the populace wants to get rid of a thousand years of monarchy, and a constitutional system that has remained pretty solid through incredible political upheaval, then a survey in which, frankly, talk is cheap doesn’t really cut it.

I have never, ever, read a post in which Roussette has been personally antagonistic towards any individual in the RF so that’s simply untrue.

I agree that many members of the RF undergo hideous scrutiny on sm, but that’s largely a result of their position. If they were ordinary Joe Bloggs no one would hold any opinions about them, good or bad, in the first place. And unfortunate though their position is, in terms of mental pressure, that should not prevent a genuine open debate about republicanism which is what this thread is about.

... I must be confused, I thought this was a... discussion board?

@Artapplicapplications787 thanks for sharing - hugely intriguing...