Constitutional chaos.

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Kate is ill (reasons plural - physical and mental etc) but what if that isn’t the main story.

What if the rumours are true and Rose Chum’s third child is William’s? Born 2016, she’s older than Louis.

Massive constitutional headache. Does Daughter Chum enter the line of succession ahead of Louis? Illegitimate but maybe people would demand William treat her as an equal child. Maybe this is what Rishi Sunak has been grappling with.

There would be huge public/social splits on the issue. Church of England issues filling the papers, endless ‘Well, what is the point of marriage’ op-eds from lawyers, and so on. Plus KC3 with health looking shaky….

And what about Kate? Stay or go?

Big ole mess.

NOOO!

Earworm!

I love the people, and the people love me- that's why they restored the British Monarchy!

Indeed!

Also Born to Rule Over You 😀

It's both hilarious and sad that supporting the royal family is supposed to be patriotic.

They are possibly the least patriotic people in the country.

They belong to a European dynasty that would've welcomed the Nazis.

The interests of the people are not the interests of royalty and never will be.

That's strange, I thought it was American Wallis Simpson who was the devoted Nazi lover, and her pathetic husband followed her lead. And the government prior to abdication was glad her divorced status gave them the excuse to get rid of him. What other British monarchs would have welcomed the Nazis?

Hmm...who among a family taught that they deserve to rule because they have been appointed by God to rule, who happily took jewels and ' gifts' from other countries could possibly believe they were part of a 'master race'? He was the one who wanted Hitler to reinstall him as King. Funny how all these royal men are all not only ' born to rule' and also weak and easily influenced by any woman who turns their head. They were both enthusiastic fascists, as were many members of the aristocracy. The Royals are protected from scrutiny at all stages. They then do stupid things because no one tells them not to. So this culture of deference to these people does no good to them.

They belong to a European dynasty that would've welcomed the Nazis.

Well, except for the point that the last two monarchs and their consorts actively opposed the Nazis in a six year war, one in active service in the Royal Navy. At considerable personal risk, snd where three of them were offered the chance of evacuation, but wouldn’t do so. But who lets the facts get in the way?

When the war started, and when Britain was threatened they changed their tune. The aristocracy loved a bit of eugenics in the 1920's and 30's.

What a horrible thread.

Divine Right was abolished in the Glorious Revolution of 1688

They are taught no such thing - if anything, it's the opposite!!

Not just the aristocracy of course. In the early 1930 Oswald Moseley’s British Union of Fascists claimed to have 50,000 members.

Not just the BUF - Fascism became popular all over Europe. Not just Germany and Italy, but Spain and Portugal became Fascist and the Nazis didn't have to work too hard to find collaborators in Hungary, Serbia, France, Belgium and the Netherlands. It was seen as a counterpoint to Communism and a solution to the Depression.

Exactly. Many people think that facism was confined to Nazi Germany and its immediate allies when this was far from the case. And let’s not forget that Hitler and Stalin were originally allies. It’s a lot more complicated than just facist = enemy

She’ll be referred to a Princess Iris on Twitter before long.

Seriously, royals have been impregnating women who are not their wives for centuries. There’s no constitutional crisis. It’s a family matter (assuming she has the Workshy genes as alleged, which only a handful of people know for sure).

Really? Whats more likely- that William has employed a 60 strong team of incompetents in his office, none of whom, despite it being their job, know what the rules were for submitting photographs to International press agencies, or that William, thinking he could do what he liked either ignored them or went over their head? What about Andrew and his imperious attitude to staff, not listening to any advice about both his interview, his relationship with Epstein and myriad other shady people and his court case. What about Charles and his relationship with Peter Ball and taking shady money from Arab princes? Harry? Is it likely that they listen to advice, or that they surround themselves with yes men who either tell them what they want to hear, or they don't listen to advice? Divine right of Kings being abolished and treating people like they still have the Divine right of Kings so they still believe it in their hearts is two different things.

Guardian was pretty keen on eugenics, IIRC. And overt anti-Semitism was also acceptable. People (as Nancy Mitford admitted) didn't know about the camps in Germany and they regarded German treatment of the Jews and the disabled and imprisoning of political opponents as an internal affair. What people, including the RF DID know about and feared was Bolshevism - and they looked on Fascism as a defence against that spreading.

Eugenics was practised at the time in the USA and in Scandinavian countries. Nazism was a "bulwark'" against Communism, which was far more feared at the time.
It's not useful to see isolated incidents through the prism of 21st Century thinking. The England football team collectively did the Nazi salute before a match against Germany, which often surprises people.

OP, you are implying that societal change means a child born out of wedlock is equal to a child born within wedlock.
can you give your professional opinion, as a lawyer, on whether Meghan Markle is an only child? She says she is, her half-sister says she is not, and an American judge has sided with Meghan.
There are interesting parallels with your proposition and I would like to hear your view on this.

(which only a handful of people know for sure).

And yet imbeciles and gossips are more than happy to repeat this despite knowing the precise sum of nothing at all.

There is a child at the very centre of this who is having grown women and men speaking shite about them on the internet. And naming them.

Well done.

And yet I bet most of you were falling to your knees in admiration at Meghan’s internet bullying speech.

Exactly

As did everyone at the 1936 Berlin Olympics.

I don’t think the line of succession would change. It is 2024 but it also is the royal family.

As a counterpoint, Princess Alice, Prince Philip's mother. A great granddaughter of Queen Victoria, born at Windsor Castle, she hid a Jewish family in her house in Athens during the Nazi occupation at great risk to her own life. The Gestapo had suspicions and she played on her (severe) deafness, not letting on she could lip read German perfectly when they called.

She has been named Righteous Among the Nations by Yad Vashem, which only happens after extensive verification, a process in which the fact of being royal is utterly meaningless.

The Gestapo had suspicions and she played on her (severe) deafness, not letting on she could lip read German perfectly when they called

OT but IIRC she could lip read in at least two languages, English and German.