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More Sussex PR antics

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Gottseidank · 10/03/2024 07:02

Imagine using the victims of a school shooting for attention and PR. There seem to be no depths to which this pair will not sink

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13178107/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-pay-surprise-visit-sister-teacher-killed-Uvalde-school-massacre-sing-happy-birthday-heartwarming-clip.html

Meghan and Harry sing happy birthday to school shooting victim family

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle make a surprise visit to Uvalde, Texas, to support the family of Irma Garcia, a teacher killed in the 2022 school shooting.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13178107/Meghan-Markle-Prince-Harry-pay-surprise-visit-sister-teacher-killed-Uvalde-school-massacre-sing-happy-birthday-heartwarming-clip.html

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ArcaneWireless · 29/03/2024 09:24

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:22

She is being positioned as the one saying "go on, love, give your brother a call".

Aye love - give him a call

because our business needs the connection

AliceOlive · 29/03/2024 09:25

ArcaneWireless · 29/03/2024 09:23

And that would be a disastrous ploy.

It would show them to have no compassion to the actual difficulties that his estranged family are experiencing but are instead only focussed on the oft touted optics and their own agenda.

A poor me narrative would not go well.

It has not gone well so far.

smilesy · 29/03/2024 09:25

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:22

She is being positioned as the one saying "go on, love, give your brother a call".

An interesting similarity with what has often been said about the Princess of Wales trying to make peace between the brothers 🤔

Vespanest · 29/03/2024 09:25

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:19

@Vespanest
Do you think narcissism can accept truce? If so, for how long until the next slight is perceived?

No, they have created a divide that they cannot end. So many people now make money from their divide. Harry and Meghan have probably had a huge lesson that not all leaks are plants in the press and that there is a reason the Royal family keep the circle small. Why Harry hadn’t learnt this from his father and mother press battle I don’t know. Any meeting will be reported on 90% shit but people believe the “source” if it suits their agenda

Chupacabara · 29/03/2024 09:26

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ArcaneWireless · 29/03/2024 09:27

Me neither.

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:27

myrtleWilson · 29/03/2024 09:12

Tom Quinn is popping up a lot at the moment- he was cited in a flurry of stories about H&M being told about Kate about 10 mins before broadcast

Omid's replacement, do you think?

Chupacabara · 29/03/2024 09:29

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Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:32

ArcaneWireless · 29/03/2024 09:23

And that would be a disastrous ploy.

It would show them to have no compassion to the actual difficulties that his estranged family are experiencing but are instead only focussed on the oft touted optics and their own agenda.

A poor me narrative would not go well.

So, back to my original question, slightly rephrased - is this WME's strategy, the long-term rehabilitation of their client as the peacemaker amidst the warring Royal brothers?

Vespanest · 29/03/2024 09:36

I can believe Meghan wanting Harry to make peace for himself. The half in half out without trying to profit would have suited Harry and I do think he is a fish out of water. The invictus games is where he comes alive, but once every two years. The press cases have to be taking their toll on his mental health and eventually will dry up. I don’t think he wants to come back but I don’t think he wants to stay away, and there is no greater pull than illness of loved ones.

ArcaneWireless · 29/03/2024 09:36

You would hope not @Prydddan

However damaging the association with OS has been for ‘the brand’ - an association with someone who orchestrates hate to the levels alluded to in the Press would be something that may destroy any future redemption.

The more I think about it, after the revelations the other day, the stranger (convenient?) the timing of the peace seeking missile. It just looks like another swipe.

What a ruddy awful mess.

ArcaneWireless · 29/03/2024 09:41

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:32

So, back to my original question, slightly rephrased - is this WME's strategy, the long-term rehabilitation of their client as the peacemaker amidst the warring Royal brothers?

Who knows?

But I feel any such strategy would still be hugely damaging to H&M long term if there is no genuine want for peace.

It would feel grubby instead of gracious.

As other have said, the people they are surrounding themselves with are probably not serving them well.

RockyandBullwinkle · 29/03/2024 09:41

So, back to my original question, slightly rephrased - is this WME's strategy, the long-term rehabilitation of their client as the peacemaker amidst the warring Royal brothers?

Possibly the final throw of the dice?
I think this strategy will be short lived.
Will be interesting to watch though.

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:43

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Like Vespanet, I find the psychology of it hugely interesting, particularly now we have the overlap with conspiracy theory. I find it quite scary, as it allows people to dismiss any facts they don't like as Murdoch fabrications.

smilesy · 29/03/2024 09:49

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 09:32

So, back to my original question, slightly rephrased - is this WME's strategy, the long-term rehabilitation of their client as the peacemaker amidst the warring Royal brothers?

The problem with this is that, like I alluded to above, it was always Catherine that was seen as potential peacemaker (hanging back to let them talk at Philip’s funeral etc). To have Meghan cast in this role now makes her seem like she is only imitating the Princess imo

Mylovelygreendress · 29/03/2024 09:51

ArcaneWireless · 29/03/2024 09:24

Aye love - give him a call

because our business needs the connection

And while Harry is phoning his brother, Meghan could phone her father !

Vespanest · 29/03/2024 09:52

Meghan has been casted as the peacemaker before, the “private” hand written letters, keeping Charles informed on the children.

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Well, Meghan tried to insert herself at the bedside of the dying Queen after all. Nothing could be more self serving than that.

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areyoutheregod · 29/03/2024 10:03

Whenever there is an article like this, it’s labelled as ‘Sussex PR’, and yet there’s been an awful lot of articles just after Kates video message about how much William doesn’t want to see Harry, hadn’t spoken to him, and isn’t planning to. Who planted those stories? Wales’ PR? That seems an odd focus for William to have when his wife just announced her illness, his hate for his brother. Could it possibly be that the media are simply regurgitating the same tiresome narratives about their relationship? Kept going by the publics appetite for royal drama? That seems far more likely than either side actually putting out these stories. It’s a shame people still get taken in by it.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2024 10:11

Harry and Meghan seem to want to leave the kiss and tell, but a section of their support has hyped up rather than slowed down with the trolling just as they are attempting to promote wholesome selling, anti bullying, feminism

While I agree about some of the filth reported from the grubbier SM sites I'm not sure how that works, Vespanest ... after all H&M have always pretended to advocate for wholesomeness/compassion, even while spouting the most damaging drivel themselves

Frankly it seems a bit late to attempt rowing back on the unpleasantness they've driven, though I agree again that the psychology at play is fascinating

Vespanest · 29/03/2024 10:23

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2024 10:11

Harry and Meghan seem to want to leave the kiss and tell, but a section of their support has hyped up rather than slowed down with the trolling just as they are attempting to promote wholesome selling, anti bullying, feminism

While I agree about some of the filth reported from the grubbier SM sites I'm not sure how that works, Vespanest ... after all H&M have always pretended to advocate for wholesomeness/compassion, even while spouting the most damaging drivel themselves

Frankly it seems a bit late to attempt rowing back on the unpleasantness they've driven, though I agree again that the psychology at play is fascinating

The difference is the selling of the commodities, the Kiss and tell sells whilst you have stories, the trolling increases demand, people buy in through all lenses. People don’t buy designer candles from someone they don’t like and businesses want to exploit all markets, having the owner no matter indirectly linked to online bullying is not a great start especially.

Prydddan · 29/03/2024 10:34

areyoutheregod · 29/03/2024 10:03

Whenever there is an article like this, it’s labelled as ‘Sussex PR’, and yet there’s been an awful lot of articles just after Kates video message about how much William doesn’t want to see Harry, hadn’t spoken to him, and isn’t planning to. Who planted those stories? Wales’ PR? That seems an odd focus for William to have when his wife just announced her illness, his hate for his brother. Could it possibly be that the media are simply regurgitating the same tiresome narratives about their relationship? Kept going by the publics appetite for royal drama? That seems far more likely than either side actually putting out these stories. It’s a shame people still get taken in by it.

I didn't automatically label.it 'Sussex PR'. I asked what we thought. I was especially intrigued because The Independent normally holds itself above Royal tittle-tattle, yet here is a bold headline claim, with no source named.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/03/2024 10:42

Vespanest · 29/03/2024 10:23

The difference is the selling of the commodities, the Kiss and tell sells whilst you have stories, the trolling increases demand, people buy in through all lenses. People don’t buy designer candles from someone they don’t like and businesses want to exploit all markets, having the owner no matter indirectly linked to online bullying is not a great start especially.

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Very true, Vespanest, and that's exactly why it's wise for people to be careful about who they associate with

Granted some of these horrors might have seemed useful originally, but once the dogs are off and running it can be difficult if not impossible to call them back, especiually if they never cared much about the principals in the first place

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