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THE TIMES: Where is Kate? The royal family attracts more speculation by the day

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TallerSally · 09/03/2024 10:11

On today's front page, the Times' Kate Mansey reports on the contrasting approaches taken by KP and BP's comms teams in their handling of the extraordinary situation the RF's currently in. It kicks off with the current host of the US's Daily Show (formerly hosted by the formidable Jon Stewart) asking some questions:

"While the King hosted friends and met world leaders, the Palace’s reluctance to comment on the Princess of Wales’s condition has created a rising sense of panic
One of America’s most popular TV comedy programmes was asking the question that had captured the nation. It was not about the Super Tuesday primary contests ahead of the US elections, or the State of the Union address, which elicited an exaggerated yawn from the presenter.

Instead, The Daily Show’s Ronny Chieng turned to look straight into the camera to ask: “Where is Kate Middleton? Where are you, Kate?”

There was no rush to provide reassurance this week from the Prince of Wales, who appeared to begin his working week on Friday with a visit to the Oval cricket ground for his Earthshot environmental campaign. Aides said that William had been busy all week, just not in a way that was visible to the public.

The King was doing the opposite. Away from public duties on doctors’ orders while he undergoes cancer treatment, the monarch had been expected to take this week as scheduled time off. Despite being told to “slow down” by the Queen, who took her own advice and flew to sunnier climes for a few days of relaxation, the King was ramping up.

He was photographed meeting world leaders and ambassadors from his living room at Buckingham Palace. Away from the cameras, he hosted friends who rallied round for afternoon tea and dinner dates. He insisted on the “more public” option of travelling between Buckingham Palace and his more comfortable private quarters at Clarence House in the State Bentley, so that he could “be seen”. Quite what the Queen made of it all from her sun lounger is anyone’s guess, but there are those in the palace who have an idea."

A tongue-in-cheek piece, but raises some interesting questions: have KP messed up the comms around Kate? and William? What is really going on with them? Why is the Royal family-funding public kept in the dark for so long, when usually not a couple of days go by without us having some nicely staged photo of some kind from Kensington Palace?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-is-kate-prince-william-king-charles-cancer-khktpx9bm

Where is Kate? The royal family attracts more speculation by the day

While the King hosted friends and met world leaders, the Palace’s reluctance to comment on the Princess of Wales’s condition has created a rising sense of panic

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/where-is-kate-prince-william-king-charles-cancer-khktpx9bm

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Grosshesselohe · 10/03/2024 15:40

TallerSally · 10/03/2024 13:52

Finally, a little bit of remedial PR by Kensington Palace. No doubt rattled by the ghastly-sounding BBL memes of Kate and other unpleasantness on social media (you know you’ve screwed-up your PR, which is the subject of this thread, when your principal that you’re paid big bucks for is being ridiculed all over social media with BBL memes).

A lovely picture, and a more respectful communication with the British public than KP have managed thus far.

Is it too little too late? Possibly, given that the trolling and mockery doesn’t seem to be abating.

But hopefully KP have got the message - getting comms right can’t be rocket science if even BP has been doing a better job than they have.

(If there is a profusion of BBL-equivalent memes of King Charles I’ll be happily corrected!)

Well if they want your opinion, they’ll ask for it.

Hint: they won’t be asking for it.

Italianita · 10/03/2024 15:43

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smilesy · 10/03/2024 15:44

LittleGlowingOblong · 10/03/2024 14:09

In their shoes, given all the speculation, I’d have photoshopped in the engagement and wedding ring, tbh. Their advisors must know what’s being said, even if K&W never open social media.

They are a carefully curated billion dollar brand, and one of the most famous families in the world, these things are not “oops I didn’t put my ring back on after doing the washing up”!

Or maybe they can’t be bothered with ridiculous subterfuge and are just being honest and Kate is not wearing her rings because she is at home, recovering from a procedure and just forgot to put them on, so continuing their brand of being relatively normal and not pandering to those who micro analyse everything 🤔

BigWillyLittleTodger · 10/03/2024 15:46

eise · 10/03/2024 15:34

Have you not seen how unhinged and rude the posts on Meghan are? True cyber bullying facilitated by this forum. To be fair all this stuff on Kate is mild.

In your opinion, not mine.

Hughs · 10/03/2024 16:00

Have you not seen how unhinged and rude the posts on Meghan are? True cyber bullying facilitated by this forum. To be fair all this stuff on Kate is mild.

I mean, there are news reports online about her being dead, that her children could see, but sure, mild, yeah.

Operationdark · 10/03/2024 16:03

smilesy · 10/03/2024 15:44

Or maybe they can’t be bothered with ridiculous subterfuge and are just being honest and Kate is not wearing her rings because she is at home, recovering from a procedure and just forgot to put them on, so continuing their brand of being relatively normal and not pandering to those who micro analyse everything 🤔

Yes this will doubtless be the truth rather than some of the whacky theories swirling out there (or on here more worryingly)

LadyMuckonpancakes · 10/03/2024 16:12

I don’t wear my rings at June a lot of the time . Or iut for that matter. Her engagement ring is huge. She isn’t going to wear it around the house, is she?

blacksax · 10/03/2024 16:23

SpringtimeBunny · 09/03/2024 22:26

@LittleGlowingOblong Kate does Ballet? 😂 Isn't she a bit old for that?

Oh haha very funny. Not. Grow up.

A lot of adults do ballet classes. Very good for core strength and general fitness.

pilates · 10/03/2024 17:02

I’m sure SS are on the RF board. How could MN find out if they are. They can’t can they? Perhaps MN can answer that one?

Roussette · 10/03/2024 17:31

pilates · 10/03/2024 17:02

I’m sure SS are on the RF board. How could MN find out if they are. They can’t can they? Perhaps MN can answer that one?

Who do you think they are?
I'm curious

TallerSally · 10/03/2024 17:58

At first I thought SS referred to officers of the German army during WWII....

... then I found out it was one of the most ridiculously infantile social media monikers I've heard in a long time, and just couldn't stop LAUGHING!

What are we, in a high school playground? Trench warfare between team Sussex Squad and team Schmuppet Squad!!

Puhleeeeeeeese.

Of course, some folks who struggle to process nuance have a strong need to put people in boxes. And others, it would seem, consider these discussion boards an existential matter, rather than simply a place to engage with ideas and discuss.

Each to their own! It is kinda funny though. Defo reminds me of high school (fondly or not)....

😆😆😆

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AlbertoDilemma · 10/03/2024 18:09

Why do you love Murdoch so, @TallerSally? I thought he was a very bad man.

myrtleWilson · 10/03/2024 18:12

Are the self monikered Sussex Squad members putting themselves in a box - is it an evolution of Schrödinger's box?

TallerSally · 10/03/2024 18:12

Re-posting this as it's a hugely interesting read! (no doubt it was written by the notorious Schmuppet Squad leader, Misty McSchmumplet):

Shows that KP's PR team are definitely closely monitoring and responding to social media - obv, what PR team wouldn't - despite what some on these boards seem to think:

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media/

“This is just weird”: BuzzFeed News’ former royals reporter on Kate Middleton, Palace PR, and distrust in the media

"I cannot emphasize enough how out of character it is that a royal press team went on the record in response to what is essentially gossip."

https://www.niemanlab.org/2024/03/this-is-just-weird-buzzfeed-news-former-royals-reporter-on-kate-middleton-palace-press-and-distrust-in-the-media

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theduchessofspork · 10/03/2024 18:35

Pluralism · 10/03/2024 08:11

It's the people complaining that it's "insane" or "swivel eyed nutter" to ask questions when a woman disappears for months on end, who really live up to their own slurs. By contrast, I've been calm and measured throughout. Not always accepting the official line and doffing one's cap at authority isn't the huge character flaw you're making it out to be!

Aren’t you the one who was suggesting she and the kids had been whisked away due to a security threat?!

If so calm and measured isn’t a description that springs to mind.

Doffing your cap doesn’t come into it. She’s off sick, why is no more your business than if the receptionist at work was off sick.

Pluralism · 10/03/2024 19:08

I really don't see why you get so worked up about people trying to figure out what's going on and not necessarily accepting every press release from KP unquestioningly. You're obviously very credulous, but that's you. Other people take a different approach.

Hughs · 10/03/2024 19:13

You're obviously very credulous, but that's you. Other people take a different approach.

😂😂 like coming up with "she and the kids have been moved to a place of safety, possibly because of some risk identified by the security services" you mean? It's certainly different, I'll give you that 🤪🤪

smilesy · 10/03/2024 19:22

Pluralism · 10/03/2024 19:08

I really don't see why you get so worked up about people trying to figure out what's going on and not necessarily accepting every press release from KP unquestioningly. You're obviously very credulous, but that's you. Other people take a different approach.

There’s a bit of a difference between being credulous and making up fantastical nonsense 😆

ChVrches · 10/03/2024 19:32

I thought it was pretty obvious that the Princess of Wales had had her head chopped off like some previous English monarchs did and the high neck sweater is to hide the bit where it is stitched back on. You guys are so funny!

Salemforcuddles · 10/03/2024 19:34

Ah that's why she is wearing a polo neck, makes perfect sense now

Uricon2 · 10/03/2024 19:38

She's worn an Anne Boleyn type head dress, now we have the ... Anne Boleyn polo neck, useful for those times when you regret you didn't LTB.

I think credulous better applies to people who seem happy to suggest conspiracy theories with zero evidence.

smilesy · 10/03/2024 19:50

Uricon2 · 10/03/2024 19:38

She's worn an Anne Boleyn type head dress, now we have the ... Anne Boleyn polo neck, useful for those times when you regret you didn't LTB.

I think credulous better applies to people who seem happy to suggest conspiracy theories with zero evidence.

It’s a bit like how it was revealed the other day that many of the UFO sightings in the US are, in fact, military aircraft and other such easily explainable things. Most things are exactly what they appear to be. Life is not full of exciting conspiracies at all. But some just don’t want to accept that, so they just think everyone else must be stupid and gullible, rather than everyone else
has weighed up the evidence and decided that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck that’s exactly what it is. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one

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Pluralism · 10/03/2024 20:01

smilesy · 10/03/2024 19:50

It’s a bit like how it was revealed the other day that many of the UFO sightings in the US are, in fact, military aircraft and other such easily explainable things. Most things are exactly what they appear to be. Life is not full of exciting conspiracies at all. But some just don’t want to accept that, so they just think everyone else must be stupid and gullible, rather than everyone else
has weighed up the evidence and decided that if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck that’s exactly what it is. The simplest explanation is usually the correct one

Goodness, I'd love to be like you and live in a world where everything was straight forward and obvious and everyone was honest. Where is this magical place? Dorking? Bracknell? Please do tell😁

smilesy · 10/03/2024 20:24

Pluralism · 10/03/2024 20:01

Goodness, I'd love to be like you and live in a world where everything was straight forward and obvious and everyone was honest. Where is this magical place? Dorking? Bracknell? Please do tell😁

Earth. As in down to

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