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Are Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lili coming back home?

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NotMyPage · 07/03/2024 18:59

It would be nice to have them back and getting along with the rest of the family, what do people think? They'd have to apologise and try to move forward in a positive way. With Charles being unwell and elderly, and the Wales kids too young to serve as working royals, the Sussex's may be needed. Trump may win the election, which could have a negative impact on them and Archie will start school soon, a great time to relocate home?? Apparently Meghan is looking for PR agencies to help her improve her image. Would the Uk welcome them?

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AliceOlive · 08/03/2024 18:28

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 18:11

acknowledgement of past drug use does not necessarily bar people from entering or staying in the country.

What a complete waste of the courts time.

I think the claim is that he lied on his application.

EdithWeston · 08/03/2024 18:39

BigWillyLittleTodger · 08/03/2024 14:12

but I don't think it reasonable for Harry to reject their birthright on their behalf.

Do you think Ann was unreasonable then in denying her children titles when offered? and Edward and Sophie were wrong to not have their children’s titles as Prince and Princess? So Prince Andrew did the right thing accepting Princess titles for his daughters?

Harry did reject their birthright when it suited him.

From birth they could have been either Earl of Dumbarton or (if they, as reported, did not like the sound of that) Lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor and Lady Lili Mountbatten-Windsor.

Choosing Master and Miss was a deliberate choice, and one that was positively received (just as no HRH Prince/ss for the Edinburgh DC - it's their birthright, but parents rejected it as they were never likely to be working royals, and the one who is now of age and can choose for herself has not done so)

diamondpony80 · 08/03/2024 18:42

I can’t see how it’d be nice to be honest. They have proved they can’t be trusted in any way. The minute there is even a tiny family disagreement Harry will be off running to the media about how hard done by he is. There’s no way back from what they’ve done. The book, Oprah, everything. I feel sorry for Charles and William because it’s an awful situation but Harry made his choices. He’s better off staying away.

TallerSally · 08/03/2024 18:47

I think the claim is that he lied on his application.

I'd be keen to understand how anyone is going to prove this... the argument that whatever Harry said in Spare does not constitute evidence does seem to resonate.

The whole thing sounds like a nuisance lawsuit, designed to harass and harm H&M, more than anything else, grasping at straws in the hope of breaking up H&M's marriage and family. They are evidently well settled in the US with zero intention of leaving their lovely US-based life anytime soon. This obviously bothers a lot of people, who'd like more disruption and harm, including to H&M's children.

Also, the fact that it's being pursued by a far-right think tank, the Heritage Foundation, says it all. Just more culture wars BS, targeting H&M because they champion progressive causes such as gender equality which the far-right hate.

I hope the US justice system deals with THF robustly, explaining exactly the harm that could result if THF's thinly-veiled anti-H&M goals are reached, and that the whole thing is not remotely a matter of general public interest.

You have to wonder how realistic it is to have a rule that taking cannabis prevents you from applying for a visa to enter the US...

Salemforcuddles · 08/03/2024 18:52

I don't think William will ever forgive Harry

justasking111 · 08/03/2024 19:01

Lifebeganat50 · 07/03/2024 19:00

I think where they live now is “home”

Me too

BruFord · 08/03/2024 19:10

@TallerSally I agree that’s absolutely a nuisance lawsuit (nice phrase!), the US is a very litigious society and I’m sure there are thousands of pointless lawsuits every year.

Again, that’s what I mean about Harry adjusting to life outside the Royal bubble though. He’s living in a different country, he’s a not a citizen, and he’s not protected by being royal.

If he did tick a “no drug use” box on his paperwork and then proceeded to talk about his drug use, he was daft. Much better to be honest at the outset.

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 19:24

The whole thing sounds like a nuisance lawsuit, designed to harass and harm H&M, more than anything else, grasping at straws in the hope of breaking up H&M's marriage and family. They are evidently well settled in the US with zero intention of leaving their lovely US-based life anytime soon. This obviously bothers a lot of people, who'd like more disruption and harm, including to H&M's children.

Exactly this. There is no reason for him to lie, with an American wife, two American children, and most drug use in his youth, it is a non-issue. The fact this pathetic group of people want to do this, is another example of the unhinged hate towards them.

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 19:27

Its always the same... if he did this... the claim is (based on zero information ).... apparently they said this... apparently they asked for this or that... Its just random hypothetical things being debated over and over. Much of it originating in tabloids.

Salemforcuddles · 08/03/2024 19:31

One American child, Archie is British

Roussette · 08/03/2024 19:32

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 19:27

Its always the same... if he did this... the claim is (based on zero information ).... apparently they said this... apparently they asked for this or that... Its just random hypothetical things being debated over and over. Much of it originating in tabloids.

Yes and if they don't deny it....it's true!

If they were to spend their time denying every ridiculous story that is published about them, they wouldn't have any sort of life

sprigatito · 08/03/2024 19:33

Salemforcuddles · 08/03/2024 19:31

One American child, Archie is British

Isn't he a dual citizen who lives in the USA? That makes him more American than British, surely.

I think H&M would rather tear out their own fingernails than move back here.

justasking111 · 08/03/2024 19:35

Sitting here with a rug over my legs 🥶. Think I'd prefer the climate in Montecito 😊

BruFord · 08/03/2024 19:38

Pushtart · 08/03/2024 19:27

Its always the same... if he did this... the claim is (based on zero information ).... apparently they said this... apparently they asked for this or that... Its just random hypothetical things being debated over and over. Much of it originating in tabloids.

@Pushtart Well quite, but I still think he was daft to talk about his drug use.

AliceOlive · 08/03/2024 19:42

It would be quite fascinating to see them begin denying things that came out of their own mouths. I supposed it wouldn’t be the first time though.

DisforDarkChocolate · 08/03/2024 19:44

Why would they want too. The bullying and racism from our press is bad enough, why spend time with a family that have the same traits.

ChVrches · 08/03/2024 19:45

Well we don't want them back in Canada.

JSMill · 08/03/2024 19:45

Harry did reject their birthright when it suited him.

From birth they could have been either Earl of Dumbarton or (if they, as reported, did not like the sound of that) Lord Archie Mountbatten-Windsor and Lady Lili Mountbatten-Windsor.

Choosing Master and Miss was a deliberate choice, and one that was positively received (just as no HRH Prince/ss for the Edinburgh DC - it's their birthright, but parents rejected it as they were never likely to be working royals, and the one who is now of age and can choose for herself has not done so)
My theory is that H wanted his dcs to be treated just like William's ie prince/princess from birth. This was rejected and he was angry about that so cut off his nose to spite his face and didn't use the title Archie was entitled to (Lord) as he thought his dc deserved better. Once QE II passed away, his dcs were entitled to be a prince and a princess, he happily used them.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 08/03/2024 19:51

I do wonder if Harry realised why the Cambridge children, as was, were all titled or if he assumed it was some sort of favouritism toward William.

Meghan certainly didn’t seem to realise when she mentioned it during the Oprah interview, I doubt she realised the possible PR storm the royals would have faced had George been a girl and entitled to a lesser title than a younger brother.

Roussette · 08/03/2024 19:54

ChVrches · 08/03/2024 19:45

Well we don't want them back in Canada.

Are you Justin Trudeau given you're speaking for the whole of Canada??!!

Kjones27 · 08/03/2024 19:54

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Josette77 · 08/03/2024 19:57

Roussette · 08/03/2024 19:54

Are you Justin Trudeau given you're speaking for the whole of Canada??!!

Lordy please don't let Trudeau speak for all Canadians.
There's a reason he is going to lose the next election.

That said if it's up to Canada to fund them no, we are currently fucked as it is. We can't afford them.

We can't even afford Trudeau.

JudgeJ · 08/03/2024 20:02

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 08/03/2024 19:51

I do wonder if Harry realised why the Cambridge children, as was, were all titled or if he assumed it was some sort of favouritism toward William.

Meghan certainly didn’t seem to realise when she mentioned it during the Oprah interview, I doubt she realised the possible PR storm the royals would have faced had George been a girl and entitled to a lesser title than a younger brother.

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As the Cambridge children at their births were not the grandchildren of the monarch through the male line I believe there had to be special adaptations to the rules for them to be Princes and Princess. The same applied to Harry's children but as he was not in direct line of succession there was no need for changes, there was no snub or favouritism, just Harry's inability to understand things.

Janiie · 08/03/2024 20:03

It's a dilemma for them because without the royal link they are just celebs, not very interesting ones at that. They need the Royal stuff.

The late Queen clearly wouldn't accept Harry's demands but KC seems a bit of a soft touch when it comes to H so who knows if they'll be thrown a few crumbs.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 08/03/2024 20:06

JudgeJ · 08/03/2024 20:02

As the Cambridge children at their births were not the grandchildren of the monarch through the male line I believe there had to be special adaptations to the rules for them to be Princes and Princess. The same applied to Harry's children but as he was not in direct line of succession there was no need for changes, there was no snub or favouritism, just Harry's inability to understand things.

what I meant by my post is that, given how uninformed about his own family he seems to be, I do wonder if Harry realised there was a reason for the LP’s for the Cambridge children.

There would have been an absolute storm if Charlotte had been born first and titled Lady Charlotte when a boy would be HRH Prince.

I don’t actually think Meghan grasped the actual reason for the LPs. Using the phrase that they expected “all of the grandchildren to be treated the same” suggests she really didn’t get why the great-grandchildren born to William were treated differently at the time.

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