Are Harry, Meghan, Archie and Lili coming back home?

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It would be nice to have them back and getting along with the rest of the family, what do people think? They'd have to apologise and try to move forward in a positive way. With Charles being unwell and elderly, and the Wales kids too young to serve as working royals, the Sussex's may be needed. Trump may win the election, which could have a negative impact on them and Archie will start school soon, a great time to relocate home?? Apparently Meghan is looking for PR agencies to help her improve her image. Would the Uk welcome them?

Why would a family want them back after they have made millions trashing them with lies? They are 'home' and hopefully for all concerned will stay there though their diminishing value may make that financially difficult down the years.

Me too ! Great to see the perspective on Meghan and Harry has changed here.

Ironic if the conservative media who protected Kate & William, and portrayed them as symbols of conservative, compliant ideals, ends up also being their demise.

Even if Trump is elected and takes office, he won’t control the Justice department. History has shown that.

I wonder how many other royal ladies expected to be constantly asked how they were when they were pregnant? I think she knew exactly what the expectations were as the wife of a senior royal but thought the whole system would change to suit her.

TallerSally · Today 14:54

I think you're in denial.

But I rest my case, Your Honour!

I think if they really did have to leave US (and I can’t see that happening) they would make Canada home base. But I do think the signs are there that Harry wants to spend more time in England.

Everyone saying otherwise is coming from a lack of perspective on what it must feel like for him to have been gone for so long. He wouldn’t keep fighting about security if he only planned to visit periodically.

Neither do I

No they didn't create the stink, the press, their 'sources' and the public did by making it an intolerable life. As for biding her time, she had suicidal thoughts and clear distress, so did Harry. They did not feel protected or safe. So I think your suggestions are impractical and unreasonable. Health comes first. The age of the Queen and Philip didn't stop the press and some of the public harassing their grandson and his new wife.

If Meghan had genuinely wanted to be part of the show, but wished to see change/reform etc, the wise move would have been to learn the ropes quietly and bided her time. If they'd toed the line for a couple of years while learning the job I bet Charles would have been sympathetic to some of their wishes

It was just arrogant to come in and create such a storm at that particular time. Absolutely no excuses for what they did and I think they're both culpable

Precisely - and this is why I said upthread there are ways of behaving around arguments

Some will earn respect and others less so, but that's a matter for those doing the choosing and no amount of crying "Unfair!!" will change that

@AliceOlive You’re right, the president doesn’t control the Dept. of Homeland Security. If his immigration application is in order, all’s well; if it’s not, my gut feeling is that as immigration is currently a big issue (and the presidential candidates are talking about it) DHS will probably have to be seen to do something.

If that happens, it’ll only affect Harry as he’s the non-citizen. No idea what it might be, he might have to pay a fine, go home for a few months and reapply, etc.

I just hope that the judge says that his paperwork’s in order and it all blows over.

It’s all politicized these days. It’s become clear that most every department has an agenda. But not every judge. So it’s going to depend on whether this one is a stickler or not.

I truly hope not also. I wouldn’t wish that on them. Not sure why because I’d happily toss anyone else out of the country for promoting hard drug use at this point. But I do feel for them.

Always a possibility but I don't really view them as 'Royal' anymore.

They opted out and for the most part made complete tits of themselves in the process. Definitely revealed far too much of the way they think and act. Not sure you an undo that and opt back in.

I would much rather have Queen Elizabeth II's other grandchildren help out with Royal duties for a while if needed.

I would feel quite disappointed to get the opportunity to go to a Royal event this pair whiney grifters turned up as the 'Royals'. Nope. Many, many other Royals I would much rather meet - Lady Louise, Princess Eugenie, Princess Beatrice, Zara...

@AliceOlive Yes and that’s partly what I meant upthread about Harry adjusting to being a more “normal” celebrity rather than a Royal. This type of thing doesn’t happen to someone in the Royal bubble, but he’s doesn’t have that now, a judge can review his paperwork, just like everyone else!

You're easily amused.

What hypocrisy on the part of the RF? They've literally said nothing in the face of immense provocation!

Absolutely. It must be a difficult adjustment.

I lost my airline status and haven’t gotten over it. 🤣

The Heritage Foundation or whoever they are arecdemanding they have access to private and confidential information about someone's visa application. If they win, it would mean anyone could just apply to get anyone else's private information from government departments. People are so desperate to stick one to Harry and Meghan that they would give away their own constitutional right to privacy. It's insane.

Well then why didn't he? Why did he wait until she became the catalyst?

I don't believe he'd ever have had the balls to do it otherwise.

No, I think that would fall under the FOIA here in the US.

Same way they do things like get someone’s tax records.

https://www.foia.gov/faq.html

@Angrycat2768 I thought that the judge has ruled that DHS must hand over the paperwork to him for private review by later this month?

I don’t know the laws on this, but is that a legal change? I agree that if all and sundry could see it, that would be horrific.

I don’t doubt that Harry would like to come and go to the UK on a more frequent basis, and to be able to have a royal “base”. I don’t think Meghan would fancy it.

If any olive branches were exchanged, then I can’t imagine what H&M’s inclusion in the royal fold would look like. Apparently Harry offered to attend, with Meghan, the BAFTAs. Yeah right. So they pick the glam events and still get to thumb their noses at community centre openings in Corby. No, can’t see it working.

I don’t see the immigration as a Harry privacy but more of a systematic problem. I don’t think anyone should have the authority to see private documents but there should be a mechanism for reporting a possible breach and trust those to preform due diligence. If Trump or in the UK Boris had potentially lied under oath then I’d want a system that is trustworthy to investigate. Not that I think either country has trustworthy systems.

It’s also a way to ensure the rules are being applied fairly to everyone. You need transparency for that. Say they ban some from entry or removed them while allowing others to remain. How would those people ever seek redress if all of the records are kept private?

@Vespanest Judges must surely already be able to review immigrations docs though or they couldn’t rule on immigration cases/appeals.

I’ve been through the immigration system and it’s a nightmare anyway.

Guess now he's lost his case against the home office they are now faced with considerable security costs for life which will increase as their children become older. Notably with Archie who will no doubt require his own protection once starting school.
There is talk of Meghan hiring a PR agency in respect of promoting her image in Europe
I really wouldn't be surprised therefore if they believe there is some sort of vacancy given the current situation with Charles and Kate's health concerns.
That said my mind boggles how they think they could even begin to build bridges given the allegations made against the very family members who would have a key role in the decision to let them return.
Would Megan appreciate ahe would have to curtsey to Kate who is now a Princess if that's the case.

Oh come off it! He was part and parcel of the RF. He was massively popular. He seemed like an all-round decent guy, good banter, related well to people (except the press).

It probably was for the best that he met Meghan and left. Now the public can see what he is really like, and it's not a good look.

As for the "half in half out" crap aka 'have your cake and eat it'! They have clung on so very hard to all the vestiges of royalty, the use of their titles (so what did happen to "call me Harry"??), titles for the children... They just want the best of all worlds. Deep down they must know that they are nothing without the Royalty thing.