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Prince Harry's book

132 replies

Kjones27 · 05/03/2024 15:19

I only got round to reading it on hols this week.

Most of I knew already, but I was shocked at Harry's description of William. I always thought they were close.

He is very nasty about William in the book.

What were your thoughts?

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Vespanest · 07/03/2024 11:44

The book will always remain hypocritical for the institution he hates “the firm” he is still living as a royal, addressed as a royal and ultimately has created his own hierarchy with his own children. His son is above his daughter and more senior, both children more senior in royal terms to Meghan and that ultimately was Harry’s choice. I am meant to believe that being born within the monarchy is a poisoned chalice that needed to be escaped, but only escaping with one foot still left behind for the benefits.

Mylovelygreendress · 07/03/2024 12:11

Changingplace · 07/03/2024 09:57

She was living that life before they met, she’s hardly penniless and needing him to pay for everything.

Umm , she lived in a rented apartment, had a leased car and until Suits was scrabbling around doing stuff like Deal or No Deal .
What Meghan was good at was cultivating the “ right” people enabling her to lead a nice life .
She certainly wasn’t living in a huge mansion with staff , private jets etc !

Chomping · 07/03/2024 12:14

Mylovelygreendress · 07/03/2024 12:11

Umm , she lived in a rented apartment, had a leased car and until Suits was scrabbling around doing stuff like Deal or No Deal .
What Meghan was good at was cultivating the “ right” people enabling her to lead a nice life .
She certainly wasn’t living in a huge mansion with staff , private jets etc !

And then dropping them once she stepped up to the next level

Maudeslittleredshoes · 07/03/2024 12:18

Esse1234 · 06/03/2024 23:29

I didn't say it was "THE truth" @ExpertNutritionalistAndBestSellingAuthor I said it was 'his truth'

Can you not find some compassion for a boy that lost his mother at 12, that fought on the front line for our army as a mixed up young man and has tried to do some good with his charity work? have you done so much better than him as an 'expert nutritionalist and best selling author' that you feel the need to judge him.

You do realise a username is a made up name don’t you.

MaturingCheeseball · 07/03/2024 12:22

Yes, prior to Suits Meghan was living a life that was expensive, and not affordable on her previous earnings. I don’t have a problem with a person hustling for the life they aspire to - but just admit it. She was living off her previous dh - that’s fine, a marriage is “a team” - but she was off on holidays and living it up sans Trevor so one does suspect that he was Mr Comfortably Reliable rather than Mr Right.

Changingplace · 07/03/2024 12:40

Mylovelygreendress · 07/03/2024 12:11

Umm , she lived in a rented apartment, had a leased car and until Suits was scrabbling around doing stuff like Deal or No Deal .
What Meghan was good at was cultivating the “ right” people enabling her to lead a nice life .
She certainly wasn’t living in a huge mansion with staff , private jets etc !

A very quick Google tells me from various sources she was worth about £5m before they met, she wasn’t struggling.

Dssdied · 07/03/2024 12:49

I listened to it on Spotify.

I actually thought it was heart wrenching.

He lost is mother at a ridiculously young age and was forced to parade through the streets behind her coffin. It did untold damage to him.

He was actively told and treated as unimportant.

How did you expect him to respond?

He did what any normal kid does. The only difference is he wasn't afforded the ability to fuck up in private.

Ultimately he fought on the front line for your freedom to right bs about him. He is a war hero who has gone on to raise millions for injured veterans.

There is probably more than a grian of truth to the allegations about the violence from William.

Vespanest · 07/03/2024 13:13

He doesn’t self reflect, the women for example, Camilla the wicked witch of the west, Diana an angel gave by god to walk the earth, the truth two flawed women involved with a very flawed man. The pathetic who made who cry an ill fitting dress a stressed bride and a woman who has just given birth with witnesses so only guess work on who leaked the story. He gives his perspective but is rubbish at attempting to view others. Even the press, he’s more annoyed at the press printing pictures of him naked, his drug use, as a Nazi than actually the action and somehow still manages to blame William and Kate for the Nazi. Now he loves his family and wants to reunify, which of course will be William’s fault if it doesn’t happen. You write a relationship ending book then you should expect that relationships end, not use emotive language on national tv

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 13:27

MaturingCheeseball · 07/03/2024 12:22

Yes, prior to Suits Meghan was living a life that was expensive, and not affordable on her previous earnings. I don’t have a problem with a person hustling for the life they aspire to - but just admit it. She was living off her previous dh - that’s fine, a marriage is “a team” - but she was off on holidays and living it up sans Trevor so one does suspect that he was Mr Comfortably Reliable rather than Mr Right.

I kind of disagree that meghan married Harry for money.

She had a regular income coming in. I think it was in the millions per year, is that right.

Then she married Harry, amd gave up her stable job.
Then she and Harry together left the royal family, and left the steady income he got from that.

What steady income do they have now? None. Harry doesn't have a job. He doesn't get any money from the royal family. Their money is coming from sporadic deals with Netflix and his book

The only thing is suits would have ended at some point. So maybe she did think she would be better off financially if she got with Harry. It's hard to know.

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 13:37

I do think the way Harry talks about meghan in the book, and documentary is sweet but also a little bit odd. He is absolutely devoted to her, to the point of putting himself down.

He said things like "when I saw her, i realised I would have to up my game".

Did he not realise that out of the two of them, most people would see him as the much mote attractive person. And that thousands of women would want him.

He constantly talks about her like he wasn't good enough for amazing meghan, and he thought he had to improve himself to get her .
He seems a bit blindly obsessed. But it reminds me of a documentary I saw about the English King who abdicated the throne for an American woman.

The kings friend spoke in the documentary.

His friend said about the king

"he thought wallis simpson was Joan of Arc. No one else did'

He said the king would be talking to Wallis Simpson with absolute blind devotion. And the Kings friends would be looking at Wallis thinking she wasn't much to look at , and her personality wasn't great either.

Harry seems like a similar man. He is a weak man who will let his wife dictate his entire life. He won't stand up to her

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AliceOlive · 07/03/2024 13:52

Changingplace · 07/03/2024 12:40

A very quick Google tells me from various sources she was worth about £5m before they met, she wasn’t struggling.

I think she may have made more from Suits.

But $5M won’t go that far in US, especially after taxes. I live in a relatively inexpensive area with a relatively boring life and would not automatically quit my job if I suddenly had $5M.

You’d want to keep the principle invested and most of the income, also. The tax would eat a good bit of that.

No clue how people earning that much invest. Us poors have a 19K limit on what we can invest before taxes into retirement then are taxed when we withdraw, which we can’t do before retirement age.

That is a total simplification to say, even if she had $5M invested and was living off the income, that’s not going to fund a true jet-set life for long. $400K annually at best overtime and that’s pre-tax. Using all of the income wouldn’t be very smart.

SaffronSpice · 07/03/2024 13:55

Harry doesn't have a job.

Netflix didn’t give them £100 million contract to kick their heels. He has a very well paid job to use that money to create content for Netflix.

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 13:55

AliceOlive · 07/03/2024 13:52

I think she may have made more from Suits.

But $5M won’t go that far in US, especially after taxes. I live in a relatively inexpensive area with a relatively boring life and would not automatically quit my job if I suddenly had $5M.

You’d want to keep the principle invested and most of the income, also. The tax would eat a good bit of that.

No clue how people earning that much invest. Us poors have a 19K limit on what we can invest before taxes into retirement then are taxed when we withdraw, which we can’t do before retirement age.

That is a total simplification to say, even if she had $5M invested and was living off the income, that’s not going to fund a true jet-set life for long. $400K annually at best overtime and that’s pre-tax. Using all of the income wouldn’t be very smart.

Yeah 5 mill is truly not a lot in california. I remember being in L.A, and the taxi driver pointed out the tiniest house to me. He said "that house would cost you 1 million".

I looked up the area to see of he was right, and he was. It was tiny

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ExpertNutritionalistAndBestSellingAuthor · 07/03/2024 13:57

Say what you want about his silly book, his multiple lawsuits and his emotional state due to losing his mum so young, but the comments touting Prince Harry as a war hero are incredibly ignorant to the many many service men and women in the armed forces.

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 13:58

SaffronSpice · 07/03/2024 13:55

Harry doesn't have a job.

Netflix didn’t give them £100 million contract to kick their heels. He has a very well paid job to use that money to create content for Netflix.

Yeah I know they have got deals. That got them a lot of money that will last them a long time.

Have they only made one documentary for Netflix so far?

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Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 14:00

SaffronSpice · 07/03/2024 13:55

Harry doesn't have a job.

Netflix didn’t give them £100 million contract to kick their heels. He has a very well paid job to use that money to create content for Netflix.

I guess I was thinking of the more 9-5 regular job like Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have.

Harry is just making documentaries about his life and writing books about his life - for money.

But yes, he will get a lot of money for it. So that will fund them

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SaffronSpice · 07/03/2024 14:03

They did an invictus thing as well but I don’t think it was much of a hit. I believe they also got film rights to a book bought for them by Netflix (in addition to the £100m) to turn into a film presumably using the £100m. If you compare that to the big budget block busters I suppose £100m is actually not that much to produce a film and a few documentary series, plus take a significant wage.

SaffronSpice · 07/03/2024 14:06

Their problem is the only thing they do that really attracts the interest is due to their royal connections. The longer they remain outside that sphere, the less interested people are in them. Hence the cynicism by many, including the Royal Family, about their interest in building bridges as their celebrity status falls.

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 15:16

It does show that love is stronger than anything in a way. Cuz he gave up a lot for her. His family. His reputation.

He was really popular before he met her.

Now he can't give a speech anywhere, without being called an idiot.

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EchoChamber · 07/03/2024 15:50

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 14:00

I guess I was thinking of the more 9-5 regular job like Princess Beatrice and Eugenie have.

Harry is just making documentaries about his life and writing books about his life - for money.

But yes, he will get a lot of money for it. So that will fund them

Beatrix and Eugenie don’t do regular 9 -5 jobs. They seem to free to do whatever they feel like when they like. Very very part time at best.

Kjones27 · 07/03/2024 16:07

They definitely did have full-time jobs. Look up their work history.

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AppleDumplingWithCustard · 07/03/2024 16:12

SaffronSpice · 07/03/2024 13:55

Harry doesn't have a job.

Netflix didn’t give them £100 million contract to kick their heels. He has a very well paid job to use that money to create content for Netflix.

Netflix won’t have given them anything like £100 million. They will have been paid on results. Companies like Netflix aren’t stupid enough to hand over the entire amount at the beginning of a contract before anything has been produced. They probably got around £20 million if that.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 07/03/2024 16:12

Ultimately he fought on the front line for your freedom to right bs about him

I'm sorry, what?? anyone would think he fought WW2 singlehanded.

jötunnn · 07/03/2024 16:24

your freedom to right bs about him’

whaaa? How would we put to right all the bs about him?

SaffronSpice · 07/03/2024 16:24

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 07/03/2024 16:12

Netflix won’t have given them anything like £100 million. They will have been paid on results. Companies like Netflix aren’t stupid enough to hand over the entire amount at the beginning of a contract before anything has been produced. They probably got around £20 million if that.

As I said, it was a £100 million contract not a gift. They would have to provide the agreed output to get the full amount, and whilst they would have paid themselves from that sum it was also needed to produce the output. So most of it would have been needed for production and development costs.