Great news, HRH Princess Kate seen in public today

[DistinguishedSocialCommentator]

The press has published pics of HRH with her mum in mum Audi on a
"school run." HRH was seated in the front passenger seat.

Wishing HRS Kate a speedy recovery!!

Whoever it is, looks nothing like her.

Precisely.
I do think it's Catherine and her face does look a bit puffy. I know steroids are given in lots of different kinds of cases, although I never needed them myself so far. What would they be for?
When you're getting better from something there's always a day when you're ready to walk outside a while and then go another step and ride out before the next dose or nap. It reminds me of Catherine Earnshaw being ill and then feeling better and the window being opened and the breeze from the moor coming into her bedroom. On that lyrical note I'll be hung up by my thumb nails for sins of de-railment.

I remember it well, thank you. The public were indeed baying. It's been written about extensively, there is nothing supercilious about it, it's a factual narrative. They would not let the family grieve in private. Their demands for a public display led to the chain of events that played out as described.

By your own statement above, everything that happened was at the behest of the public - not all mind, just a certain group that are frankly disgusting. Those members of the public could have just used their brains and let a family get on and privately grieve in their own way. They would not and did not stop baying and the events that played out were directly linked to that.

As you said it is rumored it was Blair who wanted the boys to walk behind the coffin. He was at the time the elected representative of the people. So if he asked for the boys to do it he was asking on behalf of the public. Suggesting Blair got it horribly wrong, or that was what the public wanted. It has never been suggested that the Royal Family came up with the idea and insisted on it despite everyone else in the world trying to council them against it.

@Novella4 The queen had been distant (also hadn’t lowered the flag as Diana was no longer ‘royal’) - that was the start of public anger and disgust

Thats not accurate. There wasn’t a lowered flag at Buckingham Palace as there was no flag flown if the monarch isn’t in residence, and the royal standard is never flown at half mast. So there was no flag because the Queen was at Balmoral.

No half mast flag at BP wasn’t remotely unique to Diana and wasn’t because she wasn’t royal.

Well quite hoola

And it wouldn’t be the first time a politician has made a decision to fluff their own petticoat in the name of the ‘people’.

nonsense to both above .

If the PM suggested the boys walk it was to help protect Charles in particular .
There was no demand from the public for this .
There was a demand that the ‘royals ‘ respond. They mishandled the response to Diana’s death as they have mishandled so many other issues . When it goes wrong - blame the plebs

The media were the ones that hyped the public against the royals after Diana’s death.

They were initially getting the blame and had to deflect it somewhere

My post about the flag is not nonsense.

Its absolutely accurate that no flags were flown at half mast at BP for anyone else. It just didn’t happen as only the royal standard was ever flown and it’s never flown at half mast.

Yes, funny how the media has suddenly been forgotten about when the narrative suits.

“Responding to public pressure, Queen Elizabeth eventually decided to lower the Union Jack over Buckingham Palace, a decision that Philip, according to Brown, regarded as a "great humiliation."

This is from Tina Browns book on Philip

It was quite spectacular how, in less than a week, we had people shouting “murderer” at photographers and absolutely blaming the media to the media speculating the fall of the royal family and people blaming them for Diana’s death.

It shows just how much power they have

Yes. She changed protocol and for the first time a flag was put up to be flown at half mast.

The previous decision not to fly one wasn’t because Diana wasn’t royal anymore, as you stated, but because it was something they had never done.

Well said, Kate and Pippa wouldn't be where they are today without their education and their mum pushing them forwards. Pippa certainly wouldn't have married her DH had it not been for the fact that her DSis was marrying Wills. Meghan schemed to be able to marry Harry. But then, throughout history in important families all over the world, that's the way things worked, Anne Boleyn wasn't royal, Anne of Cleves was or was from a noble family.

The rest of them are there by virtue of birth and yes some of them are more palatable than others on a day to day basis but you can't get away from the fact that they're born into a life of privilege. Harry, bless him, has tried to fight against this and change this.

I don't hope there's a divorce with Wills and Kate. I think if anything, Wills would prefer to keep his marriage and do a better job than his parents did. Kate, I'm guessing would put up with a lot but if push came to shove she'd divorce, she'd get a good settlement and Wills would share contact (can't believe I wrote the words re contact!).

I'm actually seeing more having read more that Megs and Haz will stay married compared to e.g. W&K. M&H have less of the pressures than W&K do. I still don't quite believe Megs as she definitely knew who Harry was before she started dating him, so I think she has a tendency to blur lines/her truth. I don't think any of the less of her otherwise though, she took on a gig that was a poisoned chalice from the start and made the best of a bad lot, but now has, quite sensibly I think, decamped abroad. Even though I don't think some of their ventures are the best thought out.

Regardless, me and others think, the RF in it's current state is outdated, can't really change to keep up with the times and it sticks in people's craws when they see them out and about/in recycled (worn more than once) dresses. What value do they add really?

The flag had to be put up specially to be lowered - look at the photos of all the flowers and you can see there was no flag for the majority of the time - as is standard practise at BP.

She doesn't look well.

And (with zero acceptance of the veracity of your assertion) who would the boys have been protecting Charles from? Oh, I know, the baying public. The bunch of thickos who thought he was responsible for his wife's death and wanted to lynch him.

Also @Primrosecottagelover I thought Kate couldn't wear Chanel (at least not in public ] as it's not a British brand. I mean, if it were me, F that, I'd wear what I pleased, from whatever country I pleased.

She's just had a serious operation as I said before - of course she doesn't bloody look well! She's probably only come out today because she knew the press etc are baying for blood and reading different interpretations into why she's been missing. I bet she'd rather be at home watching Netflix/Apple TV and resting up.

Absolutely, I remember this well. Funny that we seem to be having a repeat of the "fall of the RF" narrative again now, too.

@AlbertoDilemma
So the public are ‘thick’ when they have anger toward the ‘royals’?
I assume they aren’t ‘ thick ‘ in your view when they are in their union flag plastic hats ?

The boys were human shields to protect the heir .
Thats the MO

A massive amount of overthinking here, resulting in a few paragraphs of absolute nonsense.

The rumours have done the rounds for weeks and weeks, all over the place. I’m just putting myself in that camp rather than the coma camp etc.

Again, nothing whatsoever to see although I’m pretty underwhelmed by your attack re my views following the death of Diana.

Are you fond of misquoting? I said: "The bunch of thickos who thought he was responsible for his wife's death and wanted to lynch him " If that's an intelligent group of people in your book, then nobody can help you.

Protect the heir from whom? The bunch of baying thickos.

There's not much point in going round and round, is there. It wasn't a bunch of miaowing kittens making demands on the RF then, was it? Charles didn't need a shield (in your strange view) from the London pigeon population dive bombing him. No, it was baying, rabid individuals from the human population with no critical thinking skills.

Sorry, you are accusing me of overthinking when you get imminent divorce from a single grainy photograph of a woman (of uncertain identity) and her mother. I'm sorry your arse was handed to you on the other thread, maybe you should have left it there instead of carrying on on this one.

Media driven drivvel....Paper sales down because POW not about...let's whip the minions into a frenzy so we can get a photo and flog a few more copies ( or hits on websites). Poor woman hounded into putting on a show.