OMG. Lady Gabriella Windsor's husband. I did wonder. TW - suicide

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How bloody tragic, in so many ways. He appears to have shot himself.

This awful news reminded me of Lucy Birley, who committed suicide by shotgun in 2018. And Isabella Blow - where not being able to conceive was certainly a factor.

Coincidentally this story mentions Princess Michael of Kent staying with Isabella Blow and Alexander McQueen, both suicides:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2935658/amp/Did-McQueen-help-drive-woman-death-Isabella-Blow-turned-Alexander-McQueen-fashion-legend-reward-terrible-betrayal.html

I really hate this new format.

I was trying to quote the comment about tell someone with suicidal thoughts how it will destroy the life's of those left behind.

it is such a stupid, thoughtless comment. You won't stop someone taking their own life. You'll make their last moments even worse.

My life was destroyed for a time after a close relative committed suicide. I made a decision eventually to get on with it and I have picked up the pieces but will forever be affected. I will always tell suicidal people my own experience of being left behind (if invited to do so)

Even if they're crying saying everybody would be better off without them? I'm glad I've reminded suicidal people in my life of how much people would miss them.

ToffeeTalk · Yesterday 19:48

This incredibly sad death has nothing to do with William and it would be extraordinarily inappropriate for him to intervene even had he been close to the deceased.

It would have been in spectacular poor taste for William not to go to the memorial of his godfather, because of the tragic death of Thomas, when the man's in-laws put on a brave face and attended!

BirthdayRainbow · Today 17:13

I really hate this new format.

Has there been a format change? I can't quote or edit any more, thought it might be a glitch I was having? So annoying!

The quote thing is new for me as I've been off here years and only back a short time. I could edit once and now can't.

Quote has moved to bottom left now.

If you preview before you post it will let you edit at that stage.

Thank you @upinaballoon

You can edit after you post. Click on the dots at the top

eidted to say the edit is time limited however 😆

Ah, that explains it. I usually notice typos hours later when I reread.

His poor Dad indeed, how frightful. My DH found his best friend / housemate who died by self- inflicted gunshot. He developed PTSD and spent years dealing with it.

On suicide being selfish- my grandpa killed himself (nb, suicide is a legal term which isn't technically appropriate, but I still use it sometimes) age 83. He'd had Alzheimer's for 3 years and had seen what his 2 elder sisters had been through (Alzheimer's & Parkinson's) with their families. I know he did it partly to save his own family going through the same. And to save himself from it.

Nothing selfish there. I'm proud of him. I wouldn't have thought you could ever call suicide rational, but his really was.

Best to his family.

Thanks @upinaballoon! I've been copying and pasting and it's a pain!

I didn't even notice the Quote button - I'm an idiot!!

Dwiddle dwoddle, just to practise the three dots after posting.

Oooooooooooooooo, it does !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I agree with this entirely.

Well said @WombOfOnesOwn

Suicide ''Hotspots'' that occur the World over have found that when the local news publicise suicides, then suicides increase at these places.

Hence many now don't publicise them. Good for them.

Yes but we clarified earlier in the thread that suicide is NOT increasing despite the reduced stigma.