OMG. Lady Gabriella Windsor's husband. I did wonder. TW - suicide

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How bloody tragic, in so many ways. He appears to have shot himself.

Oh poor man- and ghastly for his family and wife.
Mental health has no respect for wealth or status.

Many wealthy people have committed suicide - money doesn’t solve everything
Depression cuts across all levels of society.

It's an inquest. Inquests are public.

Obviously his parents must have suspected/feared this outcome. Why else would a 30 minute absence lead to his father forcing himself into an outbuilding.
very very sad.

Not really, it's just the initial inquest

Maybe this is why Prince William didn't attend that memorial service.

No, the Palace have said its not

Yes, it's a huge house, why would they have expected to know where he was at all times?

Just so awful.

How very sad. I think I read somewhere he was ex forces, perhaps had PTSD maybe as many ex forces do. Just dreadfully sad, thoughts are with his family. Find it odd that her parents went to that memorial service straight after this happened though.

Oh, OK, sorry.

You can be in shock. Emotional shock. I expected to attend a wedding the weekend my father died - just wasn't thinking straight.

Gabriella might have been looking for some alone space to try and begin to get to grips with things in her own head, so maybe 'encouraged' her parents to attend. I'm sure her mother loves her very much but she doesn't seem the easiest person to be around.

I’ve considered suicide before but not gone through with it. It’s actually impossible to describe the despair you feel, colours look different, time feels different, there aren’t actually words to describe it. If you think of the survival instinct humans possess, for something to override it must be incredibly powerful. Hope he rests in peace. Very sad.

I expect it’s to avoid speculation and rumour. And to remind the press even the royals and their circles are also human so they should back off and let them grieve.

No, it's because it's the legal process of an inquest. Inquests are open to the public and media.

How awful. I thought that to report responsibly on suicide the method shouldn’t be mentioned. But perhaps they override this when reporting on an inquest verdict. I know there was speculation that it could be suicide.

The journalists would have absolutely known this when reporting the story on Tuesday, but did not report it, obviously. But inquests do go through the cause of death, and are public.

I know no one's ever supposed to say anything negative about suicide other than that it's sad and people were lonely and in pain, but it certainly seems suicide rates are actually climbing in the "no stigma" era. Stigmatizing suicide may seem cruel and terrible, but rates were far, far lower when it was stigmatized strongly.

I think all of this "just be kind" stuff is not actually helpful. If destigmatizing suicide and talking about it more and heaping pity and "he must have been hurting so much" on the victims was helpful, surely we'd see a downtick in the numbers. But we don't.

I think stigmatizing suicide was a Chesterton's fence. We've taken it down without asking what it was doing, and we've created a scenario where the suicidal see that if they actually complete their attempt, people will speak positively about them and "then they'll all feel sorry."

I'd bet anything you like that this incident will result in an uptick in British suicides. When does "being nice" stop being nice?

So what’s the solution then? Make it a bit more taboo than it is?

I think you may be seeing correlation but we can't say that it is causation. This lack of stigma around suicide is also at a time when (just off the top of my head) social media, lack of privacy, increasing financial pressures (across the spectrum) apply. Maybe not in this case but certainly to the other social classes.

An interesting point. Suicide seems quite selfish to me but of course understandable at the same time.

I did too, in the past, as a teenager.( Long time ago now)
You are correct- Depression is awful, colours lack depth - everything seems grey.
Leaden weight in the chest.

For someone to actually follow through -
They will be in very desperate emotional pain.

They won’t be thinking straight, or about the terrible grief their suicide will cause to their friends and family- or children.

Are suicide rates going up? Since when? They’re marginally lower now than in 2000 and even lower than in the 1980s.

The line is definitely trending down, which doesn’t support your hypothesis that reducing the stigma increases suicide rates.

Of course Suicide seems selfish when one considers the trauma and grief of those left behind-
But people who are suicidal aren’t thinking straight.

I know someone who survived by the skin of their teeth- they said they are very glad to have a second chance at life.

I do feel very sorry for those caught up in a suicide ( innocent bystanders unable to do anything) as it seriously traumatises them, too.

( Obviously won’t go into details).