NYPD: Harry and Meghan were ‘recklessly’chased by paparazzi through New York

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Apparently there is enough to arrest two individuals as well.

"Paparazzi did chase Prince Harry and Meghan Markle “recklessly” through New York last year, police have confirmed.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex said at the time that they and Meghan’s mother Doria Ragland narrowly avoided a “catastrophic” crash while being pursued by paparazzi after leaving the Women of Vision Awards at Manhattan’s Ziegfeld Ballroom on 16 May. [...]

However, in a hearing at the High Court on Wednesday, a judge revealed New York City Police did investigate the car chase and found paparazzi did display “persistently dangerous and unacceptable behaviour”.

"Investigation confirms Harry, Meghan, Doria were recklessly endangered in NY

Well I’m in good company, the judge also thought it wasn’t relevant and didn’t change their current security set-up with the home office off the back of it 😊

Disagreeing is absolutely fine, I actually agree with some of your points anyway. Yes let’s, nothing to be gained from hashing it out 🙃

Of course they do, however, I'd be very surprised if any high profile celebrity's security detail would advise them to bail out and get in a taxi. By doing that they not only put themselves at greater risk but also the taxi driver as I doubt he would have had any training or experience in evasive driving. It's quite a selfish thing to do actually.

Yes I thought that detail had been made up - I was shocked to learn they really had commandeered a cab in that manner. It’s unreal their security team or they themselves saw nothing wrong about it. That’s def reckless behaviour!

And if his security team had been reckless in other ways too, of course they’re going to exaggerate the event in a way to throw heat off themselves. So many self serving parties.

It was described as near catastrophic, not necessarily in relation to Harry and Meghan, but pedestrians and other road users.

Any chase, in a busy city, has the potential to be catastrophic.

Maybe it was referring to the civilian cab driver too - he was suddenly in a high stakes scenario

I agree totally @jötunnn !

Thank you ☺️

Harry seems to think his station in life affords him immunity from laws, rulings and apparently the truth too!

Learning more about his security team behaved with such disregard for how the other road users and pedestrians were impacted, it does paint Harry in a certain light!

The paps too of course - goes without saying. But that’s that it means to be a celebrity, unfortunately. It’s a symbiotic relationship - celebs need that kind of media attention so they can be elevated and remain within that exclusive sphere.

{Learning more about his security team behaved with such disregard for how the other road users and pedestrians were impacted, it does paint Harry in a certain light!}

This needs to be mentioned more @jötunnn !

I’ll try and find the link

This

Very illuminating @jötunnn !
Always seems to be more to the story than it appears at first glance!

Thank @MrsFinkelstein she’s great at contextualising, and is balanced and fair

No doubt! , she's a factual star!🌟

I don't think he controls the new york high court.
There's no such place and the statement came from NYPD.

Yes the gas lighting was weird and unnecessary. Whilst lecturing me about my comprehension skills. At least it was better than the strange veiled threats to deter me from posting 😂 Or maybe they really thought the NYPD had fused with the high court in a weird reality blip.

Some people seem disappointed that NYPD have acknowledged that Harry and Meghan were put at risk by paparazzi behaviour...

... which given the media and discussion board absolute obsession with them should surprise exactly no-one.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nypd-letter-supports-prince-harry-meghan-markles-claims-victims-reckle-rcna141180

Well there you go then. Interesting to see what the people who were making fun of this say..

There are interesting questions emerging regarding the 06/12/2023 letter. Anomalies.

[The Sussex’s ] reluctance to go to the planned stop, with paparazzi, was a contributing factor. Harry has been insistent someone be arrested — that requires evidence which we don’t have at this time,” said another source, referencing how the NYPD and royals conferred during that incident about a planned destination where cops could control the traffic flow."

Remember that the mayor, the police and the paparazzi themselves have confirmed they drove through red lights, drove on the pavement and sped intermittently in pursuit to get their pictures. Driving on the pavement and through red lights would be considered dangerous and potentially fatal in all other circumstances except when it comes to this one it seems. The security team appeared to have misjudged the situation and perhaps they were worried that a planned stop wouldn’t guarantee that the paparazzi wouldn’t evade the traffic flow area. They certainly were struggling to shake them. From the letter, it appears that the NYPD have changed some of their process to make sure something like this doesn’t happen again and it appears that H&M and their security team have also learned from this based on their observable behaviours since.

Oh really?

No arrests were made or charges bought.

I think I’d probably file the NYPD letter under ‘D for diplomatic.

Some people will say anything to justify slagging off Harry and/or Meghan, and won't accept what even the NYPD say, says a lot.

The paps got their shots of them entering and leaving the event. That should have been enough, there was zero need to pursue them for more photos, or attempt to find oit where they were residing, when they obviously did not want them know.

That the NYPD Lead engaged in evasive driving, NYPD conducted such an investigation and referred it to the DA, and changed protocols specific to Harry and Meghan, speaks volumes.

I think Harry was in NY after for Stephen Colbert, and it seemed the new procedures put in place worked.

In paragraph 135 of the judgment, Justice Lane says that Ms Fatima KC (one of Harry’s legal team) "...produced a copy of a letter dated December 6 2023 from the Chief of Intelligence in the New York City Police Department." The name of this person is not included in the judgment, however they are referred to as "he" in the next paragraph.

Thomas Galati held the position of the NYPD Chief of Intelligence and Counterterrorism. Chief Galati stepped down in March 2023.

In July 2023, Chief Galati was replaced by Rebecca Weiner, whose job title is given as Deputy Commissioner, Intelligence & Counterterrorism.

The letter is confusing because the incident happened in May 2023, i.e. after the 'Chief of Intelligence' (and Counterterrorism) had stepped down.

Although unusual, It's possible that an error was made in the judgment with regards to reproducing the correct job title. It's less likely the person who sent the letter made a mistake with their own job title.

I've seen some media reports suggesting the name of the person who sent the letter on behalf of the NYPD was John B. Hart. This name isn't mentioned in the judgment at all. If it was him, his job title is 'Commanding Officer - Intelligence Division'. I doubt he would incorrectly sign off a letter as the 'Chief of Intelligence'.

It will be interesting to see if the NYPD clarify who provided the letter.

‘Some people will say anything to justify slagging off Harry and/or Meghan, and won't accept what even the NYPD say, says a lot.’

Who are these ‘people’?
And by say anything, do you mean hold different opinions to you and interpret information differently to you?
’says a lot’ What does it say?

It will be interesting to see if the NYPD clarify who provided the letter

It will indeed

As said elsewhere I strongly suspect there's more to come out about this very conveniently timed letter, so will wait to see what happens before commenting

Edited to say thanks, too, for the clarification on the role titles; I'd read the judgement myself and this bit didn't seem to make sense, so your summary was very helpful