That car chase

[kirinm]

www.thedailybeast.com/prince-harry-and-meghan-markle-actually-were-dangerously-chased-in-manhattan-nypd-says

So they weren't lying and instead the NYPD were lying.

I wonder if this will be picked up by any of the papers here.

Yes he managed to avoid getting them cancelled by not stepping down from royal duties. Great he has access to competent staff. Harry chose to leave, the court case has revealed it was explained that would be a consequence.

Why doesn’t Harry have competent security? He’s a successful media businessman now, if the hired staff weren’t up to scratch, buck stops with him. He hired them.

William also doesn’t make a habit of going to rent-a-celeb events hosted in locations outside of the Uk, and his wife isn’t known for tipping off the paparazzi thereby ramping up risk by chasing that sweet sweet limelight.

William managed to go jogging in Central Park last year without a near catastrophic dog chase or buggy collision.

Also, it’s more because William doesn’t tend to release similar hyperbolic statements, claiming to be in catastrophic car chases

Did he? no photos of that was there?

Yes it does have a speed limit of 40 but like most rules, it is happily broken by some.

Having lived in Manhattan for 10 years I can assure that it is possible to get to 80 on the FDR and does happen.

I do not know why people are so wide eyed as to believe that this could not happen? A motorbike, moped or a car can easily get to 80 mph and quite quickly nowadays - in fact it is a selling feature of motorised vehicles.

I saw a young man walk casually behind a woman on 1st ave, grab her phone (she was texting at a bus stop) and bag. Out of nowwhere three mopeds raced to him reeving up, he jumped on, they drove away at very high speed, up a one way street. The noise and chaos were really scary. The speed was terrifying.

It is the chaos which creates the potiential for things to go wrong.

The Sussex' problem is they obfuscate, exaggerate and lie so often they are no longer believed about anything

No, because he’s not on speed dial with Backgrid.

It is extremely rare for that to happen in Manhattan. That is why the police were taken by surprise. It is an atypical behaviour for the NY paps. They would have done their palnning around that knowledge. Notice it has not happened since

So - who were the paps and who were they working for?

If someone really despised toxic celebrity culture and all the trappings, paparazzi, invasion of privacy, the media outlets they don’t like, etc. They could just stop chasing fame.

I believe them.

I also believe the police report on this incidence.

We’ve had other posters on other threads also share their first hand eye witness accounts of that exact street. Their accounts contradict your version quite strongly. All anecdotal evidence taken with a 🤏 of 🧂

Er, what? Whistler, anybody?

Please re read what I wrote. I said they rarely go to publicised events together anymore. Think about the last time you saw them both at a pre publicised event before Whistler. Invictus 2023. The last time before that was the Women of Vision awards. Everytime they have appeared in public since then has been a surprise if they appeared together(like the Costner gala or the movie premiere) or they have gone alone for something pre planned (for example WellChild and the aviation thing for Harry and the Power of Women thing for Meghan). They definitely changed.

‘I also believe the police report on this incidence.’

So do I. It does still stand Harry and his team exaggerated. It didn’t swing his court case anyhow so I’m sure even he’s lost interest in this rabbit hole. As have I.

If that’s true I’m glad to hear it. A lot of what happened at that event could have been avoided. That’s why at the time people were cynical, why put themselves in that position, and then try to use it to swing a trial, whilst also exaggerating it up to make it more hard hitting. They released the statement and it was transparent why. It still didn’t help their trial though.

I’m glad they’re now following procedures and keeping themselves safe. Good 👍

I appreciate that you see it from that angle and little will shake your point of view.

In my opinion, they do not chase fame. He seems keen to get things on public record - that seems wise and sane to me.

She seems like a fairly normal, smart, acomplished, charming, middle class American woman.

Whatever they do does not merit the sustained othering they get - imo.

I will never understand why we get our knickers in so much of a twist.

Well dear Checken what can I say?

You do you!

Next time you are in Manhattan take a little walk by the FDR or better yet take the East River Ferry. You will see what I mean.

The reason people plausibly suspect that the car chase was a ploy is that they’ve shown form for attempting to manipulate public opinion time and again.

The emails and testimony about the plotting that went into the letter Meghan’s sent to her father and then released publicly. Down to having a discussion about how she chose the word “Daddy” to “pull at heart strings.” Public heart strings, not her father’s. That was for you, folks!

The details shared about how they sent Omid Scobie ibfo for Finding Freedom and then denied any collaboration.

We can find more evidence of this but do you really need it? How many times do you have to be get proof and admission that someone has plotted to manipulate you before you begin viewing them with skepticism?

My knickers aren’t in a twist I assure you. I haven’t made any little remarks of this nature in regard to you or other posters. I’ve kept on topic. You seem to be a fan of theirs, I’m basing this on how you’ve described them warmly. You’ve also stated you think they are constantly othered. If you view all commentary about them through that prism, everything is then impacted by that exact bias. It doesn’t leave room for real discussion or the grey.

I am a poc myself, I’m not othering them. I neither like or dislike them. My bias is a distaste for entitled behaviour and vacuous celebrity culture in general. So I find it easier to call them out, they aren’t on a pedestal for me. But I also hope they learn, stop taking stupid risks and stay safe.

You can definitely drive 80 on FDR, I’ve seen it and probably did it myself once or twice.

It doesn’t lend any credibility to this having been a scary car chase for me.

I find your posts amusing, in a nice way, and I like that you’re polite.

I hope my posts to you didn’t seem abrasive, I’m multi tasking so eyes half on the phone 🙂

That is your conclusion, others think that there is much twisting of things in the media to create a narrative that they are liars because they are suing the same media. The royals let them because it also helps them. Different people will see the same things differently, that does not necessarily mean you are right.

I’m aware.

But my opinions are pretty wholly formed on their own behavior and first hand accounts.

These examples I gave above come from court evidence and testimony. Meghan’s own writing and admissions to the court. Meghan admitting that she gave parts of this letter to her friends to US tabloids.

Good points. The Sussex’ (is that correct? Looks wrong) aren’t wide eyed innocents, or far removed m from the rest of the grubby world of celebrity. They’re all there, in the mud together, pulling various pr tricks to suit their own goals. All of them, the Sussex’, the rest of their royal family, the media companies, etc. They know what they’re doing and it’s to serve their own needs. It appears In this case Harry thought it would secure him even greater preferential treatment and more funded security. He is a very typical type of a very rich person, they are very loathe to spend their own! They’re very good at getting others to pick up the tab. His family are known penny pinchers when they don’t have to be. He sounds the same, hai inheritance it to save and keep apparently! Of course if he can cross off paying his own security he will try his luck. It’s backfired - good! Nice to a see a privledged elite not win at taking advantage for once! A hollow win really as we are still paying and he does get special treatment In his deal anyway!

You assertions are backed with hard evidence and I have a lot of time for your assessment, and agree with you a lot.

(forgive the horrific typos! Too many to go and fix)

And M&H were supposed to exit that NY thing in the same way they arrived - through the Hertz car hire back entrance. But they changed plans to make a public appearance at the front. Their right, of course, but not a move commensurate with seeking privacy and avoiding waiting photographers and paparazzi.

If they had wanted to slip off I observed to stay at the friend’s apartment that would have been easily achievable.