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Harry’s security case

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smilesy · 28/02/2024 11:21

The judgment is in Harry loses High Court challenge over UK security protection www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68421992 See here

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Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 13:39

Harry has been refused leave to appeal .
But he has been given a 10% discount in his legal fees .

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 13:48

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 13:39

Harry has been refused leave to appeal .
But he has been given a 10% discount in his legal fees .

Does he have a card that gets stamped every time he brings a court case like you get in coffee shops? sort of a 'bring nine libel cases, get 10% off the fees for the tenth one'?

smilesy · 15/04/2024 13:54

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 13:48

Does he have a card that gets stamped every time he brings a court case like you get in coffee shops? sort of a 'bring nine libel cases, get 10% off the fees for the tenth one'?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2024 13:55

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 13:39

Harry has been refused leave to appeal .
But he has been given a 10% discount in his legal fees .

Sounds reasonable

I see that, reportedly, the Home Office were sanctioned for failing to provide details of some "other types" of VIPs they protect, which naturally is being claimed by Harry's team to be crucial to his case

Wonder if he'll start the whole thing up again on that basis?

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 13:59

Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2024 13:55

Sounds reasonable

I see that, reportedly, the Home Office were sanctioned for failing to provide details of some "other types" of VIPs they protect, which naturally is being claimed by Harry's team to be crucial to his case

Wonder if he'll start the whole thing up again on that basis?

Can he do that ? Where is @Serenster when we need her ??

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 13:59

I'd speculate that those VIPs are probably rather more important than Harry and that the reason their details weren't provided was because it would compromise their security.

Where DO you get a sense of entitlement like his? it's titanic, isn't it?

smilesy · 15/04/2024 14:01

Yes I’m confused too. Is this a document that was published after the original trial that has only emerged now, or is it a new one? If the former, then it seems he was refused leave to appeal straight away. So what was all that “we will appeal” about in that case?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 15/04/2024 14:02

I don't have the knowledge to say if Harry "could" do this or not, but doubt it'll stop him trying if he feels like it Hmm

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 14:19

It must be a huge shock to Harry that people are saying No to him .

IcedPurple · 15/04/2024 14:31

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 13:39

Harry has been refused leave to appeal .
But he has been given a 10% discount in his legal fees .

Where did you read this? It's not coming up in my news searches.

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 14:52

And another . The Times.

Harry’s security case
IcedPurple · 15/04/2024 15:01

Thanks for the links.

I never thought he had much chance for an appeal and probably his lawyers knew that too. It was probably a face saving thing.

As for the 'discount', does this mean that he will be on the hook for most of the legal costs? I hope so, as this was taxpayers' money. Even with a 'discount', it will be well into the hundreds of thousands. Was it worth it? Even if the Judicial Review had been successful, all that would have happened is that his file would be returned to the Home Office for review. And as the judge said, it's highly likely they'd have come to the same decision all over again.

OneHeartySnail · 15/04/2024 15:02

So, multi-millionaire Harry gets 10% off legal costs, to be paid for by us plebs?

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/04/2024 15:08

He asked for a 50-60% discount on costs, even though he lost. 10% seems fair if the Home Office created a situation where Hazza's team were put at a time/costs disadvantage, but where the missing information was ultimately inconsequential to the strength of his case.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 15:10

He asked for a 50-60% discount on costs, even though he lost

Like I said, where DO you get a sense of entitlement like that?

OneHeartySnail · 15/04/2024 15:13

Surely it depends WHY the info wasn't provided? Can't be arsed - hammer them. Because it would affect the security of the others? Surely that should be allowed?

Of course there are numerous options in between.

Mymilkshakebringsallthepapstomycar · 15/04/2024 15:19

I think the sense of entitlement comes, not from his immense privilege, but from his sense of victimhood and being hard done by. IMO, he believes the UK owes him a huge favour for the loss of his mother. And in that sense, nothing will ever be good enough for him.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 15:37

IMO his entitlement and victimhood comes from not being the heir; because obvs he'd be SO much better at it.

Vespanest · 15/04/2024 15:46

His entitlement in this one is that is a few public speaking events he’s going to have to do to cover the money lost. Especially if he’s still planning on taking it further. I’d like to know the balance sheet of his litigation, he’s probably paying double the rates of the home office.

Mylovelygreendress · 15/04/2024 15:51

Legally speaking, is this the end of the road ?

underscorer · 15/04/2024 15:53

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 15/04/2024 15:10

He asked for a 50-60% discount on costs, even though he lost

Like I said, where DO you get a sense of entitlement like that?

To be fair, in all these things you have to ask for more than you realistically think you're entitled to, so I don't blame him for that. He is a spoilt, petulant knob though.

Vespanest · 15/04/2024 16:39

I’d guess Harry would swap the victories he has had in litigation for this one, if this one had been successful I think it would eventually lead to the argument if he requires full time police security in the UK then he deserves it around the world. The times is placing a million figure, then his fees, any future cost if he carries on and the already loss of IPP and his security costs yearly. I can see why they’re so busy now.

IcedPurple · 15/04/2024 17:10

Vespanest · 15/04/2024 16:39

I’d guess Harry would swap the victories he has had in litigation for this one, if this one had been successful I think it would eventually lead to the argument if he requires full time police security in the UK then he deserves it around the world. The times is placing a million figure, then his fees, any future cost if he carries on and the already loss of IPP and his security costs yearly. I can see why they’re so busy now.

Didn't he also lose a libel case about supposedly 'offering' to pay' for policy security? That will cost him too.

He has only spent a total of maybe a few months in Britain over the past 4 years. And when he comes for official events or is on royal properties, he will be provided with security, as indeed he would on any occasion if RAVEC consider it appropriate.

I really do think this is all about ego and status for him. He wants what his brother has. A costly ego trip.

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