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The royal family

Prince William's Absence (Part Two)

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MaggieFS · 28/02/2024 09:42

Following on from this glorious thread

William just pulled out of event due to personal reasons http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/theroyall_family/5017144-william-just-pulled-out-of-event-due-to-personal-reasons

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CraftyTaupeOtter · 29/02/2024 00:53

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 29/02/2024 00:45

The PP said

and losing his shit at inanimate objects back in the early 2000s

which means it happened then. Not that she heard about it then.

Doesn't really matter but that's not 'just after losing his mother', as described. Howver, for a significant loss, 3-5 years is nothing at all. Who knows what could have been going on for him that day, related or not?

Bringtheweatherwithyou · 29/02/2024 00:56

CraftyTaupeOtter · 29/02/2024 00:53

Doesn't really matter but that's not 'just after losing his mother', as described. Howver, for a significant loss, 3-5 years is nothing at all. Who knows what could have been going on for him that day, related or not?

Yeah he supposedly has a temper so having a strop about various things is probably a regular occurrence.

The notion that excuses have to be made for ever more because they lost their mother when they were young is really wearing thin.
Thousands of kids lose a parent or two parents every year with very little support. William was surrounded by support. . Other people don’t get a ‘pass’.

ItsAllAboutTheDosh · 29/02/2024 00:56

@Strawberriesandpears The Queen was 96 when she died and William is now 41 years old. Many peoples grandparents die when they are younger than William was. And many grandparents do not live to the grand old age that Elizabeth and Philip did. But most of us grieve and get on with life.

jötunnn · 29/02/2024 01:02

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Not true. The H&M brigade are all over this thread, loving all the conspiracy theories about w&k. Spectre8 has valiantly been trying to to shoehorn m&h at any opportunity on this thread but their posts kept getting deleted.

There was another thread about Kate with made up fake headlines and extracts from Twitter, maybe that’s what they were referring to when talking about bots.

Olidora · 29/02/2024 01:13

Am going to bed . Have been out looking for dog! Now in her bed 😂Genuinely think everyone should calm down! We will all see Kate looking lovely at Easter.

Tatonka · 29/02/2024 01:22

KnittedCardi · 28/02/2024 11:27

You know what? All conspiracies aside, and oh they have nannies etc. What if, for example, one of the kids was bullied really badly, fell over and hurt themselves, was terribly sick at school. With Kate out of action, I would assume William would go into Dad mode and go and sort it out. Hence him being seen driving out of the grounds.

How ridiculous, I doubt their kids would be bullied. I'm sure they're part of the popular crowd! 🙄

dandeliondandy · 29/02/2024 01:45

millie101 · 28/02/2024 13:55

It may well be due to the security implications of Thomas Kingston's untimely and very unexpected death? If so key members of the RF would be under heightened security. It would explain why little was divulged since pulling out of a public appearance at short notice. Although the official line on Kingson's death on Sunday eve, is that no foul play was noted, they are still doing an enquiry into his death. It all seems too coincidental timing wise. If security services expect any element of a security breach, they will be locking down. And if we are on that line of thinking, for all we know Kate could also have received very credible threats that forced her of the public eye for a period while investigations happen. I mean, who knows..? PA acted the giddy goat at the service could be a foil by the now lesser-member of the RF to throw the public off the scent...? Ok, I think I've exhausted every conceivable plotline here! ;-)

Why on earth do you think there would be 'security implications' for William because his second cousin once removed's husband had died suddenly? Also, there will always be an enquiry if an otherwise fit and healthy person has died suddenly and unexpectedly. The coroner will open a case, a post-mortem ill be carried out and there will be an inquest.

Kate8889 · 29/02/2024 02:55

Tatonka · 29/02/2024 01:22

How ridiculous, I doubt their kids would be bullied. I'm sure they're part of the popular crowd! 🙄

I mean, Charles was, why not the Wales kids?

Tatonka · 29/02/2024 03:03

Kate8889 · 29/02/2024 02:55

I mean, Charles was, why not the Wales kids?

Well he's a bit awkward and not particularly attractive

EchoChamber · 29/02/2024 04:22

JCLV · 28/02/2024 23:52

William looks like he has the weight of the world on his shoulders in recent photos. He looks stressed, nervy and has lost weight. I’m sure he isn’t throwing a ‘strop’. He is trying to cope with a sick wife and a father with cancer. He probably thought he has years before he would be king and suddenly it could be on the horizon. I feel sorry for him.

I agree with this. The lack of compassion is quite depressing. He is in a very isolated position really, and one few of us can really truly understand. If Charles dies he has lost all his immediate family and is faced with becoming King without the support and guidance of more experienced senior members. Anne would no doubt be supportive but they don’t seem close or much in tune. Who is he going to turn to? Kate isn’t born into it . He needs someone older and wiser, someone he trusts to lean on. Charles doesn’t strike me as that person really. The Queen had her mother and sister to rely on. She leaned on them heavily. When William becomes King he’s going to have to be his own counsel . It’s a lonely role to perform in isolation.

EchoChamber · 29/02/2024 04:34

Karadis · 29/02/2024 00:06

I think this is true. I know Kate VERY slightly, through several other people - but we're not friends, I am not in recent contact with her, and my scrap of knowledge comes second hand, but from an overlapping social/familial network.

This - from my tiny, minuscule flakes of knowledge - is probably approaching the truth, but it's impact - if any whatsoever - on the current circumstances is a separate thing entirely.

I have wondered about this. The reality of seeing how being Royal really affects your dearly beloved children. strictures, protocol, expectation, stuffiness,
rigidity. They can’t have friends round like other kids, or go to their parties without security . They can’t go in normal holidays. George can’t choose what he wants to do in life, he’s bound to a role he may not be suited to at all. Having to spend Xmas with a sex offender with very dubious morals and his grabby ex wife. Having to be scrutinised in the press on an ongoing basis . Having mud slung from across the Atlantic and not being able to answer back. Ever.
Being called lazy constantly. Your husbands assumed unfaithfulness being constantly gossiped about .

Meanwhile, you watch your sisters kids grow up without all that . Feeling guilty that your own children’s choices will be so limited in comparison. Seeing your children’s cousins able to live free of scrutiny , two of whom have no connections with their Royal roots, free to grow up without any restrictions at all. I can see how all of this would wear a person down.

EchoChamber · 29/02/2024 04:40

DreamTheMoors · 28/02/2024 23:18

I don’t believe any of the nutty conspiracy theories around Catherine. I think she’s convalescing and that’s it.
But considering all the times William has used, or rather had photos taken of himself with his children, where are the Wales children?
That makes me worry a bit - you’d think just because Catherine is indisposed, William and their children would carry on in her absence.

He probably wants to protect them from scrutiny at a difficult time for them. They’ll be upset about their mother. It’s not hard to understand is it?

Primrosecottagelover · 29/02/2024 04:45

Quizine · 28/02/2024 20:43

I think the Monarchy is reaching its natural end. The late Queen kept it all together and had a profound sense of duty, and she brought stability to her reign.

The King is very well meaning but ineffectual in keeping his Royal descendants (and his errant brother A) in line. He is not very well himself although putting a brave face on things.

The current crop of H, W, K, M, and all the other alphabet soup in and out of the RF are a different breed now. There doesn't appear to be anyone steering the ship anymore. So rebels will peel off and do their own thing. Well if the King can't tell them to F off and do your duty, I suppose they can do their own thing if they wish.

I hope I'm wrong though, so we shall see.

Completely agree.

What doesn’t make sense is that William could still support his wife and children and make appearances by working casually. He could do one impromptu radio appearance or a video from home, on an important issue & still have impact & media coverage with minimal time away. He could have represented the King at the church service but arrived late & left walking out with the Greek royal family/made arrangements to sweetly escort one of them out if PA was the issue.

The idea he has to make 3 appearances in 3 months to support his wife, makes no sense. The whole ‘his wife comes first’ makes no sense. He’s the future King of England, his Dad is down & he’s meant to be a symbol of fortitude and resilience as a leader. At the moment the royal family are just a reminder of mortality & fragility.

The comment about him having to juggle left me feeling so annoyed. I heard this as I was driving to pick my son up and cancelling something because I have little to no support network. They and really anyone privileged have no idea & are in a world of their own.

The Queen had an amazing work ethic and was born into her role but over the years proved she’d also earned it.

Why are Edward & Sophie off on a ski trip ?

Prince Andrew was at a family funeral but in the context of what is happening at the moment, he is seen by the worlds media as “holding down the fort” & the reality is that those photos are being beamed all over the world.

Kate8889 · 29/02/2024 04:46

EchoChamber · 29/02/2024 04:22

I agree with this. The lack of compassion is quite depressing. He is in a very isolated position really, and one few of us can really truly understand. If Charles dies he has lost all his immediate family and is faced with becoming King without the support and guidance of more experienced senior members. Anne would no doubt be supportive but they don’t seem close or much in tune. Who is he going to turn to? Kate isn’t born into it . He needs someone older and wiser, someone he trusts to lean on. Charles doesn’t strike me as that person really. The Queen had her mother and sister to rely on. She leaned on them heavily. When William becomes King he’s going to have to be his own counsel . It’s a lonely role to perform in isolation.

There's Edward, and I don't think one needs to be super close to mentor, in fact it can help to have a distance, so Anne might be a good choice

Justfinking · 29/02/2024 05:16

I find many of these comments so OTT. They're a very privileged family, and don't have to do very much. They're basically a glorified charity head. I have no doubt monarchs before had it tougher, now not so much. Save the sympathy for people who actually need it.

Itsallok · 29/02/2024 05:23

Justfinking · 29/02/2024 05:16

I find many of these comments so OTT. They're a very privileged family, and don't have to do very much. They're basically a glorified charity head. I have no doubt monarchs before had it tougher, now not so much. Save the sympathy for people who actually need it.

Absolutely. Can we just drop the idea that either Kate and William do any hard yakka in the parenting stakes or indeed any stakes. They have vast amounts of help.

Newchapterbeckons · 29/02/2024 05:32

Primrosecottagelover · 29/02/2024 04:45

Completely agree.

What doesn’t make sense is that William could still support his wife and children and make appearances by working casually. He could do one impromptu radio appearance or a video from home, on an important issue & still have impact & media coverage with minimal time away. He could have represented the King at the church service but arrived late & left walking out with the Greek royal family/made arrangements to sweetly escort one of them out if PA was the issue.

The idea he has to make 3 appearances in 3 months to support his wife, makes no sense. The whole ‘his wife comes first’ makes no sense. He’s the future King of England, his Dad is down & he’s meant to be a symbol of fortitude and resilience as a leader. At the moment the royal family are just a reminder of mortality & fragility.

The comment about him having to juggle left me feeling so annoyed. I heard this as I was driving to pick my son up and cancelling something because I have little to no support network. They and really anyone privileged have no idea & are in a world of their own.

The Queen had an amazing work ethic and was born into her role but over the years proved she’d also earned it.

Why are Edward & Sophie off on a ski trip ?

Prince Andrew was at a family funeral but in the context of what is happening at the moment, he is seen by the worlds media as “holding down the fort” & the reality is that those photos are being beamed all over the world.

I really agree with this. One has to hope in many ways it IS extremely serious, because if it’s not and William has taken three months off with his team of staff,, and bailed out of important memorials then public goodwill will simply evaporate.

Those saying come Easter she will simply bounce back on the scene with no explanation, seem to underestimate what the public backlash is likely to be. If William tries to play the mental health card like his brother then clearly the role of king will be too much for him, and a major overhaul will be required.

I doubt the public or the media will take too kindly to months of silence for something totally run of the mill, when people are dying in hospital corridors and mental health provision for children in dire need is non existent.

For their own sake they need to change course. Either be honest about the severity of the situation or get back to bloody work like the rest of us and stop bleating.

Justfinking · 29/02/2024 05:37

Itsallok · 29/02/2024 05:23

Absolutely. Can we just drop the idea that either Kate and William do any hard yakka in the parenting stakes or indeed any stakes. They have vast amounts of help.

Exactly, and if they really didn't want the job they could quit. The Queen, and I'm sure also Charles were duty bound, I doubt William etc feel the same way. I'm playing the world's most smallest violin here 🤢

Lelophants · 29/02/2024 06:03

Olidora · 28/02/2024 23:09

Because there is absolutely nothing to report! Only SM and MN are hoping there is a drama 🤦‍♀️

If there was nothing then there’d be an article on the ridiculous conspiracy theories.
The RF (bar Harry and meghan) are actually very protected by the media.

spriots · 29/02/2024 06:04

Kate8889 · 29/02/2024 04:46

There's Edward, and I don't think one needs to be super close to mentor, in fact it can help to have a distance, so Anne might be a good choice

The Queen was 25 when she became Queen. William will be at least 41.

He has had literally decades as an adult to learn the ropes. If he hasn't by now, no mentoring is going to help

Lelophants · 29/02/2024 06:10

Wait so now it’s because the kids are getting bullied 🤣

William might just be struggling mentally with Kate’s illness (which could definitely be ED/MH), Charles’s diagnosis, potentially some grief still at losing his grandparents, what this means for his future and being at a memorial service. Doesn’t surprise me at all! For all we know he had a panic attack and had to go.

And so the media have an agreement to leave them alone for a bit so they don’t all explode. It’s a lot.

Lelophants · 29/02/2024 06:12

spriots · 29/02/2024 06:04

The Queen was 25 when she became Queen. William will be at least 41.

He has had literally decades as an adult to learn the ropes. If he hasn't by now, no mentoring is going to help

Agreed but he might just be having a tough time, despite knowing all the practicalities. Seeing Harry get out might be rubbing salt in the whole thing. He’s still a human and he has no escape and a sick wife (or potentially abducted by drug traffickers wife).

Newchapterbeckons · 29/02/2024 06:15

Lelophants · 29/02/2024 06:12

Agreed but he might just be having a tough time, despite knowing all the practicalities. Seeing Harry get out might be rubbing salt in the whole thing. He’s still a human and he has no escape and a sick wife (or potentially abducted by drug traffickers wife).

We all have tough times, and we can’t rage 3 months off!

spriots · 29/02/2024 06:18

Newchapterbeckons · 29/02/2024 06:15

We all have tough times, and we can’t rage 3 months off!

Also isn't 3 months with two public engagements kind of an indication that he does get the ability to "escape"? Not permanently obviously but he and Kate take.tons of time off at the best of times, have a lot of privacy at Anmer and go on many amazing holidays.

I dunno, it doesn't seem that awful to me as a life

Spectre8 · 29/02/2024 06:57

jötunnn · 29/02/2024 01:02

Not true. The H&M brigade are all over this thread, loving all the conspiracy theories about w&k. Spectre8 has valiantly been trying to to shoehorn m&h at any opportunity on this thread but their posts kept getting deleted.

There was another thread about Kate with made up fake headlines and extracts from Twitter, maybe that’s what they were referring to when talking about bots.

Edited

Stop exaggerating by using words like valiantly trying? Seriously! How many times did I try ...please tell me? Yeah hardly any. I was asking one person something and all that did was show the hypocrisy that goes on, well it turns out it was more than that but to be honest it was hardly surprising.

But great to see you are following me around and reading all my posts I'm flattered you choose to spend your time doing so 😉

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