What's the deal with Andrew and Fergie?

[TigerOnTour]

Does anyone know? Are they a couple, or just good friends? I know they live next to each other. Doesn't Fergie have the Queen's Corgies?

She's a tabloid royal correspondent - you'll see the piece she's correcting is also tabloid.

She's basically right. All Balmoral properties belong to the monarch. They can be assigned for use by a specific person, but not owned by them.

I've no idea where the Waleses prefer to stay these days when at Balmoral

Edited to add: and yes you do get pages of weird crap that persist online even when inaccurate and thoroughly demonstrated to be wrong

Some of the publications weren't weird crap and are oft quoted here!

So the cottage wasn't given to William then....
I thought Balmoral was their personal property as opposed to being part of the Crown estate. Like Sandringham. I dont understand about not owning them when they do

Not that it matters, he's got enough properties to be going on with I would say!

Balmoral was QE2's personal property and left on her death to Charles as new monarch. He owns the big house and all the smaller properties and cottages on the Balmoral estate. So William cannot own a cottage there because Charles owns the whole estate.

Who know where the Wales stay when they go but even if they always stay in the same cottage there and it is deemed 'their usual cottage' it is still owned by the monarch.

They don't own Adelaide Cottage, either. But the point is that between property they own and property they have the use of, they are more than adequately housed.

I’m sick of seeing the pair of them, he looked delighted to be leading them all at that memorial service - not respectful at all - and while I’m sorry she’s ill I’ve no interest in seeing her in the limelight, or her rather pointless daughters come to that. I hope the senior members being out of action isn’t used as an excuse for this lot to be foisted on us at any given opportunity.

Where did she live for years before being friends with / living together with him again?
It's almost like they are two loners that have no one else.. bizzare. His smug face constantly.
What's he done for last 25 years...

The thing about Andrew that many younger Mnetters probably don’t realise or are not old enough to remember is when he was younger in his 20s/30s he was portrayed in the media as an eligible, handsome and more modern face of the royal family, but with an obvious very unfortunate roving eye for unsuitable relationships (remember Koo Stark, anyone?). This was particularly apparent when he was in the forces flying helicopters and taking part in the Falklands War. He then married Sarah F, who also seemed to be quite a character and much less stuffy than the more conventional Diana and Charles.

Obviously the various scandals, unfortunate ageing, and very bad behaviour of both of them changed all that opinion and we now see more clearly who they are (and probably always were) - posh, uncaring, unintelligent, entitled, uncharming, shallow and pompous.

No doubt the media like to portray the young ‘spares’ in this particular way - young, dashing, handsome characters who help fill up their newspaper columns with their antics. I have no doubt that Harry will probably age just as badly in 20 years we will see him very differently once he’s bald and paunchy with a couple of failed marriages and associated behind him. An increasingly sad and pathetic figure as he continues to bleat about how unfair his privileged has been.

I was told way back in the 90's by someone who worked for a broadsheet paper that the divorce was demanded by Philip and that their plan was to live together openly and perhaps remarry after his death.

I was fairly fascinated by this information I have to admit, and it has always seemed to me to be accurate.

I have no doubt that Harry will probably age just as badly in 20 years we will see him very differently once he’s bald and paunchy with a couple of failed marriages and associated behind him. An increasingly sad and pathetic figure as he continues to bleat about how unfair his privileged has been

Good grief. You are going to be mightingly disappointed if that doesn't happen!

I’m unlikely to still be alive by then, but I’m really not that fussed about him either way.

You should be

What a bizarre couple they are. If they stayed together why did Andrew have random sex with strange teenage girls? Why wasn’t Sarah revolted by that? In his case why would he want to be with a woman who takes her children on holiday with a lover and allows them to see him sucking her toes? They both sound utterly without morals.

I agree, a very odd and unsavoury pair
We’ll never know the real nature of their relationship, but the thought of them remarrying feels me with dread
Can you imagine the smug pictures of those 2 as newlyweds; will be the worst PR ever for the RF

The only real insight in to the relationship came much later, when Fergie said how very much she was on her own during the years as a Navy wife.
And that appears to have been the killer blow to the marriage - seems unsupported by either her own or his family with 2 small DC (yes I know she'd have had staff, but help with the household doesn't end the loneliness)

She was craving attention (and possibly egged on by Diana who was lonely in her own way too) so it's not surprising she fell for men who showed they wanted to be with her. And Andy was Randy Andy, but I don't actually remember gossip about any post-separation girlfriends (do remember one piece of nasty - and almost certainly ill-founded gossip - about why)

So why would she want to live with him again rather than find new love with someone else?

Who knows? But perhaps when he'd left the Navy, they'd lived a bit more life, they'd found themselves on good terms with each other. Stranger things have happened.

Why?

There is absolutely no way the queen would have had an affair. She was all about duty.

@Lampzade

Andrew needs to work with an expert in PR.
This man does not know how to read the room.
^His behaviour was particularly galling given the tragedy in the family.
Stupid man^

Totally agree. Sadly I think he'd treat the PR team as serfs, wouldn't listen to them - rather would undermine them and carry on being a self-satisfied, stupid man financially supported by other people. I'd much rather those people were not the UK Taxpayers. 🌹

I think there was once, a few years ago, in a long-ish relationship with an Italian chap which didn't work out for whatever reason. 🌹

Oh for goodness sake. Affairs are rife, always have been. You underestimate the woman vastly.

She also had a three year relationship with Paddy Mcnally who was a much older and very rich businessman.

PP amusing selectively judgemental - all the other repeated cheaters (Diana, Charles) - and allegedly himself - have different rules.

Andrew, Fergie and their daughters are as corrupt and venal as the rest of them.

Never forget Epstein had more numbers for Fergie than Andrew in his LBB and negotiated her debts down (how|?) by an eye watering amount.

But bang up to date Andrew has a watertight lease equivalent to £250 a week on RL which gives recurrently teetering bankrupt spendthrift Fergie a mansion to romp in and now she's back and gurning centre stage with her repellent ex at official walkies all questions (Ski shack? £5m Mews house? Selman Turk?) seemingly off the table.

£8million mews house actually
How?

Bearing in mind she's been virtually bankrupt for years. And why doesn't she go and live there instead of poncing around on a royal estate?

Imagine Meghan and Harry divorced next year and 29 years from now Meghan was living on a Royal Estate on our ticket!

And before anyone says ....yes Sarah has slagged off the Institution, the men in grey suits, the whole shebang and done two Oprah interviews saying how awful it all was, so I don't need to hear that excuse