Harry wants to come back and ‘help’

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Harry “is willing to return to a temporary royal role in support of his father during his illness, sources have revealed. In an attempt to help heal the rift in the family, the King and Prince Harry are said to have had several “warm ­exchanges” since Charles ­received his cancer diagnosis.
The duke is now understood to have told friends that he would step into a royal role while his father is unwell.”

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/prince-harry-return-royal-role-king-charles-cancer-dn8tcm8nd

So you can’t, I can see it must be very frustrating not being able to back up your claims. British Newspaper stories surely can’t be that arduous for you to find? I’m not expecting you to pop down to you local library and go through reels of microfiche.

Unfortunately it has only just started round here 😆

I may be a minority in this view but I feel far more antipathy towards Harry than Meghan for the current mess. She may or may not be the unpleasant character many think she is but regardless it's really difficult marrying in to that family.

So many of the early issues seem to be rooted in him doing a terrible job of explaining how things work or even straight up lying/minimising about how it would be and what was expected of her.

I wouldn't be shocked if he had told her before the wedding she would only have to do a couple of years of the boring stuff then they would easily be able to leave and do the hybrid thing from the US/Canada.

He seems utterly self absorbed and I bet not an easy man to be married to. As time goes on it's more and more like the Duke of Windsor situation and the desire to build a rival court abroad. I don't think Harry is smart enough to navigate the world stage wisely without the unseen hand of the palace or foreign office and could be a diplomatic disaster waiting to happen.

Like the DoW situation being cut adrift opens the door to malign influences and frankly creates a headache for the government of the day. Which is why the DoW continued to receive an allowance despite not being deserving of it.

Wallis Simpson always got a lot of the blame for that situation but much of what I've read suggests she spent her time appeasing and soothing the man-child ex King she foolishly married and then had years to repent in leisure.

I disagree any movement they made it was written about even up to their wedding that got tarnished with Kate was crying over Meghan because of Charlotte's dress. Who gives that information. I don't recall Andrew's movements being followed.

I disagree any movement they made it was written about even up to their wedding that got tarnished with Kate was crying over Meghan because of Charlotte's dress. Who gives that information. I don't recall Andrew's movements being followed

You sound incredibly invested in this couple. Worrying about their wedding being 'tarnished' because someone got upset over something and wondering who gave that information? frankly, it wouldn't be a legal marriage if someone wasn't upset at some point.

Did the story about Kate’s crying break before the wedding or after, such that there was in fact no tarnishing on that particular score? IIRC, the only tarnishing happening was over Meghan and her father and wider family. Nothing to do with the RF at all.

"the Duchess of Sussex won a privacy claim against the publishers of the Mail On Sunday after they published a letter she sent her father"

The newspapers had to calm down at some point Piers Morgan is in for it his time will come when they serve him up.

As far as I remember, it was several months later that the story emerged then Harry described in great detail how he found Meghan sobbing on the floor (!) because Kate had been beastly to her.

This article shows how she is dammed either way.

https://www.stylist.co.uk/people/meghan-markle-racist-bullying-tabloids-prince-harry-wardrobe-malfunction-duchess-difficult-examples/342213

The newspapers had to calm down at some point Piers Morgan is in for it his time will come when they serve him up.

serve him up as what 🤔

He needs mincing he is an irritating man.

I've always felt that the "Meghan made Kate cry" wasn't actually that positive for Catherine. It made her look a bit pathetic when actually she plays her cards close to her chest and rarely reveals any emotions.

Having read Spare, I do think that both women probably had a bit of a cry as the organisation of the dresses sounded farcial. It sounded like they had to draft in some randommers rather than using people who were known and trusted so the 'leak' could have come from anyone.

Even so, you’re inciting violence again?! You also seem to be an advocate for the French Revolution, which was really rather bloody

You are not answering the question @Carpediemmakeitcount . You claim the tabloids tarnished the run up to and wedding itself with an account of crying over Charlotte’s dress. This is a complete falsehood on your part. The story broke 6/7 months later. Meghan said so herself to Oprah. It was then embellished in salacious detail by Harry, monetising the upset of his SIL, his toddler niece and his own wife.

What has the letter Meghan sent to her father got to do with this?

One woman with pre wedding nerves, another who recently gave birth and a massive dress cock up is a recipe for disaster. Tears all round wouldn't be a surprise or really a big deal even.

I agree with @OvaHere I believe Harry oversold and under delivered to Meghan. He had lost relationships with women he loved in the past as they backed away from the RF & media scrutiny and he was fearful he'd never find someone willing to put up with it. Meghan was gorgeous, mature, ambitious and handled herself well in the public eye - he thought he'd found a unicorn and he oversold and made all sorts of promises, she believed him (I mean, marrying a prince you'd think your life would be perfect, right?) and they rushed in, William was right to warn Harry to slow down and get to know her better, let her see what she was getting herself in to.

Givenchy and whoever instructed them screwed up. The randomer you speak of is a highly respected royal tailor of Asian origin, who was drafted in as you put it to fix the farce - he didn’t create it. And he didn’t say a word about it until Harry wrote about him in Spare, and then he spoke up to diffuse the argument about who was to blame and to defend both Catherine and Meghan.

I think Harry being Harry probably interpreted William saying that as a rejection of Meghan but they were likely meant as wise words. That said H&M being into their 30s at that point didn't have the time W&K had to adjust. Not if they wanted a family which obviously they did.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jan/09/meghan-and-harry-timeline

If it's all in my head why the vile comments about her. Does she really deserve it?

"What has the letter Meghan sent to her father got to do with this?"

They published it and she had to get a privacy order.

If it's all in my head why the vile comments about her. Does she really deserve it?

As I’ve said previously you cannot control what people think, say or print within the law, you may not like it but we have a free press and live in a democracy. I don’t like the vile comments Harry has made about his family but he is free to do so as long as it is not libellous though Harry does seem to get away with a lot without being challenged.

What’s that got to do with you making up a tale that the press tarnished her wedding day over bridesmaid dress crying?

Again - that article doesn’t give any evidence of mainstream media printing articles about the couple or Meghan which are attacking or vile.

It talks a lot about ‘comments’ and how it felt in Harry’s mind but it’s not an orchestrated media campaign.

That’s the spin they tried to make during the Oprah interview and they ended up using a load of American tabloid headlines because there simply wasn’t enough evidence in the actual articles in the UK.

Comment sections and social media is a separate thing and if Meghan and Harry spent their time reading through those then I’m sure that was a horrible thing to experience.

No he doesn’t, but he’s broke and out of options.

He went and needs to stay gone.

That’s the spin they tried to make during the Oprah interview and they ended up using a load of American tabloid headlines because there simply wasn’t enough evidence in the actual articles in the UK.

This bears repeating.