King Charles has cancer

[CormorantStrikesBack]

Just announced on the bbc, doesn’t say what sort yet. Hope he’s going to be ok.

We, the GBP, made this man walk behind his mother's coffin at age 15 and greet complete strangers, hysterically wailing at him about how upset they were that his mum died.
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Actually I don’t know if this is correct. As I remember it the GBP demanded the Queen respond and come back to London and lower the flag etc., but I really don’t remember any demands from the public to see Diana’s boys.

Apart from a few crazies, I think the people were quite shocked and just very saddened to see W&H walking behind their mother’s coffin, and before that at the gates of KP looking at all the flowers.

I think the demands made of the Queen, and the presence of the boys, has become conflated in peoples memories.

I could be wrong though.

I don’t think the public has a right to know why Kate is sick or what cancer Charles has. And I do understand William &Kate setting boundaries (or returning to old ones) about what the public will be told. (Especially given all the publicity surrounding his mother’s very public death, funeral and the coroners inquests and investigations).

Yes I think it's over between William and Harry but Charles is his father and they are clearly in some contact otherwise when Charles called to tell Harry he had cancer he also could have said ' If you darken my doors again I wont see you and by the way Im cutting you out of my will'. He didnt. The important person is Charles. If he wants to see Harry, then it's none of anyone's concern. Including William's, and definitely not the people who are enjoying the second hand drama of a family estrangement.

You're not wrong. Queen wanted the boys to be in Scotland away from everything.

I think it's good for the public to know to the extent they might be more likely to visit their doctor for an annual checkup/not ignore concerning symptoms. There's no need for details.

He's been on the throne for well over a year.

Anyway, silly comparison when the king of England is dying...

Oh, aren't you a charming person.

HMQ and Philip were as much the driving force behind the boys being in that parade as anyone was.

The boys could easily have been with her on the day, or following behind in a carriage (there but not easily seen)

But none of us really know what was said and it sounds like their were various conversations over the week between Diana's death and the funeral.
But they can't turn back the clock

Yes, that would make sense Maggie
As mentioned it was from a post on the other thread, but glad someone saw it and had better news

Harry flying out posthaste makes me concerned that's it's very advanced, whatever the cancer is

That’s one interpretation.

Didn’t Philip have cancer? And the queen? Charles’s announcement would indicate he was privately not comfortable with his parents withholding the information and having died of old age written on their death certificates. He appears to be much more open with the public, but they are not naming the cancer, which I think is maybe a concern

however they would have had to have said something , as he will be in and out of hospital and his appearance could change, ie he may loose his hair, or weight, and he will not be seen for at least a few weeks.

i do agree though on saying that they have the right to privacy over their medical issues, whilst alive (death certificates should be accurate though) and I absolutely think whatever is wrong with Kate, is her business and none of the public’s, and no one should be thinking William should be getting up and making announcements about her health , quite frankly I’d be appalled if he did. If she wishes to tell people then it’s her choice and she should say, not him, and if she doesn’t, then absolutely she should be supported in that.

Just been on Twitter and I've realised...

I always think that the way that people react to personal news about members of the Royal Family says a lot about the kind of person they are.

A sort of in vino veritas if you will.

There are some people who are RF fans and will always wish them well.

There are others who aren't royalists but can lay politics aside and wish the best to a man who's just recieved a shocking diagnosis.

Then there are those who can't resist dragging their political beliefs into it, or making malicious comments. These types are not good people and should be avoided.

Maybe they've got personality disorders, maybe they are angry or bitter or just naturally malicious. But they're accidentally revealing a lot about their own nature and temperament.

It's quite a useful bellwether actually.

I feel for all of King Charles's family and loved ones at this very testing time for the King, but particularly for Camilla. I hope the public generally are much kinder than some of them have been previously to her. I've already seen some vile comments directed toward her on The Royal Family official instagram page.

Charles has quite notably swollen hands/fingers. I believe there's a thing called systemic inflammation which does raise the risk of certain blood cancers. Wonder if that's what they've discovered. Worrying if so.

Well Rishi Sunak said this morning that it has been caught early so there is a good chance of recovery 🤷‍♀️

I do find it surprising that Harry’s plans to fly to the UK have been announced given his security concerns.

You don’t know for certain if it’s over between Harry and William though do you? All you hear is what’s reported in the media. Harry flying back now, to be with his father, however ill he is, means he may or may not see William and his family whilst doing so. If William and Harry grow up and extend olive branches towards each other and stop behaving like scrapping brothers then their sibling relationship may recover. Charles would certainly want that to happen.

But then again in my own family, there have been sibling fallouts which are still not resolved years later (not me and my DB though!).

Indeed Can'tDealWithChristmas. I called out one particular poster yesterday evening who seized the opportunity of Charles's diagnosis to snip snip snip at Harry - as many posts brought back to make snippy comments as she could.

I certainly agree that it reflects pretty accurately.

The Irish model is probablyvthexequivalent of what we woukd gave. A respected ceremonial Head of State. But I agree, that is unlikely and we should have a much scaled down Monarchy. Talking to geriatric Telegraph readers won't keep the Monarchy going for long enough for George to take over

The Irish model works really well in Ireland, but the UK is comparatively such a class driven society that you’ll probably stil, end up the majority of the time with some retired Tory politician or otherwise a billionaire establishment figure. Though it could be one of many symbolic steps to drag the UK away from it’s class based anti-meritocratic history.

I really feel very sorry for the King. However, I’d like to be in his position regarding access to healthcare.

I don’t need to say how it is for the rest of us, as everyone already knows what a shocking state the NHS is in.

They haven't. Next few days means nothing

Can we,for once, stop the Harry sniping on this thread please?

I don't think that should be inferred. Cancer is a serious illness at any stage and the diagnosis will be a shock to Charles and his loved ones even if it is early stage with a good prognosis. It's natural for Harry to want to be with Charles at such a difficult time.

But even Harry has said he is glad he was part of it, so maybe we shouldn't all be furious on his behalf.

With respect , you don’t get to tell other posters what to say .
Strange that criticising Harry is frowned upon yet posters who have posted some pretty awful stuff about Catherine aren’t told to keep it on track ?
And what about the poster who insisted that George was too thick to get into Eton ? Did you criticise her ?

The King decision to call him was quite the right thing to do. Harry rushing here also the right thing to do. I hope it is not something aggressive. The Royal family has been through a lot these last few years. I still feel sad about the Queen passing. I am still not used to King Charles but may the best thing is to pass the title to the youngest generation.