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Social media leaking news of POW hysterectomy

691 replies

CupOfCoffeeandaPineappleChunk · 20/01/2024 05:52

It goes without saying its only her business, however I found it odd that whilst 'doomscrolling' from sleeplessness I came across a couple of posts from US news sites claiming they had news obtained from 'Palace sources' posted onto SM.

We all know that KP is somewhat leaky but over something like this? (I suppose Maybe if the price was right?)
Or is it just speculation passed off as the truth?
Or, are US news sources avowed to publish info that uk ones aren't?

I'm not particularly interested in what she's had done, surgery is unpleasant, full stop, But I'm just wondering if there's a reason the story is in US but not uk news-if it even real ( which seems slightly unlikely I would think, but then you never know about anyone personal life).
Just found out odd and curious as to the whys

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whiteshutters · 24/01/2024 10:41

Mylovelygreendress · 24/01/2024 10:33

Princess Margaret was in poor health for many years . The Duchess of Kent was hospitalised with severe MH problems.

Oh yes she was a big drinker and smoker and suffered strokes in later life.

WestwardHo1 · 24/01/2024 10:59

KenAdams · 24/01/2024 00:22

Her whole image is glamour so I'm guessing it's something entirely unglamorous like bowel surgery.

I'm due to have a full pelvic clearance and bowel resection with a potential temporary stoma soon and the recovery times are similar.

Hysterectomy wouldn't make sense - not sure they even do them at The London Clinic?

Either way, take it from me its horrific and that recovery time is definitely needed.

That's a lot to go through. I hope your surgery is straightforward. All the best 💐

StaunchMomma · 24/01/2024 20:19

LaMarschallin · 20/01/2024 18:00

StaunchMomma

Anyone else only open the thread because you though POW stood for prisoners of war?

No. I just caught sight of "POW" and thought it was about the early series of Batman - I was expecting to a few "ZAP"s and "KERBLAM"s for good measure.
Quite disappointed.

😂

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 24/01/2024 21:36

WinnieTheW0rm · 23/01/2024 21:19

I think the next update will be to confirm that she has left hospital

Hope so

MoneyMoneyMoneyy · 24/01/2024 21:40

KenAdams · 24/01/2024 00:22

Her whole image is glamour so I'm guessing it's something entirely unglamorous like bowel surgery.

I'm due to have a full pelvic clearance and bowel resection with a potential temporary stoma soon and the recovery times are similar.

Hysterectomy wouldn't make sense - not sure they even do them at The London Clinic?

Either way, take it from me its horrific and that recovery time is definitely needed.

Wish you the very best for your procedure and recovery 💐💐

KenAdams · 24/01/2024 21:56

Thank you x

Newchapterbeckons · 25/01/2024 05:20

The silence feels deafening. I really don’t expect details or constant updates but you would think they would at least release a statement to confirm she is actually recovering as expected. The longer this goes on for, with no update, the more concerned the public are likely to be.

Newchapterbeckons · 25/01/2024 05:28

The latest release, but no actual statement, says the royal family were ‘surprised’ by the situation, so that doesn’t sound very planned.

And ‘she will bounce back’ note the tense. It all sounds very much like they don’t know at this stage, and can’t confirm either way should it not go the way they hope.

I might remind the thread police that it is not ‘ghoulish’ to express concern on the forum. Don’t come on here if you don’t want to talk about it or read about it. I loathe the pious silencing posts, please go elsewhere. This is exactly the point of the thread to share our thoughts and concerns.

WinnieTheW0rm · 25/01/2024 07:01

What's this "latest release"?

smilesy · 25/01/2024 07:33

Newchapterbeckons · 25/01/2024 05:28

The latest release, but no actual statement, says the royal family were ‘surprised’ by the situation, so that doesn’t sound very planned.

And ‘she will bounce back’ note the tense. It all sounds very much like they don’t know at this stage, and can’t confirm either way should it not go the way they hope.

I might remind the thread police that it is not ‘ghoulish’ to express concern on the forum. Don’t come on here if you don’t want to talk about it or read about it. I loathe the pious silencing posts, please go elsewhere. This is exactly the point of the thread to share our thoughts and concerns.

The problem is that there is a fine line between “sharing concern”, which I am sure is what every decent person will feel at someone who has had to have surgery at short notice, and demanding to have updates on the Princess when the palace have already said they won’t give any, panicking that we are being lied to, and implying she must be at deaths door because we haven’t heard said updates. Then when there is an “update” that says there was “surprise”, worry that “it doesn’t sound very planned”. As it has often been said here “planned” means it wasn’t “emergency” as in being blue lighted in and straight on to the operating table. It would have been discussed beforehand, but it would have been apparent that the surgery had to go ahead. Again, the palace have said that the surgery went well and the princess is now recovering. So we just have to wait and see if there are any more details, but I don’t believe that the fact we don’t have any hints at anything more sinister than there is nothing to tell

EdithWeston · 25/01/2024 07:39

Newchapterbeckons · 25/01/2024 05:20

The silence feels deafening. I really don’t expect details or constant updates but you would think they would at least release a statement to confirm she is actually recovering as expected. The longer this goes on for, with no update, the more concerned the public are likely to be.

I disagree

The stated at the outset that they would issue statements only when there was something significant to say. I think that pretty much excludes regular updates that don't really add anything. If progressing as expected, then we'll be told when she's gone home (some time after 10 day mark).

If not, then it's none of our business right now, but there might be a statement at 14/15 days when it would become apparent (from continued police presence) that she was still in hospital.

I think the expectation of constant updates isn't a good thing when it's a matter as personal as this

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 25/01/2024 07:40

Newchapterbeckons · 25/01/2024 05:20

The silence feels deafening. I really don’t expect details or constant updates but you would think they would at least release a statement to confirm she is actually recovering as expected. The longer this goes on for, with no update, the more concerned the public are likely to be.

You Poor thing, it seems you’ve not able to sleep for worry about a new update.

You are strong, you can make it through till the update comes.

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User3563573 · 25/01/2024 07:57

I might remind the thread police that it is not ‘ghoulish’ to express concern on the forum. Don’t come on here if you don’t want to talk about it or read about it. I loathe the pious silencing posts, please go elsewhere.

Agree, because it applies to a very specific type of person who loves the fact that their scathing insults get read by real people, and get a little kick out of being insulting and morally superior at the same time.

Basically any MN thread about celebrities are 99.99% never going to be read by the celebrity themselves. It's just idle gossip and speculation about multi millionaires who light years away in their mansions surrounded by staff. Part of their fame and fortune is to accept a level of public interest and scrutiny about their life.

However there's always a brigade of thread police who show up and denigrate normal, everyday MN users for their behaviour knowing that their posts WILL be read by the same people they're insulting. They click on threads knowing full well the content will offend them so they can spew their moral outrage and bask in the feeling of having put someone down. It's essentially the exact same mechanism as bullying but they actively seek out a context through which their words can be morally justified.

It's boring and predictable. Even MNHQ had to come on threads reminding people that's what the Hide function is for, which is their discreet way of saying "Why the fuck do you click on titles that you know will offend you?"

Emotionalsupportviper · 25/01/2024 08:07

Newchapterbeckons · 25/01/2024 05:28

The latest release, but no actual statement, says the royal family were ‘surprised’ by the situation, so that doesn’t sound very planned.

And ‘she will bounce back’ note the tense. It all sounds very much like they don’t know at this stage, and can’t confirm either way should it not go the way they hope.

I might remind the thread police that it is not ‘ghoulish’ to express concern on the forum. Don’t come on here if you don’t want to talk about it or read about it. I loathe the pious silencing posts, please go elsewhere. This is exactly the point of the thread to share our thoughts and concerns.

I might remind the thread police that it is not ‘ghoulish’ to express concern on the forum. Don’t come on here if you don’t want to talk about it or read about it. I loathe the pious silencing posts, please go elsewhere. This is exactly the point of the thread to share our thoughts and concerns.

Seconded!

If people don't want to read about it, express their concerns and opinions, share their own experiences they are free to leave at any time.

RaccoonOnTheSofa · 25/01/2024 08:13

Emotionalsupportviper · 25/01/2024 08:07

I might remind the thread police that it is not ‘ghoulish’ to express concern on the forum. Don’t come on here if you don’t want to talk about it or read about it. I loathe the pious silencing posts, please go elsewhere. This is exactly the point of the thread to share our thoughts and concerns.

Seconded!

If people don't want to read about it, express their concerns and opinions, share their own experiences they are free to leave at any time.

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To a point. The people on here saying they know it’s bulimia or she’s definitely got this mental health issue and so on are just vile. The problem with such posts is some idiot comes on here and says ‘Oh I KNOW it’s bulimia’ and someone else reads it and posts elsewhere and then it gets traction and before you know it, Twitter are all declaring she’s bulimic. There are a lot of lies that go round and it only takes one person for those lies to become truth to many people, such is the nature of the social media beast. So whilst discussing her health is one thing, the random speculation being purported as fact is dangerous. This idea that the actual celebrity isn’t reading here is a little irrelevant, because it only takes a few clicks and a rumour that could have a huge impact on someone’s life can get traction and take off. You may think it’s only a little board in the ether, but unfortunately this is how Chinese whispers start. So it IS important to be mindful and respectful.

pilates · 25/01/2024 08:18

Agree Raccoon. Some of the posts are definitely not in the spirit of MN.

RaccoonOnTheSofa · 25/01/2024 08:21

And just to back this up, posts from the website Tattle Life were used in a court case, I am led to believe. So this stuff doesn’t go unnoticed, as much as people think it might do.

Stuff you write online is often there forever and can have a big impact, no matter what your intention.

WinnieTheW0rm · 25/01/2024 08:26

pilates · 25/01/2024 08:18

Agree Raccoon. Some of the posts are definitely not in the spirit of MN.

I hope you have reported the ones that you think go too far.

MNHQ might not agree with any particular MNetter where the line is drawn, but we know they are the final arbiters. So if you've reported a post and it's not deleted, then is it right to tell off people for posting in a way that's within talk guidelines? Commenting on the substance of the post itself is fine (of course)

And if you've not reported the post, then it's a bit off to whinge about it being there when you've not taken the obvious step to deal with it effectively. And surely no-one is that wet a lettuce that reporting a post is too daunting? Choosing not to report, but to tell everyone off anyhow always strikes me as peculiar

(Sorry, do realise this is as much a diversion as all the tiresome "ticking off" posts, so won't do it again!)

LolaSmiles · 25/01/2024 08:28

It's not ghoulish to say "hope she's ok and it isn't anything serious".

It is ghoulish to complain that not enough of someone's medical details have been released for the public to comb over, that more information should be released because strangers want to know, that not releasing medical information is making the gossip worse (because people couldn't give a fellow human being some privacy), and start speculating about what might be wrong with someone.

Just like if a colleague is off sick, it's not weird or ghoulish to say "I hope they feel better soon. That's a long time to be off and hope they're recovering". It would be ghoulish to gossip about what you think is wrong with the colleague, why haven't more details been given, that's a long time to have off work so it must be this condition or that condition.

Belinda5 · 25/01/2024 08:31

Newchapterbeckons · 25/01/2024 05:28

The latest release, but no actual statement, says the royal family were ‘surprised’ by the situation, so that doesn’t sound very planned.

And ‘she will bounce back’ note the tense. It all sounds very much like they don’t know at this stage, and can’t confirm either way should it not go the way they hope.

I might remind the thread police that it is not ‘ghoulish’ to express concern on the forum. Don’t come on here if you don’t want to talk about it or read about it. I loathe the pious silencing posts, please go elsewhere. This is exactly the point of the thread to share our thoughts and concerns.

No but it is ghoulish to interpret every statement and every silence as some kind of evidence that there is something seriously wrong with the POW. And posters are perfectly entitled to come on this thread and express their distaste at some of the 'grim reaperish' posts on here. There is something rather ironic about you talking about the 'thread police' and people trying to 'silence' others from expressing their views.

Hildebrandthehog · 25/01/2024 08:41

No but it’s ghoulish to complain that …

… not releasing medical information is making the gossip worse (because people couldn't give a fellow human being some privacy)

^^ disagree strongly! That’s a very different interpretation to the point I was making. Why is it ghoulish to say that you don’t think they have handled the PR well?

You don’t have to release more medical information necessarily but be more strategic about what you do release. To think that any tabloids are going to offer KM privacy is naive. The BP PR machine needs to manage the situation better which is what they are paid to do.

WinnieTheW0rm · 25/01/2024 08:43

Sorry to harp on, but what is this "latest release" ?

Who has said what - is it on the "not cancer" level of sourcing (not part of the statement, but reporters says Palace has confirmed it's not) - so has the Palace now confirmed something else?

Or is it the latest from the swirling soup of chatter?

WinnieTheW0rm · 25/01/2024 08:46

To think that any tabloids are going to offer KM privacy is naive. The BP PR machine needs to manage the situation better which is what they are paid to do*

I think they've done fine. No intrusion, other than one pic of Prince William in a car on the way to visit.

No leaks of her personal medical information that I've spotted.

Belinda5 · 25/01/2024 08:47

Hildebrandthehog · 25/01/2024 08:41

No but it’s ghoulish to complain that …

… not releasing medical information is making the gossip worse (because people couldn't give a fellow human being some privacy)

^^ disagree strongly! That’s a very different interpretation to the point I was making. Why is it ghoulish to say that you don’t think they have handled the PR well?

You don’t have to release more medical information necessarily but be more strategic about what you do release. To think that any tabloids are going to offer KM privacy is naive. The BP PR machine needs to manage the situation better which is what they are paid to do.

The problem with some people though is that whatever information is released they will put a negative spin on it. 'Oh the Princess is recovering as expected. That doesn't sound very good. Why haven't they said she's recovering well'. 'Oh dear, the Princess is expected to remain in hospital for another few days. She must be seriously seriously ill" and so on and so on. There are some awful drama llamas on here who can't take any statement at face value, but are desperate to find something sinister in everything.

pilates · 25/01/2024 08:48

@WinnieTheW0rm yes I have on more than one occasion! 🤨