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Prince Andrew Was Lying (and Sweating) From The Start, Wasn't He?

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TallerSally · 04/01/2024 14:50

So now we have it, the abject and in all likelihood criminal behaviour of Prince Andrew, still titled Duke of York and still eighth in the line of succession to the British throne, laid out for all to see.

Settled out of court as part of a grotesque cover-up.

Still denying knowing Virginia Giuffre, and presumably Johanna Sjoberg whose breast he allegedly fondled, who are undoubtedly the tip of the iceberg of the girls Prince Andrew and his paedo friend Jeffrey Epstein abused.

Still protected by Buckingham Palace who have gone out of their way to state the accusations as "categorically untrue", as if anyone believes them.

Still supported by the British Royal Family who seem desperate to "rehabilitate him" (and his grifter ex-wife), still living in a Royal Palace presumably at taxpayers expense (i.e. Grifter in Chief), still prancing around at official functions, still oozing a sense of arrogant entitlement, with no-one including King Charles having any sense of courage or moral rectitude to deliver to make him face the consequences of his repugnant actions.

Still being defended by the royal palaces briefing operations and the British media, and by those at ease with shameful double standards on various boards, including this one, who are happy spending their time posting 100'000+ messages a year attacking Meghan and Harry while turning a blind eye to a likely real criminal.

No amount of covering-up will ever rehabilitate Prince Andrew. All it'll do is drag the royal family further down in the esteem of folks with any sense of decency.

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LolaSmiles · 27/01/2024 17:30

TallerSally
I agree with you about the absence of moral leadership. The firm should be making it clear he cannot be in hiding in royal palaces and avoiding being appropriately investigated.

I just don't like the idea that comes up on these boards where it's assumed that everyone has sides on the royal family, or that people having a view on one set of royals is relevant to their view on other royals.

I don't think the balance of discussion is likely to change when some members of the RF put themselves in the public eye and another hides away though. Just like there's more comments about some soap stars' lives and there's A Listers who almost nobody knows anything about. People are going to talk about the people who place themselves in the public eye (and I'm not including the nasty leaked "sources of.... Said..." gossip pieces here because they're often horrible).

The sad state of affairs is that there's a whole murky world and I reckon us normal members of the public haven't touched the tip of the iceberg of it.

CathyorClaire · 27/01/2024 19:54

I've no idea why the ghastly QE2 was sanctified when she died. She was utterly complicit.

I agree entirely.

Nauseating to see the rest of them carrying on where she left off and even more nauseating to see Chuck rattling PR sabres about kicking him out of his ridiculously huge pile or not meeting his security bill.

He really must think the public are mugs.

TallerSally · 27/01/2024 21:44

goodbyestranger · 27/01/2024 18:27

https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/08/andrew-bolts-to-balmoral-to-avoid-being-served-sexual-assault-papers-15224180/

I've no idea why the ghastly QE2 was sanctified when she died. She was utterly complicit.

They're all interested in propping themselves up - nothing bigger than that. Incredibly seedy, the whole bunch.

Wow, I had forgotten about that utterly shameful episode, the pathetic sight of Prince Andrew running around like a rat trying to dodge being served, with his entire entourage colluding to help him escape accountability.

And to think he and BP recently had the nerve to have the word put out that his ‘only mistake’ was to settle out of court with Virginia Giuffre! If true, why was he going to such tragicomic lengths to avoid going to court to ‘prove’ his claimed innocence??

And QE2 steadfastly supporting him. What a disappointment… so much for the moral high ground! 🙄

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TallerSally · 27/01/2024 21:53

@CathyorClaire

even more nauseating to see Chuck rattling PR sabres about kicking him out of his ridiculously huge pile or not meeting his security bill.

So agree. If King Charles wanted Andrew out of Royal Lodge he would have kicked him out long ago - just look how expedient he was in evicting H&M from Frogmore for not committing any crimes.

And we all know the BS about Andrew paying £1m of money likely grifted off someone else for a 75-yr lease of Royal Lodge is just that - meaningless BS and yet another smokescreen to hide the fact that protecting Andrew and other paedos in the RF entourage (read up thread for lists of names) seems to be a royal family tradition.

So much for moral leadership indeed!

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TallerSally · 03/02/2024 12:07

Pass the barf bag!

BP is at it again, trying to rehabilitate the credibly-accused of child sexual abuse arrogant but cowardly Prince Andrew and his PhD in Grifting ex-wife Fergie, by teasing their remarriage.

I don't know anyone who feels anything other than disgust and disdain for those creepy two. BP may need to pay people to line the streets and not yell "shame!!!" at them...

It's been barely a month that the latest Epstein revelations with allegations that Andrew spent weeks on end at Epstein's Florida property getting "daily massages", and that Fergie visited the property, which was known to be decorated with sexually suggestive photos of under-age girls, many of whom were waiting around the property between their thrice-daily rapes.

And now stories about a remarriage... Some people are gullible and easily-manipulated, but I suspect the majority are most definitely not...

Smacks of desperation on behalf of BP, who haven't covered themselves in glory over their inability to hold Prince Andrew to account for his lies and for dragging the RF into such disgrace.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/02/02/prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-wedding/

Prince Andrew and the Duchess of York: the next royal wedding?

The perennial question is back on the agenda after rumours that the former couple's path back to the altar has been officially cleared

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/02/02/prince-andrew-sarah-ferguson-wedding

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Novella4 · 03/02/2024 12:53

Has it all gone quiet re Andrew’s cut price housing and paid for security?
There’s a lazy , dismissive PR cycle dangling that carrot every so often- then oops it’s gone . Nothing to see here .

Or us this distraction from something else? Remember the manufactured outrage over a name? That was to hide something
What’s this trying to hide?

Novella4 · 03/02/2024 12:55

@TallerSally and @CathyorClaire - I see you have already pointed out the PR cycle. Sorry to reiterate your point

Doesn’t everyone see through the tired old tricks that the ‘royals’ rely on ?
Their comms are really failing

goodbyestranger · 03/02/2024 13:14

Their comms team is just collectively shit at its job. It's all so transparent.

BrittleVeneers · 03/02/2024 13:20

I could only read the first sentence of the telegraph article but that was enough.

Something about ‘is it time for a wedding to lift out spirits?’

How stupid does the media think the public are? Do the royal family think we are stupid. The PR is shite.

goodbyestranger · 03/02/2024 13:22

The Palace/s certainly think we are incredibly stupid. Probably because they and their teams are incredibly stupid.

ThePoshUns · 03/02/2024 13:43

Urgh do BP think we will be celebrating on their behalf? Grifters the pair of them and that's being polite. KC would be wise to cut them adrift.

Roussette · 03/02/2024 13:46

Who cares if they get married again... just f**k off and do it then, no one is interested.
It's always been a weird arrangement and SF must be happy now PP is gone and she has managed to ease herself back into frontline RF like at Christmas church. Totally and utterly nauseating.
I know she has been ill (I wouldn't wish a masectomy on anyone having supported a friend through it)

Angrycat2768 · 03/02/2024 13:56

Novella4 · 03/02/2024 12:55

@TallerSally and @CathyorClaire - I see you have already pointed out the PR cycle. Sorry to reiterate your point

Doesn’t everyone see through the tired old tricks that the ‘royals’ rely on ?
Their comms are really failing

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They are talking to Toyal superman's and loyalists who will tie themselves in knots to excuse the Roysls gor anything and everything. Nothing is the poor darlings' fault. They are so easily manipulated by evil commoners yet superior to us in every way!

Angrycat2768 · 03/02/2024 14:09

Angrycat2768 · 03/02/2024 13:56

They are talking to Toyal superman's and loyalists who will tie themselves in knots to excuse the Roysls gor anything and everything. Nothing is the poor darlings' fault. They are so easily manipulated by evil commoners yet superior to us in every way!

Royal Superfans and loyalists that should say!

TallerSally · 03/02/2024 14:24

goodbyestranger · 03/02/2024 13:22

The Palace/s certainly think we are incredibly stupid. Probably because they and their teams are incredibly stupid.

Yes it's just incredible how thick they must be to think they can sell rumours about two extremely unpopular grifters (one accused of child rape) as some kind of uplifting moment for the nation.

Could it be that they're so drunk on the adulation the RF received at the death of QE2, and the (decidedly more lukewarm) faff about KC's blingy and expensive coronation, that they think they can sell the British masses anything... even if it's a pile of turd with a "Royal" flag planted in the middle of it???

Dream on - we're watching!

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/02/2024 14:28

BP is at it again, trying to rehabilitate the credibly-accused of child sexual abuse arrogant but cowardly Prince Andrew and his PhD in Grifting ex-wife Fergie, by teasing their remarriage

It's their choice of course, but frankly I'd be amazed if Sarah even wanted to re-marry her repulsive ex ... why would she pick "official" involvement with that ghastly family again, when from a material POV she's doing very nicely as it is?

I'd say it's just more journalistic crap, except that the Torygraph's often favoured by the RF for flag-flying, so maybe they're trialing a story to see what the reaction is?

Roussette · 03/02/2024 14:40

but frankly I'd be amazed if Sarah even wanted to re-marry her repulsive ex ... why would she pick "official" involvement with that ghastly family again, when from a material POV she's doing very nicely as it is?

She's part of it! She lives on a 98 acre Royal Estate, despite having a £6M Mayfair house! You can't tell me she pays her way whilst living there. And she uses the grounds as a backdrop whilst dressed up in regal costumes to flog her Mills & Boon books.

She loves being part of it, I bet she would marry in again like a shot. She talks about him in such glowing terms...
She calls him a giant of a principled man and a true gentleman, steadfast to his duty

Bollocks.

Angrycat2768 · 03/02/2024 14:44

Roussette · 03/02/2024 14:40

but frankly I'd be amazed if Sarah even wanted to re-marry her repulsive ex ... why would she pick "official" involvement with that ghastly family again, when from a material POV she's doing very nicely as it is?

She's part of it! She lives on a 98 acre Royal Estate, despite having a £6M Mayfair house! You can't tell me she pays her way whilst living there. And she uses the grounds as a backdrop whilst dressed up in regal costumes to flog her Mills & Boon books.

She loves being part of it, I bet she would marry in again like a shot. She talks about him in such glowing terms...
She calls him a giant of a principled man and a true gentleman, steadfast to his duty

Bollocks.

Agree. She was like a kid in the candy store grinning away on the walk to church. She was in her element. She bloody loves it!

TallerSally · 03/02/2024 15:00

Both are the very definition of grifters, in slightly different ways. PA is a sleazy entitled leech who’s spent his life shamelessly sponging off the RF and public purse, pretending to be an envoy while touring the world accepting grace and favours from paedophiles and dictators.

As for Fergie, gold-digger doesn’t even begin to capture it. Admittedly when she was turfed out she showed her entrepreneurial/hustling skills by being caught trying to peddle access to PA for money (how dumb to think someone would genuinely pay for access to ‘Randy Andy’), and with her various tasteless ventures in the world of Mills and Boon, and US low-brow talk shows etc etc.

Honestly, the RF couldn’t have found two more crass characters to try to big up to the public.

And if what BP are doing is testing the waters as some kind of subtle PR strategy, then the message is clear: global ridicule and contempt await!

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PassifloraEvangelist · 03/02/2024 15:07

Roussette · 03/02/2024 14:40

but frankly I'd be amazed if Sarah even wanted to re-marry her repulsive ex ... why would she pick "official" involvement with that ghastly family again, when from a material POV she's doing very nicely as it is?

She's part of it! She lives on a 98 acre Royal Estate, despite having a £6M Mayfair house! You can't tell me she pays her way whilst living there. And she uses the grounds as a backdrop whilst dressed up in regal costumes to flog her Mills & Boon books.

She loves being part of it, I bet she would marry in again like a shot. She talks about him in such glowing terms...
She calls him a giant of a principled man and a true gentleman, steadfast to his duty

Bollocks.

She’s there on sufferance though and has
no money of her own. I think she would remarry for the financial security if nothing else.

TallerSally · 03/02/2024 15:08

Anyway, if I were working for the FBI, I’d see this as an opportunity… for a well timed leak of, say, video footage of PA at the Epstein residence?

The day before the putative wedding should do the trick…

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Roussette · 03/02/2024 15:20

PassifloraEvangelist · 03/02/2024 15:07

She’s there on sufferance though and has
no money of her own. I think she would remarry for the financial security if nothing else.

But how did she buy a £6M Mayfair house? She has said she is on the verge of bankruptcy and has been for years.... I can only assume it's the sale of the Swiss chalet money? If not, how can you be nearly bankrupt and buy this....Who knows... As usual with the Yorks, it's dodgy and shrouded in mystery!

If she is there under sufferance, she could live in this house!

PassifloraEvangelist · 03/02/2024 15:21

Roussette · 03/02/2024 15:20

But how did she buy a £6M Mayfair house? She has said she is on the verge of bankruptcy and has been for years.... I can only assume it's the sale of the Swiss chalet money? If not, how can you be nearly bankrupt and buy this....Who knows... As usual with the Yorks, it's dodgy and shrouded in mystery!

If she is there under sufferance, she could live in this house!

I have wondered that. It’s all extremely dodgy. Money laundering?

Roussette · 03/02/2024 15:28

PassifloraEvangelist · 03/02/2024 15:21

I have wondered that. It’s all extremely dodgy. Money laundering?

Quite possibly!

If you read Andrew's Wiki page (with sources at the bottom) he has always been on the make... £3M over the offer price of the marital home by a Kazaksthan oligarch, bakchanders from arms dealers and gun smugglers, dodgy deals with payment to him, and let's not forget his abuse of the public purse.

"In 2010, the Prince spent £620,000 as a trade envoy, including £154,000 on hotels, food and hospitality and £465,000 on travel"

Just disgusting and even more disgusting is this...

Official documents covering Andrew's business trips between 2001 and 2011 will not be released by the Foreign Office until 2065

Course they won't be released. There would be the biggest public outcry ever if we knew all the details. Look at 2010 which was reported on in the media... imagine that times 10.....

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