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Extensive Phone Hacking by MGN

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 11:04

So... Harry has won his case.

As lawyers are saying now... this is massive. 15 out of 33 accusations of hacking by Harry were upheld as a result of phone hacking and other illegal practices.
Hacking and blagging were even taking place during the Leveson enquiry.

He has won damages of £140,000 plus. And before this thread descends into Harry hate, please think of all the other claimants who have also had their claims upheld and damages awarded to them. They went through hell, medical records hacked and reported on, trackers on cars, phones hacked...

It's not about the money, it's about 'accountability of power'.

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Cakester · 16/12/2023 10:47

Lockupyourbiscuits · 16/12/2023 10:41

If you are interested on the reason it may be because some people can’t be bothered to comment to be insulted

regards
“Cloth Ears”

Insulted about what? Surely anyone commenting on this win would be saying how pleased they were criminal activity is not going unpunished? Those who thought he wouldn't win, would surely say, I was wrong, this is a good thing? Whats your opinion about this case?

Roussette · 16/12/2023 10:48

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Cakester · 16/12/2023 10:49

Janiie · 16/12/2023 10:44

As I've just said I'm happy to be informed who decides if criminal charges are brought here, I'm all ears. Who brings the charges?

In my opinion it would be a waste of time amd money to investigate phone hacking further yes. This judge reached a decision it happened and damages will be paid.

Who normally brings criminal proceedings Janiie?

So you think extensive criminal activity should only be heard in a civil court? Even if people involved lied during an important public inquiry? That seems like letting them get away with it, as they're not personally paying these damages and the damages are small. The execs, Piers, shouldn't they be personally held responsible too?

Cakester · 16/12/2023 10:50

Roussette · 16/12/2023 10:45

Exactly the reason I haven't contributed to the 5,000 posts on Omid. (apart from one post) My life would be made hell. It isn't toxic on this thread

Anyway, back to the thread...

LONDON, Dec 16 (Reuters) - London's police said they will "carefully consider" the findings of a court ruling that found Prince Harry had been a victim of phone hacking and other unlawful acts by Mirror Group journalists with the knowledge of their editors.

This is not going to go away

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Thats good to hear, I do hope they take it seriously.

AliceOlive · 16/12/2023 10:51

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AliceOlive · 16/12/2023 10:53

Hope you do keep reading and mentioning those other threads @Roussette.

Roussette · 16/12/2023 10:56

It was just as well you did AliceOlive but don't worry I read it. Nothing like a PA to go with my morning cuppa!

Back to the thread... hope you like everyone else are pleased with this verdict. It will be good for all of us, in the long run, but it isn't the end...

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Janiie · 16/12/2023 10:58

Cakester · 16/12/2023 10:49

Who normally brings criminal proceedings Janiie?

So you think extensive criminal activity should only be heard in a civil court? Even if people involved lied during an important public inquiry? That seems like letting them get away with it, as they're not personally paying these damages and the damages are small. The execs, Piers, shouldn't they be personally held responsible too?

Oh nevermind. I was merely asking how these things go as I've no idea who decides when civil issues then become criminal. Mr Justice himself, the Met who?

Let just keep cheering Harry's one success without any further discussion. Yayy.

Fulshaw · 16/12/2023 10:59

As I've just said I'm happy to be informed who decides if criminal charges are brought here, I'm all ears. Who brings the charges?

Police investigate if a crime has taken place. They pass a file of the evidence gathered to the CPS. The CPS decide whether to bring charges based on two tests - is there a realistic chance of conviction and is it in the public interest

Roussette · 16/12/2023 10:59

What is interesting is.... this judgement has gone worldwide. I am reading articles obviously a lot from US, also from India, from Canada, Australia, NZ and more...

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GrazingSheep · 16/12/2023 11:00

@Janiie
Why do you think criminal activities should not be investigated? Or is it just criminal activity with the Duke of Sussex as the victim that should be left without investigation by the police and CPS?

Roussette · 16/12/2023 11:03

Let just keep cheering Harry's one success without any further discussion. Yayy.

You may not have noticed or you've not read the thread, but there has been extensive discussion on what might happen next, his further cases, Associated News and the other claimants against MoS.

Perhaps read through the thread and see?

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AliceOlive · 16/12/2023 11:04

Roussette · 16/12/2023 10:56

It was just as well you did AliceOlive but don't worry I read it. Nothing like a PA to go with my morning cuppa!

Back to the thread... hope you like everyone else are pleased with this verdict. It will be good for all of us, in the long run, but it isn't the end...

Passive aggressive? Ha! That’s you repeatedly mentioning the book threads which you would not comment on from the beginning, because you know that book is wretched and that they collaborated with Scobie once again in attacking their own family. There is nothing you can say, right? It’s a train wreck. But your constant goading is tiresome, and I cracked.

No one begrudges Harry finally winning this, despite himself. The hacking was damaging to him and others and the judgement against MGM is well deserved

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Janiie · 16/12/2023 11:06

Roussette · 16/12/2023 10:59

What is interesting is.... this judgement has gone worldwide. I am reading articles obviously a lot from US, also from India, from Canada, Australia, NZ and more...

It's hardly interesting or even surprising really. I doubt if it was just the other claimants it would have gone outside well, even London.

It is Harry, he is newsworthy for all the wrong reasons usually but on this one instance we are all united in celebration. Who is up next is it ANL or whatever its called?

Sisterpita · 16/12/2023 11:06

Samcro · 16/12/2023 10:15

i find it interesting that PW did his in secret. I suppose he can use the excuse that the RF is not supposed to get involved in politics.
well done Harry for having the bottle to fight this publicly.

PW did what a lot of claimants do, a settlement which usually included a NDA. Many people take this pragmatic route.

The fact a settlement was reached was made public. Quite rightly the details of the settlement remain confidential.

To suggest this was any less of a victory that Harry going to court is misunderstanding the normal legal processes.

Harry will have had advice on his chances of success and, based on reporting, he chose not to settle. The judgement was 15 cases were found unlawful but 18 were not. Yes Harry has won ££ but what has he had to do to get that - give evidence in court, be cross examined about his personal life , a whole lot of stress, newspaper articles about the court case.

Condemning PW for settling or criticising a father advising to settle rather than putting your self through the court case could be seen as caring advice.

Given the recent judgement in another case Harry is taking to court he may end up on the wrong end of a judgement.

I think everyone who is taking the papers to court is brave, including Harry, but don’t be surprised if some settle.

Janiie · 16/12/2023 11:10

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I know!

Harry and scobie/ Finding Freedom supporters mention them all good, critics respond and it's a derail, we must leave at once. So rude Xmas Grin.

Janiie · 16/12/2023 11:12

'The judgement was 15 cases were found unlawful but 18 were not'

Yes it's a bit of a hollow victory one might say.

Roussette · 16/12/2023 11:13

Janiie · 16/12/2023 11:12

'The judgement was 15 cases were found unlawful but 18 were not'

Yes it's a bit of a hollow victory one might say.

That's strange that the media reporting say completely the opposite (apart from DM of course)

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skullbabe · 16/12/2023 11:14

that book is wretched

It actually isn’t - I’ve now read it all. Nope, not wretched, not an attack, not a lot of new information not known to the British public. It’s actually quite boring. But you wouldn’t know that from those threads which are informed by how it and Omid have been reported by the press and in social media. Most of the people on those threads have not read the book.

AliceOlive · 16/12/2023 11:15

@Sisterpita excellent post and want to say that I’ve enjoyed reading all of your posts that I’ve seen on this board.

I think it’s great for Harry to lend his name and face to this cause. People are choosing not to do that for various reasons. His fans will use it to criticize PW but hopefully will leave the others who chose to settle alone. Harry certainly is in a good position to see it through, though so good for him.

AliceOlive · 16/12/2023 11:17

skullbabe · 16/12/2023 11:14

that book is wretched

It actually isn’t - I’ve now read it all. Nope, not wretched, not an attack, not a lot of new information not known to the British public. It’s actually quite boring. But you wouldn’t know that from those threads which are informed by how it and Omid have been reported by the press and in social media. Most of the people on those threads have not read the book.

I think you (who once called me a misogynist) just don’t register bullying of women you dislike. What was said about Camilla - a born mistress- should be enough for anyone to walk away.

PaperSky · 16/12/2023 11:17

cometdancer · 15/12/2023 20:46

I always thought H&M were driven out of this country. I believe the vendetta is real. I’m most alarmed the RF could have sat back and let this play out.

I really don’t see how the royal family are blamed tbh.
William was also hacked, and had a settlement.

And the same people who are blaming the RF are the same ones who laugh at Charles and bring up tampons etc.

The judgement has said it’s obvious that the paper was hacking/blagging etc.
The ‘secret agreement’ was also judged to be implausible.

So do we agree with the judgements or not?
Or do we just agree with what we like, and ignore the bits we don’t?

FWIW, before people assume my opinions, I’m glad Harry and the other claimants have won, and hope any and all others who were the victims of hacking get the justice and respect they deserve. (Including other members of RF who have been victims in this too)

AliceOlive · 16/12/2023 11:18

Janiie · 16/12/2023 11:10

I know!

Harry and scobie/ Finding Freedom supporters mention them all good, critics respond and it's a derail, we must leave at once. So rude Xmas Grin.

I’ve been seeing these snide posts since the first OS thread. I cracked. Sad.

Cakester · 16/12/2023 11:18

@PaperSky I think you're getting the cases confused.

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