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Extensive Phone Hacking by MGN

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 11:04

So... Harry has won his case.

As lawyers are saying now... this is massive. 15 out of 33 accusations of hacking by Harry were upheld as a result of phone hacking and other illegal practices.
Hacking and blagging were even taking place during the Leveson enquiry.

He has won damages of £140,000 plus. And before this thread descends into Harry hate, please think of all the other claimants who have also had their claims upheld and damages awarded to them. They went through hell, medical records hacked and reported on, trackers on cars, phones hacked...

It's not about the money, it's about 'accountability of power'.

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 21:40

Good to hear! So glad you think that. He did well.

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Myfabby · 15/12/2023 21:42

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:33

Of course I'm pleased he won his case, along with anyone who wins a legal case involving a gross invasion of privacy. No one in their right mind would think otherwise,

repeat ad infinitum😂

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:43

There were doubts because a lot of his case hung on the more extensive hacking of Chelsea's phone and she did not join in the action, neither did other friends, but the judge obviously agreed with Harry's plea that these other hackings were designed to get to him. Hence judgement.

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 21:45

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:43

There were doubts because a lot of his case hung on the more extensive hacking of Chelsea's phone and she did not join in the action, neither did other friends, but the judge obviously agreed with Harry's plea that these other hackings were designed to get to him. Hence judgement.

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Roussette · 15/12/2023 21:46

All doubts swept away given the judgement.

Well done Harry

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rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:48

@Myfabby I'm sorry you don't agree with the judgement and find the judges words funny. Surely you can't agree with phone hacking and be against this judgement?

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 21:49

Roussette · 15/12/2023 21:46

All doubts swept away given the judgement.

Well done Harry

Good King Harry👑

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 21:49

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:48

@Myfabby I'm sorry you don't agree with the judgement and find the judges words funny. Surely you can't agree with phone hacking and be against this judgement?

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Cakester · 15/12/2023 21:49

continuing with the judgement, theres a LOT about how the judge calculated damages, its extensive. It is interesting reading though. The largest individual sums for damages for Harry came from an article about his mother and his thoughts about Burrell, the impact on his overall wellbeing was an extra sum, and a £15,000 sum for aggravated damages. Each article was awarded smaller sums ranging from £2-7,000

Samcro · 15/12/2023 22:14

I might be wrong here, but all this has made me wonder if people have been played by the media.
now I’m not going to pretend H&M are squeaky clean, but the level of hate they receive is off the charts, and it all lead’s back to the media, or the press.
i remember when it was Diana =good
Sarah = bad
there has been a hate campaign against Meghan for ages, and who fuels that?
oh yes the press and media, people like piers Morgan

Sisterpita · 15/12/2023 22:34

@Samcro yes we are played by the media.

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:38

@Samcro But Harry said on Netflix that the royal F were upset and angry that Meghan went somewhere and outshone all the other royals and all the papers were praising her and she overshadowed the rest of the RF. she was on the front page and the queen outing was overshadowed. This was what he himself said, not a newspaper article. I do think it's disingenuous to say it's all media, although it certainly plays a big part. Lots of people stopped buying newspapers years ago like me. Also have no time for magazines. I only see the odd article that pops into my feed. Even Newsweek in America has a critical piece out on them, so something other than simply print media and social media must be at play here. Even their fiercest supporters must admit they do themselves no favours otherwise why would Southpark poke fun at them? The couple need to step back, rethink their strategy and concentrate on their charity and creative work. Omid scobies book has caused them harm by association and I think this really is their opportunity to stop whining and play to their strengths and stop displaying their weaknesses.

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 22:41

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:38

@Samcro But Harry said on Netflix that the royal F were upset and angry that Meghan went somewhere and outshone all the other royals and all the papers were praising her and she overshadowed the rest of the RF. she was on the front page and the queen outing was overshadowed. This was what he himself said, not a newspaper article. I do think it's disingenuous to say it's all media, although it certainly plays a big part. Lots of people stopped buying newspapers years ago like me. Also have no time for magazines. I only see the odd article that pops into my feed. Even Newsweek in America has a critical piece out on them, so something other than simply print media and social media must be at play here. Even their fiercest supporters must admit they do themselves no favours otherwise why would Southpark poke fun at them? The couple need to step back, rethink their strategy and concentrate on their charity and creative work. Omid scobies book has caused them harm by association and I think this really is their opportunity to stop whining and play to their strengths and stop displaying their weaknesses.

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rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:50

@Myfabby Thank you so much for quoting my posts. My points I know are very valid and I'm so pleased you appreciate them.

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 22:51

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:50

@Myfabby Thank you so much for quoting my posts. My points I know are very valid and I'm so pleased you appreciate them.

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GrazingSheep · 15/12/2023 22:52

@MaturingCheeseball
Yes. It’s not the Daily Mail. But you probably know that the Daily Mail goes for Harry’s jugular at every opportunity so the fact that this judgement is not their first headline is very telling.

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:53

@Myfabby Aw. 🥰🥰🥰🥰. Thank you lovely.

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:54

GrazingSheep · 15/12/2023 22:52

@MaturingCheeseball
Yes. It’s not the Daily Mail. But you probably know that the Daily Mail goes for Harry’s jugular at every opportunity so the fact that this judgement is not their first headline is very telling.

Birds of a feather and all that.

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:54

GrazingSheep · 15/12/2023 22:52

@MaturingCheeseball
Yes. It’s not the Daily Mail. But you probably know that the Daily Mail goes for Harry’s jugular at every opportunity so the fact that this judgement is not their first headline is very telling.

Birds of a feather and all that

Myfabby · 15/12/2023 22:55

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:53

@Myfabby Aw. 🥰🥰🥰🥰. Thank you lovely.

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rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 22:59

My flight is calling so see you in a week for more scintillating 😂😂😂😂😂

StSwithinsDay · 15/12/2023 23:07

From the Independent.

You need a strong stomach to read Mr Justice Fancourt’s devastating 386-page judgment, published in the High Court today. It is a nauseating catalogue of intrusion, lies, concealment and dishonesty by the very people we rely on to tell us the truth.
It is, in short, a bleak moment for journalism, a trade already beleaguered, distrusted and economically enfeebled.
In a world of information chaos, we need honest witnesses to shine a light into darkness. Instead of which, piece by painful piece, the murky truth about influential sections of the British newspaper industry has been revealed. And the truth is, they don’t much care about the truth – at least when it comes to themselves.
We now know beyond any doubt that a vast number of people in the public eye for two decades were unlawfully tracked, trailed, blagged, hacked and spied on.
We now know that a sizeable industry of private investigators was employed by at least two newspaper groups to do the dirty work. Deniability was all.
We know the dark arts didn’t stop when the information commissioner exposed it more than 20 years ago. They didn’t even stop when a News of the World journalist was arrested in 2006. They didn’t stop when The Guardian revealed a Murdoch Inc boardroom cover-up over payments to victims in 2009. They didn’t even stop with the Leveson inquiry in 2011.
We know that newspaper managements at two of our biggest media companies have consistently concealed and denied the truth about what went on. They have issued dishonest statements and have lied to parliament, the stock exchange, to other journalists, to regulators and even the Leveson inquiry, set up to establish the truth. And now some have been caught telling porkies in court.
Two companies – Murdoch Inc and the Mirror Group – have shelled out more than £1bn in costs and damages, while continuing to deny or admit the truth of what went on. Sadly, millions of emails and documents that might have cast light on the truth have gone missing.
In some cases, the same people are in charge today as were running the company at the height of the scandal, which somehow they failed to notice. Take a bow, Rebekah Brooks, CEO of News UK and a former editor of The Sun and News of the World.
And take a further bow, Piers Morgan, now a star TV presenter for Murdoch Inc and editor of the Daily Mirror for nine years while phone hacking was raging. His newspaper was shelling out hundreds of thousands a year on private investigators using unlawful means to target people in public life, but he somehow failed to notice.
Two judges have now found that unlawful information gathering at the Mirror was “extensive and habitual.” Morgan says – albeit in guardedly narrow terms – he’s innocent. Mr Justice Fancourt begs to differ.
That this grim picture of intrusion, lies and cover-up is finally emerging is down to a handful of decent journalists, among them The Guardian’s Nick Davies – but also a few poachers-turned-gamekeepers who decided enough was enough.
It’s down to some determined lawyers and some forensically rigorous judges. It’s down to an ever-growing roll of brave victims of intrusion who have been queuing to receive out-of-court settlements.
And it’s down to Prince Harry, who has shown quite remarkable courage in pursuing this case to court and submitting to cross-examination – unlike the media executives who hacked and tormented him for so much of his life.
Since launching his legal action, Harry – together with Meghan – has been subjected to an ugly and unremitting barrage of denigration by three newspaper groups he’s suing. I’ve not once seen a single declaration of the evident conflict of interest involved in trying to discredit him. Criticise him, by all means, but be honest about the context.
The Guardian’s revelations about phone hacking were initially met with outright lies by Murdoch Inc, as well as a refusal by the police or regulator to act.
The New York Times joined in – and eventually, the revelation that murdered teenager Milly Dowler’s phone had been hacked led to the Leveson inquiry, which was supposed to be in two parts.
In announcing the inquiry the then prime minister, David Cameron, said the first part would look into broad questions to do with the ethics and culture of newsrooms. Part two – designed to run once the civil actions were exhausted – would look forensically at the extent of unlawful news gathering in the industry.
Guess what? Fleet Street wasn’t keen on part two, for reasons that become apparent every time Murdoch Inc pays off a new group of victims; and which leap out from every single page of Mr Justice Fancourt’s 386-page text.
We can only imagine the backroom pressure applied on a weak Conservative government before the hapless then culture secretary, Matt Hancock, announced in March 2018 that Leveson 2 would be shelved.
“Today marks a great victory for a free and fair press,” chirped Mr Hancock – to cries of “shame” – as he buried the inquiry Cameron had promised.
It was a close-run thing. The House of Lords rejected the axing of the inquiry. Leveson himself protested strongly. But the government eventually won the day by a narrow margin on a second vote in May 2018.
How ironic that it took a prince living in exile to drag out the evidence that the newspaper managers thought they had buried along with the inquiry.
Will he get any credit for it? Dream on. Within hours of the judgment, Morgan was raucously attacking Harry’s credibility.
It’s up to us who to believe.

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EdithWeston · 15/12/2023 23:11

rosyglowcondition · 15/12/2023 21:09

This issue is well known and formed part of the case as presented to the court. Not so much that Harry's phone was hacked, but that members of his close circles were, such as Chelsea Davys, as a way of gaining information on him. Nothing new in this.

Yes, I thought the examples which involved Chelsey Davy (especially UIG - car tracker ) were the strongest ones he put before the court.

EmmaEmerald · 15/12/2023 23:34

Lol at the Indie saying people rely on journos to tell the truth 😂😂😂

Independent have to big up journos, I suppose.

Roussette · 15/12/2023 23:46

Thank you @StSwithinsDay for showing us that piece. It's shocking. And to think the Government shelved Leveson 2. We would not be talking about this in the same way if it had gone ahead.

Whatever anyone says, today is a good day for holding the worst of the media to account.

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