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Thomas Markle is back - right after the Invictus Games

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beatan · 18/09/2023 07:15

What surreptitious timing, Thomas Markle has been wheeled out again, let's hear what he has to say.

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1703638539450089909

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Janiie · 18/09/2023 19:00

Samcro · 18/09/2023 18:54

Sorry what has William got to do with TM?

Erm he's the db who has been subject to the same treatment by Harold that Harold has gone nc with fil for. Not that confusing surely..

Lampzade · 18/09/2023 19:02

Iwantcakeeveryday · 18/09/2023 10:13

I find it really quite awful how many people post here about Megan's family and how she should reconcile or comparing what they've said to what her family have done. Her family are racists, her father tried to blackmail her and threatens her repeatedly. If he was any other male in her life most people would think he's an awful human being who is harassing her. People actually think a parent can treat their child like this, sitting with racists and a sick demented half brother, and should still be forgiven, worse, he should be around her children.

If anyone here would genuinely introduce their children to a man like this who has done what he has to her, I think that says a lot. Meghan has the sense not to let him back in or around her children, not just because of his actions but because that would mean some kind of connection with racist and disturbed people too.

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Lampzade · 18/09/2023 19:06

Roussette · 18/09/2023 12:02

Court papers reveal the extent H&M went to, to try and help him before the wedding. Texts between them. Begging and pleading with him to answer and to let them help him, begging him to stop going to the media, offers of sending the same security people he had met before to fly over to UK with him
He chose his path. $$$$

Exactly

Samcro · 18/09/2023 19:10

Janiie · 18/09/2023 19:00

Erm he's the db who has been subject to the same treatment by Harold that Harold has gone nc with fil for. Not that confusing surely..

Oh so Harry has a you tube Chanel and does black face, like TM son?
harry blackmails William on tv?
i Must have missed this

beatan · 18/09/2023 19:10

I don't know why that one poster is trying to so hard to make this about William, he's irrelevant to this discussion.

This latest stunt from Thomas hasn't gone down well, let's see what he does Next Time on Dragon Ball Z 😂

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derxa · 18/09/2023 19:14

Meghan and Harry will be old one day too. I hope it works out well for them

Janiie · 18/09/2023 19:16

beatan · 18/09/2023 19:10

I don't know why that one poster is trying to so hard to make this about William, he's irrelevant to this discussion.

This latest stunt from Thomas hasn't gone down well, let's see what he does Next Time on Dragon Ball Z 😂

Well it is to do with the rf too as they have been subject to toxic media attention courtesy of.. drum roll....the Sussexes!!

Again, for those struggling to follow TM gossiped to the media. H&M gossiped to the media.

Either be outraged by all or none. You can't choose not to be outraged by Haz's toxic behaviour just because you're Sussex fans.

Lampzade · 18/09/2023 19:22

I think that Meghan and her father had always had a complicated relationship even before she joined the royal family. The father she wrote about in her blogs ( in glowing terms) was the father that she so desperately wanted
I get the impression that Meghan loves her father and has tried to help him(has provided for him financially) but has realised that he is a damaged man and is not a good person.

Daisyislazy · 18/09/2023 19:28

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:14

Meghan and Harry will be old one day too. I hope it works out well for them

Being old has nothing to do with it, fathers who are getting older but have been completely awful don't get a pass because they get older. The pain is never forgotten

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:30

Lampzade · 18/09/2023 19:22

I think that Meghan and her father had always had a complicated relationship even before she joined the royal family. The father she wrote about in her blogs ( in glowing terms) was the father that she so desperately wanted
I get the impression that Meghan loves her father and has tried to help him(has provided for him financially) but has realised that he is a damaged man and is not a good person.

Goodness. Meghan has such high standards for other people. No one is allowed to criticize her though. Apparently.

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:35

Daisyislazy · 18/09/2023 19:28

Being old has nothing to do with it, fathers who are getting older but have been completely awful don't get a pass because they get older. The pain is never forgotten

I think people who are old and sick do get a bit of a pass in my book. I know from professional experience that strokes change people's personalities. TM is not a saint by any stretch of the imagination. He's gullible and influenced by those around. He's probably short of money and has high health care needs in a country like the USA where there is no free health care.

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:36

I question the the character and parenting of anyone that defends TM knowing what they now know about him.

Many posters have informed us about what TM has been doing to Meghan via his YouTube channel and collaborations with those that spread dangerous, racist and vile conspiracy theories about his daughter and grandchildren.

If you still defend him and feel sorry for him then I question your sincerity. You’re using whatever weapon at your disposal to continue your campaign of hate.

I am disgusted with those that use sickness as an excuse. You don’t get a free pass just because you’re ill (unless there is a brain injury and you can’t help yourself).

My daughter has been chronically ill for 10 years and she has never behaved this way towards a single soul. She is kind, compassionate and empathetic. She knows full well that life is short and uses her time to do good. I can’t think of a single child with a chronic illness that behaves like TM.
One of the children that I teach, has had open heart surgery three times! She too is kind, patient and full of love and joy. These children have been tested in ways that some of you and Thomas Markle will never be able to imagine.

So no, save your excuses. Having a heart attack doesn’t justify the abhorrent way TM abuses his daughter. He doesn’t get to have a relationship with the person (and grandchildren) he is abusing just because he’s ill.

Pathetic reasoning.

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:37

Lampzade · 18/09/2023 19:22

I think that Meghan and her father had always had a complicated relationship even before she joined the royal family. The father she wrote about in her blogs ( in glowing terms) was the father that she so desperately wanted
I get the impression that Meghan loves her father and has tried to help him(has provided for him financially) but has realised that he is a damaged man and is not a good person.

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derxa · 18/09/2023 19:39

I am disgusted with those that use sickness as an excuse. You don’t get a free pass just because you’re ill (unless there is a brain injury and you can’t help yourself). But he is brain injured having had a major stroke and has no doubt suffered minor bleeds in the brain previously.

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:40

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:39

I am disgusted with those that use sickness as an excuse. You don’t get a free pass just because you’re ill (unless there is a brain injury and you can’t help yourself). But he is brain injured having had a major stroke and has no doubt suffered minor bleeds in the brain previously.

His abuse started before then.

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:44

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:40

His abuse started before then.

TM's speech has always been slurred in all the time we have known and listened to him. He has never been well during the time since Meghan met Harry.

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:44

FYI if my husband did less than one percent of what Thomas Markle has done, to our daughter, I’d kick him out so fast and so hard his feet wouldn’t have time to touch the ground!

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:45

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:44

TM's speech has always been slurred in all the time we have known and listened to him. He has never been well during the time since Meghan met Harry.

No. It has varied, depending on the situation.

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:47

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:45

No. It has varied, depending on the situation.

Are you a qualified speech and language therapist? I am.

Daisyislazy · 18/09/2023 19:50

I think the stroke wasn't until 2022

colourwheelofortune · 18/09/2023 19:51

I feel sorry for Thomas Markle. I understand completely the reason people go NC with parents, but those are parents with a long history, including childhood, of abuse. None on this is true of TM. He supported and loved her, paying for private schooling, helping her career, and was referred to by her as her dearest father. Her mother was pursuing a career path (ending in bankruptcy unfortunately) and didn't live with meghan for many years. So not the typical NC family.

TM clearly made a huge error of judgement by staging pap shots before the wedding, but who else do we know stages endless pap shots and courts publicity (catastrophic car chase anyone)? That error of judgement cost him his relationship with his daughter, and I think that was harsh from a woman who owed him so much. Does a few staged photos really deserve this cut off? Meghan has form for lopping off unwanted contacts and friendships that have run their course (ex DH, ex BF, ex friends etc) so its unsurprising TM was similarly culled.

Of course his behaviour since then has been appalling, no one will deny that, and he has clearly also been used and exploited by the media. He seems to lack the sophistication and perhaps has been mentally affected by his heart attack and stroke which can affect judgement? A lot of the behaviour I think is just lashing out looking to make the situation better, when its actually making it worse. Lets face it, Harry and Meghan did exactly the same when they didn't get their half in half out deal, and 3 years of bashing the RF looks very like TM's frantic attempts to get noticed.

For a couple who talked about 'family' and friendship at the IG closing ceremony, its a little rich they both show absolutely none to their respective families.

IMO all the people involved are as bad as each other. Their behaviour has nothing to do with #bekind/kindness/family etc, and as such they should all shut up, show some dignity and go their separate ways in peace.

here endeth the lesson!

HeidiInTheBigCity · 18/09/2023 19:58

I'm not into the whole royal circus at all, being a pretty apathetic republican (read: couldn't be bothered to join any movement but would definitely vote to abolish the monarchy in a heartbeat given half a chance).

But, as the daughter of a self-obsessed, hurtful, narcissistic father, I really do feel empathy for Meghan when it comes to her dad!

You see, my own father would say and do pretty much everything Markle says and does when it comes to me: the whole "miss my darling baby girl, why won't she?" shebang.

The ugly truth is: my father loves to brag about his "daughter, who's an engineer and a corporate executive" - especially when it offers him the opportunity to work into his story how I am definitely the product of his superior genes/parenting. He's also never paid a penny for me ever since my parents split when I was 12. And he loves to put me down using sentences such as - yes, I'm being dead serious here and quoting verbatim - "you may be intellectually brilliant, but you're also spiritually retarded", "whoa, you got fat [I'm not; I've a post-COVID BMI of 23 after a lifetime of being considered clinically underweight and having turned 40; I'm a size 8]!", etc.

Thomas Markle reminds me of him a lot. Except: I'm not famous - nobody offers my father the opportunity to do his "woe me, the wronged but loving father!" spiel in the tabloids. He would if he could!

In that sense, I really feel for Meghan.

MissElinorDashwood · 18/09/2023 19:58

derxa · 18/09/2023 19:47

Are you a qualified speech and language therapist? I am.

I remember all the interviews before she left.

derxa · 18/09/2023 20:00

and perhaps has been mentally affected by his heart attack and stroke which can affect judgement? This is true. Stroke patients often suffer from emotional lability ie poor control of emotions,
https://www.stroke.org.uk/effects-of-stroke/emotional-changes
And heart attacks can produce similar effects

Emotional changes

A stroke is sudden and shocking and affects every part of your life. Most people who've had a stroke will experience some kind of emotional change afterwards.The information on this page can be accessed in the following formats: 

https://www.stroke.org.uk/effects-of-stroke/emotional-changes

Iwantcakeeveryday · 18/09/2023 20:04

Even if this is all brain damage from a stroke she is still fully justified in keeping her and her children away from him and his other children he is spending time with, as they are dangerous racists and he is no longer reliable or a safe place for her. Her safety and that of her children are the priority, not her fathers wishes.