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The Duke and Duchess of Sussex at the Invictus Games 2023

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MrsMaxDeWinter · 13/09/2023 11:45

Most of the Invictus threads seem to be filling up, or focused on fairly parochial issues, so I thought, now that Meghan is in Dusseldorf, I would lead us off with a general new thread about Harry and Meghan at Invictus 2023.

Some initial thoughts from me.

The UK tabloid narrative about how much Harry and Meghan are loathed globally is blown apart by the warm and rousing welcome they both received, both separately and together. So the UK tabloids have to dig deep to write eye-rollingly silly stories about Harry being "humiliated" because he did not score a goal during a fun, light-hearted TV appearance to promote the Games.

Invictus clearly means everything to Harry, and it is lovely to see Meghan supporting him, and to remember that it was at Invictus in Toronto that they first went public. The event must have such lovely memories for them both.

Favourite picture: Meghan with Glory Essien, the Nigerian athlete.

The Nigerians have really lit up the tournament. A Kenyan senator who met Harry last week posted on X that she would work on Kenya to be the next African team.

After everything in the last year, it's so lovely to see that Invictus is getting bigger, that Harry is as committed as he has always been to the Games he started, and that Meghan is there to support the veterans, and her husband.

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Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:22

derxa · 16/09/2023 14:16

I don’t know - somehow I think that if Meghan had worn an outfit similar to this, as she did at a previous games she attended, and had not worn 10 different outfits over the last 3 days, I imagine there might have been a bit less talk about her? I know. I don't know how she thought this was a good idea. Maybe she was being paid to model the clothes.

I won't forget this view of yours when your beloved Kate attends various sports events.
I hope to see her melting into the background with one colour polo shirt and joggers on. Wouldn't want her to draw attention away from any competitors in a sport would we...

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:22

ALittleTeawithmilk · 16/09/2023 14:17

Women policing what women wear.

I’m not policing what she wears. She can wear what she likes. I’m pointing out that people’s choices of what they wear can be revealing. Like anyone’s choices can be.

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:24

ALittleTeawithmilk · 16/09/2023 14:17

Women policing what women wear.

⬆️. This

Incredible

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:25

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:22

I’m not policing what she wears. She can wear what she likes. I’m pointing out that people’s choices of what they wear can be revealing. Like anyone’s choices can be.

You put forward a picture of what she should be wearing?

derxa · 16/09/2023 14:26

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:22

I won't forget this view of yours when your beloved Kate attends various sports events.
I hope to see her melting into the background with one colour polo shirt and joggers on. Wouldn't want her to draw attention away from any competitors in a sport would we...

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beloved Kate 😂😂

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:26

ALittleTeawithmilk · 16/09/2023 14:17

Women policing what women wear.

It’s disingenuous. The fact is, she’s still extremely popular, influential and is well loved. The UK propaganda didn’t work. There’s nothing else to pick on. Her outfits didn’t cost thousands so they can’t pick on that.
All they have left is the amount of times she changed her clothes.

Do you know how daft this sounds to reasonable people?

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:27

Love the attempts to take the moral high ground when there’s previously been bitter criticism from Meghan’s supports on MN of what Kate wore to Meghan’s wedding because it was deemed to be attention seeking. Somehow you forgot to be outraged about that?

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:28

Of course. She’s a royal woman.

When it suits the critics.

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:30

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:22

I won't forget this view of yours when your beloved Kate attends various sports events.
I hope to see her melting into the background with one colour polo shirt and joggers on. Wouldn't want her to draw attention away from any competitors in a sport would we...

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Why wait till then? There’s enough material already to fill a thread on Kate.

I won’t do that though. It’s distasteful and frankly a waste of my time.
The Meghan bashers should think about that.

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:31

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:27

Love the attempts to take the moral high ground when there’s previously been bitter criticism from Meghan’s supports on MN of what Kate wore to Meghan’s wedding because it was deemed to be attention seeking. Somehow you forgot to be outraged about that?

I've never said a word on that. Not sure anyone else on this thread has either? No idea

All I know is, Meghan's doing great if this is the level of criticism
Naughty old Meghan in skinny jeans, flats and a vest top! Scandalous!

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:32

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:31

I've never said a word on that. Not sure anyone else on this thread has either? No idea

All I know is, Meghan's doing great if this is the level of criticism
Naughty old Meghan in skinny jeans, flats and a vest top! Scandalous!

Absolutely!
Clutching at straws.
That’s all that’s left.

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:34

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:22

I’m not policing what she wears. She can wear what she likes. I’m pointing out that people’s choices of what they wear can be revealing. Like anyone’s choices can be.

Nope, you’re policing what women wear.

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:34

And the immediately bringing up what Kate wears - surely that’s not up for discussion by you, since you’d be doing exactly what you’re complaining about?

As it happens, when you look at what Kate has worn to sporting events where she is representing Team GB or one of the Home Nations she has invariably worn:

A team GB polo shirt/tshirt/tracksuit jacket
A blazer in red, white or blue (often these are repeated)
Skinny jeans
A team scarf.
A plain suit in either blue or white

She has more recently worn a neutral houndstooth blazer, and then a red and white one to sports matches, but she’s only recently stated attending winter sports matches.

For Wimbledon there is a dress code in the Royal box, so obviously sportswear from her usual uniform is out, plus she’s not supporting any particular player at Wimbledon obviously. She is almost ridiculously committed to wearing Wimbledon colours or vaguely tennis-themed outfits (bright yellow like the balls, prints with dots on them, “tennis whites” etc).

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:38

Good grief Serenster 😮

Pleased to hear Kate is allowed to wear blazers, skinny jeans and various suits. Please allow Meghan that privilege also. Instead of what you linked in your pic.

Your googling skills are stupendous by the way! And so speedy

derxa · 16/09/2023 14:39

Naughty old Meghan in skinny jeans, flats and a vest top! Scandalous! But she didn't stick to that. All of you Meghan cheer leaders should rush off to Royal Style and Beauty and berate them. Their very raison d'etre is critiquing royal fashion. Not just the British RF mind you

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:40

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:34

And the immediately bringing up what Kate wears - surely that’s not up for discussion by you, since you’d be doing exactly what you’re complaining about?

As it happens, when you look at what Kate has worn to sporting events where she is representing Team GB or one of the Home Nations she has invariably worn:

A team GB polo shirt/tshirt/tracksuit jacket
A blazer in red, white or blue (often these are repeated)
Skinny jeans
A team scarf.
A plain suit in either blue or white

She has more recently worn a neutral houndstooth blazer, and then a red and white one to sports matches, but she’s only recently stated attending winter sports matches.

For Wimbledon there is a dress code in the Royal box, so obviously sportswear from her usual uniform is out, plus she’s not supporting any particular player at Wimbledon obviously. She is almost ridiculously committed to wearing Wimbledon colours or vaguely tennis-themed outfits (bright yellow like the balls, prints with dots on them, “tennis whites” etc).

It‘s really not difficult to counter argue this but honestly I’m not that kind of person. I can’t get so worked up over what other women wear. Not even the tax funded billionaire ones. I don’t own her. It’s none of my business.

That’s the point.
Just leave her alone.

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:42

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:34

Nope, you’re policing what women wear.

Am I policing what Melania Trump’s was wearing when I roll my eyes at her visiting the undocumented children detained at the US border wearing a Zara jacket that had written on the back “I really don’t care, do you?” Or am I criticising her choices?

Clothing choices send messages (the semiotics of fashion is well-recognised field). That’s entirely different to “policing” what someone wears.

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:45

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:18

I don’t know - somehow I think that if Meghan had worn an outfit similar to this, as she did at a previous games she attended, and had not worn 10 different outfits over the last 3 days, I imagine there might have been a bit less talk about her?

Oh dear. The hypocrisy and lack of discernment.

She can wear what she likes. She didn’t take attention away from the veterans.

If you were watching the games throughout, you’d know it was extremely hot so a lot of people were changing their clothes multiple times a day (lots of sweaty patches 🙈).

They were attending official meetings (daily) behind the scenes with military delegation, sponsors etc as well as attending the games. Their attire changed accordingly.

This conversation is ridiculous. She isn’t tax funded so why the over the top scrutiny? The fact that you don’t scrutinise the clothes worn by the billionaire, tax funded royals and the attention they take away from their visits, tells me that this ‘criticism’ is disingenuous.

The fact is, she’s a fashionista as is Kate. Get over it.

Bump.

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:46

The fact is, she’s a fashionista as is Kate.

I wish. Sadly, Kate is so NOT a fashionista 🤣

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:47

(She is very considered - possibly too considered - in her clothing choices though).

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:48

Unfortunately, her clothes and their cost, more often than not, takes attention away from her causes too.

It is what it is.

MissElinorDashwood · 16/09/2023 14:49

I won’t bash her over the head with it though.

Serenster · 16/09/2023 14:50

I think you just did…

Janiie · 16/09/2023 14:51

'won't forget this view of yours when your beloved Kate attends various sports events.'

Not aimed at me but why say this?! If I said your beloved Harold I'm pretty sure I'd get a very snippy response.

Anywayyyy well done the participants! Is it the closing ceremony today? Let's hope the Sussexes don't do some faux marching, ott rictus grinning and give a sanctimonious sermon about #beingkind and positive when theyre anything but. Back to the cupboard for H until next time.

Roussette · 16/09/2023 14:51

derxa · 16/09/2023 14:39

Naughty old Meghan in skinny jeans, flats and a vest top! Scandalous! But she didn't stick to that. All of you Meghan cheer leaders should rush off to Royal Style and Beauty and berate them. Their very raison d'etre is critiquing royal fashion. Not just the British RF mind you

I know. I have seen some of her casual clothes. Why should she stuck to that. The RF are like walking wardrobes
It's only Meghan who would get this unfair criticism