The Duke and Duchess of Sussex at the Invictus Games 2023

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

Most of the Invictus threads seem to be filling up, or focused on fairly parochial issues, so I thought, now that Meghan is in Dusseldorf, I would lead us off with a general new thread about Harry and Meghan at Invictus 2023.

Some initial thoughts from me.

The UK tabloid narrative about how much Harry and Meghan are loathed globally is blown apart by the warm and rousing welcome they both received, both separately and together. So the UK tabloids have to dig deep to write eye-rollingly silly stories about Harry being "humiliated" because he did not score a goal during a fun, light-hearted TV appearance to promote the Games.

Invictus clearly means everything to Harry, and it is lovely to see Meghan supporting him, and to remember that it was at Invictus in Toronto that they first went public. The event must have such lovely memories for them both.

Favourite picture: Meghan with Glory Essien, the Nigerian athlete.

The Nigerians have really lit up the tournament. A Kenyan senator who met Harry last week posted on X that she would work on Kenya to be the next African team.

After everything in the last year, it's so lovely to see that Invictus is getting bigger, that Harry is as committed as he has always been to the Games he started, and that Meghan is there to support the veterans, and her husband.

'It's only Meghan who would get this unfair criticism'

🥱

We regularly have critical comments about all of them. Even the poor kids get slated for wearing shorts and looking like 'victorian kids'.

She should have worn clothing suitable for sporting events and left her many outfits for an appropriate time. Tone deaf, the pair of 'em.

I was talking to derxa not you and she took it in the spirit in which it was meant. You really don't have to follow me round picking me up on stuff you know!

The rest of your post is pathetic and unpleasant. You kept the cheap insults to yourself for the beginning of Invictus but your desire to slate them has overcome you obviously, it has been hard for you to cope with this wave of warmth and admiration for them I suppose. Never mind Janiie, it's over soon

Rictus grins? FFS
They are enjoying themselves, the families are all laughing together but H&M are not allowed to I suppose

'was talking to derxa not you and she took it in the spirit in which it was meant. You really don't have to follow me round picking me up on stuff you know!'

I don't follow you around, you're on the same thread as me. If you want to just address one person perhaps try dm?

I think you just did…

Nope.

There’s a lot to criticise about Kate but I’ve never picked on what she wears. I could, but I choose not to. Their clothes will always take attention away from causes. That’s a fact.
A lot of people follow the Royals just for the fashion. They enjoy it. You know there is a whole industry behind it and both women drive sales as a result.

Like I said, it is what it is.
Just leave them both alone.
They can dress as they please.

😂🤣

Did they really? I wasn't really following the RF topic back then. I just couldn't believe Kate wore a pale outfit about a month after giving birth.

'They can dress as they please.'

They can and do, but we're really allowed an opinion as people have critiqued everyone else in the rf on other threads.

But the ‘here’s me a a drive through’, ‘here’s me at a farmer’s market’ don’t seem to happen with U.K. royals

This is not true - I’ve seen pictures of royals in supermarkets, driving around and walking about.

@MissElinorDashwood, I said, of Meghan, that “ if Meghan had worn an outfit similar to this, as she did at a previous games she attended, and had not worn 10 different outfits over the last 3 days, I imagine there might have been a bit less talk about her?”

You then said of these words that they had hypocrisy and lack of discernment., and that Meghan can wear what she likes - she didn’t take attention away from the veterans.

You said, of Kate, “Unfortunately, her clothes and their cost, more often than not, takes attention away from her causes too”.

So Kate’s clothing choices in your opinion more often than not take attention away from her causes.

We both made exactly the same comment about Meghan and Kate respectively - that their clothing choices can take attention away from their causes. Amusing that you called me a hypocrite though when you went on to express exactly the same view. 😀

But they are not looking directly at the camera and grinning. They don't want their photo taken in those situations

Beloved Kate !!?

Not sure such a snide comment is needed!

Hahahah. It really is like their daily chant.

Meditation

Maybe they will have a rest after this since they want privacy. Oh wait a minute. Meghan is writing her memoirs. Not exactly a good way to shake of media attention. But this is Harry and Meghan don't forget.

Meghan is not responsible for the fact people will choose to focus on what she wears. Once again, she is being blamed for what others choose to focus on. She is not responsible for the moral choices you make. If people are decent, they'll be able to admire what a woman wears AND give their time and attention to the events themselves. If you're moaning about her wearing anything too expensive, thats your choice to focus on it.

I find it incredibly misogynistic to suggest a woman should change what she wears to accommodate the judgement of unreasonable people. She is not responsible for the misogyny that is the constant and unpleasant scrutiny over what women wear.

and that Meghan can wear what she likes - she didn’t take attention away from the veterans.

She didn’t. I stand by that. There was global coverage of the veterans which didn’t diminish just because of what she wore.
Honestly, I’ve paid close attention to the games and the reporting and it’s the UK press (and the usual suspects) that have pretty much ignored the veterans but have focused on Meghan. That’s not surprising though.

We both made exactly the same comment about Meghan and Kate respectively - that their clothing choices can take attention away from their causes. Amusing that you called me a hypocrite though when you went on to express exactly the same view.

There’s a big difference in the way we express ourselves. Please don’t compare me to you. I don’t try to police what Kate wears and neither do you. You just try to police what Meghan wears - hence the hypocrisy and lack of discernment.

There’s a big difference in the way we express ourselves.

You are quite right about that - I’ve not been rude about you, for starters.

I don't understand why she's been handing out medals, her desperation knows no bounds. I think Harry has done brilliantly, I'm not a fan of any of the Royals to be honest, but you can tell he's genuinely passionate about his military service and about veterans; he had a good balance of being a part of the games and stepping back. Someone with no connection to the military aside from being married to someone who used to be in the military lite feeling like they need to grace the veterans with their continued presence and centering in ceremonial parts is weird AF but completely on brand. Before someone says WhAt AbOuT KaTe I think their involvement with the military for those who haven't served is weird too.

Oh my goodness.
This is so embarrassing.

Ok, I’m checking out of this conversation now.

Be well everyone and enjoy the sunshine ✌🏼

Meghan is writing her memoirs, where?

Did she announced it in the dreams of a deranged youtuber?

Those on here who don't think he had an abusive childhood because he was bought up in money have no idea.

Affluent abuse, which it is called is real. Money and privilege don't buy you a decent childhood. I know that for a fact as I lived it. Thank god mine was in the private arena and not public.

As for H and M responding to it. They had hundreds of thousands of articles and books written about them vilifying them.

They are allowed to respond. I bet you would. Those of you moaning about them have not sat and read Spare or watched the documentaries with an open mind.

Those I know who have been shocked
The racism in this country and the death threats to M life are real. There are interviews with the police on this

The info is our there of them being vilified, but some of you just want to hold them responsible for standing up for themselves.

You see money some of you and think they haven't had any problems. Rubbish.

As for Charles, he said far more than his childhood being cold. He was openly hostile and deogratory about his parents. Chatles affair never stopped. He was shagging Camilla the night before he married. Diana was used as a breeding machine and abused. No, she wasn't perfect. However, she was in emotional abuse. The interview she did she was conned into on a lie by Martin Bashir, which came out recently

We don't pay for H & M. They make their own money. M had her own money when she came into the RF. She was a multi millionaire in her own right.

To be blunt, some of the vile newspapers' journos have said the lies and twisted truths have come out of KP and William office. The reason: H and M were too popular here. That couldn't happen

Also, it's known that W & K marriage is in trouble, so this is another cover of making up rubbish about them.

They always knew M would leave. H wasn't supposed to go. They've never gotten over it.

As for Invictis and camera shots, very good photos and Zoom on the mobiles bring excellent shots. The Sun was spotted at Invictus this week. He ducked down out of the way fuming, he had got in.

Look at the type of people who have slated them. They are a demographic of mysogonist and right-wing racists
Piers Morgan

Jeremy Clarkson
Dan Wooton
Paul Burrell
Angela Levin
Nanaa
Nigel Farage
Eamon Holmes
Petrilina Wyatt
Richard Madely
Phillip Schofield
Danny Baker
Spencer Morgan
Lady Camilla Tominely
Carol Malone
Megan McCain
Julie Hartley-Brewer
Darren Grimes
Sarah Vine
Lord Sugar

The list goes on. I'm not saying H & M are perfect. No one is. The media who say they are irrelevant keep bringing them up. Why? Cos they are worth millions to them in clickbait.

You don't have to understand why she's handing out medals, she is the founder's wife and will be as involved as the founder and organisers want her to be.

It's a sad life to leech off of your partners achievements and feel the need to insert yourself- as I said, desperate! Plenty of people do good things and have supportive partners who cheer them on, offer emotional and logistical support and yet still don't feel the need to centre themselves. We're all entitled to our opinions, and no I'll never understand someone so self obsessed that they feel the need to do this.

How do you know Harry hasn't asked her to? what if part of the support Harry wants is her handing out medals beside him, as a team. He's spoken about how happy he is to have Meghan beside him at Invictus, yet you've turned it into her leeching off him.

I think it's quite desperate and sad of you to jump to conclusions.

Uh, I'm in that thread and posters aren't in there endlessly whinging about whether she (or others) should be wearing polos instead.

They actually discuss, you know, style. Whether they like the outfit, colour, fit, shoes, accessories.

Quite like that thread myself!

I can only pity this post and you. I hope that whatever has caused you to harbour such resentment and bitterness towards someone you have never met, improves for you and your life gets better.