Heart of Invictus Well done that man!

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Prince Harry keeping it real

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Most things now a day are inspired from something else.

Kates early years stuff is hardly groundbreaking new nor is Williams let's grt rid of homelessness nor let's tackle mental health

Seriously grasping now!

This!

The desperation - it's convincing no-one, and absolutely hilarious. 😆😆😆

The Invictus Games were founded by
Harry, as patron of The Royal Foundation of The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and Prince Harry, the Ministry of Defense, and Sir Keith Mills. The inspiration came from Prince Harry's 2013 visit to the Warrior Games. He is still the patron and founder of the Invictus Games.

The POW is the founder and patron of the Centre for Early Childhood. You wouldn’t say that it isn’t her project because it’s through the Royal Foundation nor would you say that other projects focus on early childhood so no one should acknowledge her efforts in this area when they do bear fruit. It’s churlish to do it when it comes to Harry but I get that the point.

Their work through their individual projects may yet come up with something tangible - we should wait and see.

The point is that individually as part of the foundation they are in they have their own projects and it would be nitpicking to say that William’s homelessness initiative is the Royal Foundation initiative likewise with Kate’s. Harry founded Invictus when he was part of the Royal Foundation -therefore it is his project.

Most projects are inspired by something else and I agree the early years initiative isn't very original or groundbreaking. My issue is the way H continues to put himself and his wife in the spotlight. Why on earth did M give a speech at the games in Germany?
Eunice Shriver created the Special Olympics. Undoubtedly her name and connections were extremely important in making it a success. As it grew, she stayed in the background and said it should be about the foundation, not one person. The Prince's Trust doesn't need Charles to show up at events to be a success. If something is to succeed in the long run, it shouldn't be focused around one person.

My issue is the way H continues to put himself and his wife in the spotlight. Why on earth did M give a speech at the games in Germany?

Mine too. Meghan should very much take a back seat in this context. Support Harry, take an interest in the individual veterans, yes, but speeches and fashion parades, no.

Am I really the only person whose jaw has dropped at the designer clothing display she's put on? AND they charged to attend!! Surely M already had an anorak and some joggers she could have used - but apparently it's all new stuff The Invictus Wardrobe, or whatever. And people on this thread seem perfectly happy to gushingly salivate over it, whereas it strikes me as a horrendous, vulgar, materialistic display, old puritan that I am.

I need to go and live on a remote island...

I totally agree however was roundly ticked off for asking the semi lighthearted question of how many coats does one woman need for 3 days . It appears that some posters wear 3 different coats a day as the norm so why shouldn’t Meghan ? I suppose the difference is that the majority of posters here buy their own clothes .

I think we can all agree that Harry is a genuine supporter of Invictus.

HOWEVER the Canadian jaunt was ott. The icing on the cake was the banquet and Michael Buble’s Harry tribute - veering well off-piste (boom boom!) from actual participants in the games.

The optics aren’t great and the expenses definitely need investigating before they grow even more preposterous before the real event next year.

That's realistic, but it doesn't stop Invictus being a force for good, and for me the interests of the vets stand a great deal higher than Harry's

I can imagine a time though, if he doesn't get his image sorted, where he might need to be eased aside in favour of someone who's concern lies more with the organisation than himself

@CoffeeCantata do we actually know that they "charged to attend", or come to that whether the widely touted charging the wardrobe to Invictus is true?
I'm genuinely not aware either way, but would be interested to learn

I completely agree H genuinely cares about the veterans. Who wouldn't tbh? However if he wants it to thrive long term, it can't just be about him. Having Michael Buble in Whistler was a good thing. There needs to be more celebrities, politicians etc seen to be supporting it.

And this is the crux of the matter - there is nothing that Meghan can do except not exist that will satisfy anyone.

Why on earth did M give a speech at the games in Germany?

She gave an informal speech at a reception - not a formal one opening and closing the games like she did at Invictus 2018. But other people who dislike Meghan feel that she didn’t speak up enough.

Am I really the only person whose jaw has dropped at the designer clothing display she's put on?

No you are not - many people always complain about the cost of Meghan’s clothing. Harry is equally kitted out in designer wear but it is very rare for people to have jaw dropping reactions to his wear. I wonder why.

AND they charged to attend!!

Citation needed.

Surely M already had an anorak and some joggers she could have used - but apparently it's all new stuff

She could not have worn an anorak and joggers in the snow in Whistler. And no - it wasn’t all new stuff.

It appears that some posters wear 3 different coats a day as the norm so why shouldn’t Meghan ? I suppose the difference is that the majority of posters here buy their own clothes

Not my recollection of the conversation. However citation needed for the premise that Meghan does not buy her own clothes.

I have only praise for IG and for Harry’s role in it. I think the clothes are fun. The Bublè thing was OTT but it’s not really a big deal and not Harry’s fault.

Everything is inspired by something. That’s an odd criticism.

'And this is the crux of the matter - there is nothing that Meghan can do except not exist that will satisfy anyone.'

Bit dramatic there. No one has suggested either 'don't exist' rather stop posing and attention seeking. IG is about the vets those 2 grinning are not required. Yes he's patron but as has been said it's time he read the room and passed the baton but he won't because he needs them more than they need him.

stop posing and attention seeking

Meghan walking, talking, smiling and existing is considered posing and attention seeking by people who don’t like her.

it's time he read the room and passed the baton

Which room? The veterans themselves have said they want him there.

@skullbabe
It appears that some posters wear 3 different coats a day as the norm so why shouldn’t Meghan ? I suppose the difference is that the majority of posters here buy their own clothes

Not my recollection of the conversation.

As a wise old lady once said - some recollections may vary .

Well maybe they want to stay more involved than other people who have stepped back? Why is anyone judging their choices endlessly. I mean ffs if they don't step back it's all nasty reasons of other people don't step back it's all wonderful comments about what they are doing.

As I've said before none of you will be happy until they are dead. Or homeless and lost everything in life.

When there was a period of time where they were quiet nothing being reported on them, there were still threads taking Why are they quiet? what are they plotting?

I completely agree H genuinely cares about the veterans

So do I - at least I hope so - but the two things aren't mutually exclusive and it's perfectly possible to care while also using a cause for self-publicity in the hope of polishing an image

Just like some other members of the RF ...

do we actually know that they "charged to attend", or come to that whether the widely touted charging the wardrobe to Invictus is true?
I'm genuinely not aware either way, but would be interested to learn

Yes - me too. I'm not suggesting, by the way, that Invictus paid for The Wardrobe (God forbid!! That thought didn't occur to me), but the cost of it annoys me for 2 reasons:

1. The shocking display of wealth. I take the point she needs a seriously warm outfit, but a different one each day??? I find it vulgar and highly inappropriate for the event. It's not a Hollywood premiere and it's not fitting that attention should be on anyone but the veterans.

2. The standard of luxurious living which H & M think they are entitled to is, to me, shocking. Why does M need SUCH expensive clothes and why does she need a new outfit for every public occasion? Princess Anne is famous for turning up to her gigs in well-worn and pretty unremarkable clothes*, because she gets it: it's not about her. It's about the people she's there to shine a light on. I don't know if the rumours of financial problems for H & M are true, but if so, I'm not ruddy well surprised. They both of them (agree H too should start looking in M & S for his gear) need to wind their materialistic necks in and stop spending so ridiculously.

I suspect H's spending is on his polo habit etc, while M HAS to have a better dress than everyone else - both equally guilty in their own way.

I tell you what: they both behave as if they're either Hollywood A-listers or royalty, and the problem is, they're neither. But who's going to tell them??😂

*She came to open a new centre for the charity I worked for in low-heeled seude boots, a tweed skirt, jumper and a warm coat - none of which looked new or particularly trendy. We were out in the country, before anyone suggests she was being disrespectful - there was mud involved.

The stepping back of a charity when you are a founder especially to a charity that is reliant on sponsorship, bidding and fundraising is a sign that the charity is doing exactly as hoped. That doesn’t mean not participating completely, just a more withdrawn presence a difficult line to tread but possible. It also a safeguard to both sides from backlash. I can imagine both Invictus and Harry are glad that the games are next year as opposed to now with the Gaza conflict.

Absolutely.

The veterans LOVE Harry and Meghan, as does the entire Invictus community. the events are a huge success for those participating, and for many of those watching. The 'normal' (as opposed to unhinged UK) press coverage of the One Year to Go event has been overwhelmingly positive, and most people are hugely complementing of Harry and Meghan's role in raising the profile of Invictus.

Everyone's happy, except for some sour-grapes who can't stand that anything that Harry and Meghan do is successful, and recognised as such. Their ever-so subtly disguised goal is that Harry and Meghan are booted out of Invictus, so their favourite royals can take over. So it'll be dig, dig, dig, try to find scandal, amplify any little negative piece of non-news (someone resigned from Invictus to take another job elsewhere - ever so shocking! clearly a sign that Invictus is failing!!!), and bring on the Coat Police and the How Much Meghan's Clothes Cost Special Forces Brigade! Who cares what the vets think? It's what a few posters think that matters!

It's is absolutely and utterly hilarious - keep it comin' guys! I'm sure the management at Invictus are actively listening, and planning to get rid of Harry and Meghan soon, ha-ha-ha!!! 😆😆😆

It's is absolutely and utterly hilarious - keep it comin' guys! I'm sure the management at Invictus are actively listening, and planning to get rid of Harry and Meghan soon, ha-ha-ha!!! 😆😆😆

A bit of an over-reaction...

With Invictus, go Harry, I say, but maybe make do with the same clothes you both wore when last skiing etc?? Not an unreasonable idea, and they are both supposed to be eco-conscious, aren't they? I'm amazed so few people on here seem to feel as I do. It's just wasteful ostentation, to me.

I'm not suggesting, by the way, that Invictus paid for The Wardrobe

I know you weren't, @CoffeeCantata, but it's been widely said by others and since this is about Invictus it seemed a reasonable time to ask if anyone knows whether it's true or just more rubbish designed to discredit them

I suspect many of the clothes are sent for free in exchange for the publicity. A good stylist can make that happen, and the clothes did get center stage here.

If she has paid for the clothes, what's the problem? She can wear what she likes, buy what she likes... just because you wouldnt pay those prices or chnage your clothes that often doesn't mean other people should

Totally. Meghan got the clothes perfectly right.

She had lots of different types of events to attend, from piste-side events to a gala dinner and an evening with leaders of indigenous nations. She got each event down to a tee - not too much, not too little.

I wouldn't be surprised if the vets, who this is all about, are actually very happy to see Meghan making an effort to dress appropriately (down or up as needed), and see it as a sign of respect.

Why on earth should she dress down for vets and indigenous nations but not for other glam events she's seen at? The criticism if she did that would be even more unhinged!

All very entertaining... 😆😆😆