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Omid Scobie writing tell all book

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CosmosQueen · 29/06/2023 07:23

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”

As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

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Samcro · 12/07/2023 16:51

Roussette · 12/07/2023 16:27

It's because there's nothing new to criticise and people have to feed their desire to knock the couple.

So true, hidden in plain sight, same old same old

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 17:01

The couple hurt the queen in the last months of her life very badly. They knew what they were doing and how explosive their lies and embellishments were. The Oprah interview went out as prince phillip went into hospital for the last time and days before he died. To do this to a family who had loved harry all his life and treated Meghan far better than they treated Diana and even Kate, is so despicable in my book it doesn't matter how 'old' the story is.

How convenient to be told to forget an enormous hurt inflicted on a family who were unable to respond and defend themselves. Do you seriously think people should just forget? No. There has been no apology. No retraction. No regret expressed. A lie left hanging over a family for 2 years and destroying a reputation that took years to build. To forgive and forget you need closure in the form of an apology.

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 17:02

Maybe people should stop minimising the hurt the couple caused.

Roussette · 12/07/2023 17:08

Samcro · 12/07/2023 16:51

So true, hidden in plain sight, same old same old

Yes. Very predictable.

Samcro · 12/07/2023 17:46

Oh give over with the can’t respond or defend themselves.
they choose not to say anything, that is their choice.
the palace leaks like a sieve

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 18:31

Samcro · 12/07/2023 17:46

Oh give over with the can’t respond or defend themselves.
they choose not to say anything, that is their choice.
the palace leaks like a sieve

So the Archbishop of Canterbury is a palace employee?

Has William given his side of dogbowlgate? Not heard it.

Have the palace released the bullying dossier?

Have they responded re the security and titles issue? It doesn't take the palace to see this is BS, it's public knowledge

There's been zero pushback on the suicidal talk.

Etc etc

All their false allegations have been debunked by common sense and research

If you have evidence to the contrary say what it is. So easy to make a dishonest statement and offer no evidence

Maireas · 12/07/2023 18:38

Have the palace said, well Archie and Lilibet are Prince and Princess, so all that "titles linked to colour" was baloney?

Samcro · 12/07/2023 18:42

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 18:31

So the Archbishop of Canterbury is a palace employee?

Has William given his side of dogbowlgate? Not heard it.

Have the palace released the bullying dossier?

Have they responded re the security and titles issue? It doesn't take the palace to see this is BS, it's public knowledge

There's been zero pushback on the suicidal talk.

Etc etc

All their false allegations have been debunked by common sense and research

If you have evidence to the contrary say what it is. So easy to make a dishonest statement and offer no evidence

What are you on about?
they chose not to speak out

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 18:48

Samcro · 12/07/2023 18:42

What are you on about?
they chose not to speak out

That was my question! Someone has quite the imagination.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 18:49

Has William given his side of dogbowlgate? Not heard it.

Yup, it appeared, as told by one of his friends in the book Battle of the brothers , released before Spare.

Maireas · 12/07/2023 18:53

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 18:49

Has William given his side of dogbowlgate? Not heard it.

Yup, it appeared, as told by one of his friends in the book Battle of the brothers , released before Spare.

What did he say? Was he taking directly to the author?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 18:58

Maireas · 12/07/2023 18:53

What did he say? Was he taking directly to the author?

of course not, he's a coward, he gets his friends to tell the story... minus the bit where he hit his brother, otherwise it was the exact same story.

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 18:59

So link what was said. I can't find a direct statement from William or even an alleged conversation

So easy to make allegations that are unsubstantiated

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 19:00

@Iwantcakeeveryday So what is the story?

Maireas · 12/07/2023 19:06

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 18:58

of course not, he's a coward, he gets his friends to tell the story... minus the bit where he hit his brother, otherwise it was the exact same story.

Right. So you know that William told the story to the author.
The story omits the hitting of Harry.
Is the dog bowl referred to?

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 19:07

well where else is it coming from? The exact story, as Harry confirmed it, without the part that makes William look bad. Its been discussed here before. Only William and Harry were there.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 19:07

Robert Lacey says it came from a friend of Williams.

Maireas · 12/07/2023 19:10

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 19:07

Robert Lacey says it came from a friend of Williams.

How did the story differ from the Spare version?

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 19:13

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/07/2023 19:07

Robert Lacey says it came from a friend of Williams.

So direct from the palace not?

DollyTheFluffyOne · 12/07/2023 21:21

Roussette · 12/07/2023 17:08

Yes. Very predictable.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Mackerson · 12/07/2023 23:15

Maireas · 12/07/2023 19:06

Right. So you know that William told the story to the author.
The story omits the hitting of Harry.
Is the dog bowl referred to?

How about the broken necklace?

Cherrymuffincake202 · 13/07/2023 06:06

DollyTheFluffyOne · 12/07/2023 16:32

Lies remain lies however old they are. They build a picture. They destroy or make reputations.

And true events and facts skewed and manipulated by the press also destroy reputations.

Btw, our priest read out the entire essential vows of our marriage service at the rehearsal the night before the ceremony, and another retired priest there who was a member of the family said we were now technically married. So Meghan may not be lying about what happened. I imagine that they would rehearse every single word of a wedding ceremony that is going to be broadcast to millions.

Annalisea · 13/07/2023 06:22

Cherrymuffincake202 · 13/07/2023 06:06

And true events and facts skewed and manipulated by the press also destroy reputations.

Btw, our priest read out the entire essential vows of our marriage service at the rehearsal the night before the ceremony, and another retired priest there who was a member of the family said we were now technically married. So Meghan may not be lying about what happened. I imagine that they would rehearse every single word of a wedding ceremony that is going to be broadcast to millions.

Everyone who gets married has a rehearsal if it’s a Church wedding. None of us believe the actual ceremony is just going through the motions. Especially if it’s costing someone else a fortune.

smilesy · 13/07/2023 07:04

Cherrymuffincake202 · 13/07/2023 06:06

And true events and facts skewed and manipulated by the press also destroy reputations.

Btw, our priest read out the entire essential vows of our marriage service at the rehearsal the night before the ceremony, and another retired priest there who was a member of the family said we were now technically married. So Meghan may not be lying about what happened. I imagine that they would rehearse every single word of a wedding ceremony that is going to be broadcast to millions.

Of course they rehearsed. Like everyone does, as said above. They rehearsed for the Coronation too. I don’t think that means the King was “technically” crowned in a private ceremony

Cherrymuffincake202 · 13/07/2023 07:12

costacoughee · 12/07/2023 17:01

The couple hurt the queen in the last months of her life very badly. They knew what they were doing and how explosive their lies and embellishments were. The Oprah interview went out as prince phillip went into hospital for the last time and days before he died. To do this to a family who had loved harry all his life and treated Meghan far better than they treated Diana and even Kate, is so despicable in my book it doesn't matter how 'old' the story is.

How convenient to be told to forget an enormous hurt inflicted on a family who were unable to respond and defend themselves. Do you seriously think people should just forget? No. There has been no apology. No retraction. No regret expressed. A lie left hanging over a family for 2 years and destroying a reputation that took years to build. To forgive and forget you need closure in the form of an apology.

How do you know they loved Harry all of his life? He obviously doesn’t feel that loved by his family atm. I think a lot of his actions stem from profound hurt. I think they would have been much wiser to treat him better.

Harry has said that he tried to open discussions with the RF privately behind closed doors many times and it was only having been met with silence or constant rebuffals that he took the action he did.

Also, I think it’s unfortunate that his situation and role within the RF was being considered at a time when the pandemic was a factor and when power was being transferred from the Queen to PC , with neither one fully in charge, and I think his case was not handled as well as it might have been considering those circumstances.

I’m sorry, this may not be a popular view but despite them being stalwart and dutiful, I do not regard the Queen and Prince Philip as these kind, approachable, avuncular figures that everyone else seems to regard them as.

I think they were both extremely tough individuals who were very single minded in preserving the status quo and the continuation of the monarchy and I think they ran “the Firm” quite ruthlessly along those lines by excluding anyone who dared to question, challenge or damage it in any way.

The Crown comes first, ahead of personal feelings, marriages, even sound relationships with your own children or grandchildren. To be fair to them, I am sure Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth applied these rigorous rules to themselves too.

And they resisted change. Remember the Queen having to be dragged kicking and screaming to pay more tax? Remember her head in sand approach to many controversies?

They are quite ruthless and beautifully obscure about finances too which was a factor in Harry’s complaints.

Both Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth were from an age and a tradition where mental health was not discussed or acknowledged and was seen as a moral failing.

And for all of his good qualities Prince Philip was a known racist - if you can joke about slitty eyes in public on an official engagement - what are you saying in the privacy of your own home? His character was also said to be bullying by some.

And apologies if this offends anyone but it’s pretty well documented now that PP had mistresses, the latter of whom attended his funeral, so they obviously didn’t see it as hypocritical to present the appearance of having a happy functional family to the public, while acting differently in private.

I am not saying that everything Meghan and Harry have done is perfect - but I can well believe that she was met with racism, snobbery and outright opposition within palace walls right from the outset - and I can imagine her being labelled as “trouble” simply because she did challenge some instructions and traditions and she wouldn’t blindly obey.

Everything about her hustling self made sensibility totally clashed with the creaking hierarchical traditions of the palace and her being black and an outspoken confident woman probably didn’t help in an institution that harbours strong elements of racism and misogyny within its walls.

So many people have swallowed the tabloid spin on all of this. As we have seen this week the tabloids spin facts and deliberately set out to destroy individual reputations. And they now have a stranglehold over the monarchy and the BBC and many other important institutions too who are all afraid of their power. Everyone is dancing to their tune. I can well believe that PC and QC have sacrificed their relationship with Harry in order to preserve their own standing with the press.

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