Omid Scobie writing tell all book

[CosmosQueen]

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”
As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

No.

My point was - we have absolutely no idea what she approved. We have idea what she knew , sakd or understood,
Renemcer the statement that was issued in William and Harry’s name when Harry knew nothing about it ?
THAT.

It’s a ridiculous Byzantine farce and no way to run a head of state office

But Harry’s story was different to Meghan’s.

Kate said the flower girls dresses would have to be remade etc

And the phrase ‘recollections may vary ‘
is not the win they think it is

Its snide and slippery .

Which may be why we are now seeing it being foisted on to Kate

@Novella4

In your opinion.

Agree with all of this.

Snide and slippery.

Will be used against them. In fact, it already is used against them, hence it has to be foisted on Kate out of the blue.

To pp asking me to show them the posts;
Firstly, I don’t pay for subscription so search and advanced search are clunky. (I assume it is better if you pay?) I’ve got better things to do than spend hours trying to scroll back anyway and looking for threads that might contain the phrases. Plus, I couldn’t bring the posters names from old threads to here. Only days ago, I reposted a couple of sentences a pp had bought over from another thread about Meghan, and a poster was very unpleasant about my post - so no.

Secondly, those posters who said ‘as the queen, a wise old woman once said’ or similar, well, they know they said it. They know they were wrong about this now. I know it was said by different posters and that’s enough for me. I don’t make stuff up. I think I’ve been on here long enough for other posters to have realised that. Making stuff up to win a debate would just be a complete waste of time. As in, what’s the point?

'snide and slippery' or perhaps polite and restrained. What did you want them to say? The statement avoided a slanging match and made the point that Harry and Meghan's outpourings were perhaps not 100% accurate (which is the case).

Thank you - all of your post was what I was trying to say !

All of the above has serious implications when you stop and think about it
It’s a mess

It’s not that complicated… communications professionals are hired to express the sentiments of their clients. They would either have been informed or expected to know already what the Queen wished to express and then drafted that into a statement. The Queen may have wanted to include certain words but more likely she expressed a general sentiment. The professionals put that into words. The Queen then Ok’ed the message as it is her statement, and consulted with her heirs and their families because it affected them too, before it was released. The statement was released in her name. The fact many people had input into the wording doesn’t mean that either they were not really her words, or that you have been deceived in some way 😂

Exactly. I doubt anyone on this thread is going to change their opinion, but I thought it was far more sensible than being dragged into a slanging match.

I am not sure there's any evidence that QE2 was 'just a front' towards the end. My father died in his 90s, and although he got frailer and frailer physically he was completely together mentally. Plus, as it became clear he was reaching the end, we (his family) and the staff in his residential home spent time talking with him about various scenarios, and what he would like us to do depending on circumstances. So whatever we did, and whatever decisions we made, would be in line with his wishes.

I don't think there's any evidence that the family and staff around QE2 were railroading her, or not acting in line with her wishes. She was meeting weekly with the PM until she went to Balmoral, wasn't she?

Of course Harry would think she was getting 'bad advice' - because she was saying 'no' to what he wanted!

Also tbh Harry’s suggestion that the Queen was a confused old lady who needed his protection against her own staff that she had hired and that she couldn’t judge who and what was in her own best interests was ageist, sexist, patronising, and delusional.

It never fails to amaze me how many posters who clearly dislike the Royal Family ( apart from the sainted M and H) spend so much time on the RF board .
I am not keen on horses ( apologies to horse lovers) so I don’t get involved on that board . Maybe I should go on and post how much I dislike horses ?

@tigger2022

I know, horrible comments to make,

tbh the royal family board is also the place to come if you want to complain about people who like horses 😂

Very true @tigger2022 😂

I don't care about any of them actually, except that I've noticed the amount of shit that's thrown at Harry & Meghan is so ridiculously out of proportion to anything that they've actually done it beggars belief. It is something for the history books

I think that the history books will be looking at Meghan marrying into RF, leaving and going home, and why she left. And why one of the King’s only two sons went with her etc..what influenced their decisions etc.

A lot of the historical study will be on the populace’s reaction to it all. And will examine why the people reacted that way, and what other factors were happening in society that caused the people to have such strong opinions. The opinions for & against, and down the middle. Who had those opinions etc.. divided societies in general etc..

Similar to you, Rousette, I roll my eyes at some of the stuff M&H have done. Basically though i do like them, as much as a person can like any distant famous figure. I think the criticisms of them have been outsized and certainly over the top and relentless. I feel that Meghan has been attacked unfairly. A large part of why I’m so interested is the media. What the media is doing. And why the media are so relentlessly attacking an American WOC with impunity?

To me it's clear as day that the queen was not running things - maybe she thought she was. Tbh, it seems like even William and Charles are under a lot of heavy 'influence' from some quarters. Remember even in the olden days with Margaret not marrying the man she really wanted, nor Charles ?

Later, in Spare, we can see the shift from Charles and William against Meghan - even though they liked her at the start when interacting with he. Later, without much interaction the view of her changes - you have to ask yours how their views change from positive interactions to have suddenly turned to bad view- without interaction. They were told/advised/whispered into their ears, is how.

So, what I say is, not just at a high level, but also on a micro level, the 'family' is always under influence from other people - especially those in line of heir.

it was a horrid thing to say.

Why? What was 'horrid' about it? What did you expect the RF to say?

If they had said ‘she’s a lying skank’ I could understand the ‘horrid’ statement, but the usual suspects are getting up in arms because Kate has been attached to it.

@Morestrangerthings
I think that the history books will be looking at Meghan marrying into RF, leaving and going home, and why she left. And why one of the King’s only two sons went with her etc..what influenced their decisions etc.

They left because they didn’t get their own way . Simple.

it was but sadly not uncommon. People who say these kinds of things seem to have a problem with a simple, I'm sorry, that shouldn't have been said.

I agree that there will be mild interest in some history books. Whether they come to the same conclusions as you - or any of us - have remains to be seen.

On the whole, though, I suspect it will be a bit of a footnote.

The whole 'QE2 was just a front' stuff is a bit too conspiracy theory-ish for me to seriously consider, in the absence of any indications other than Harry's ramblings.

People who say these kinds of things seem to have a problem with a simple, I'm sorry, that shouldn't have been said.

Given no-one was told what was said, or by whom, that would have been a bit difficult.

Was it any more horrid than “service is universal”?