Omid Scobie writing tell all book

[CosmosQueen]

The biographer of the Duke and Duchess of Sussexwarned that his next book will reveal moments that the Royal family should be “ashamed of”.
Omid Scobie claimed he was one of few journalists writing about the Royal family whose work was impartial and “spin-free”
As such, he said his forthcoming book, provocatively titled Endgame: Inside the Royal Family and the Monarchy’s Fight for Survival, would focus on the negative as much as the positive and would shine a light on “unsolved mysteries”
“Endgame not only looks at the successes of our Royal family but also the failures; the things to be proud of and those they should be ashamed of,” he wrote in the I newspaper

Just when will this end? I feel so sorry for their poor children who will have to live with the knowledge that their parents and his obnoxious individual were prepared to do anything to make money.

Seems to be happening to me, though, as this post is being repeatedly slammed as wrong.

And I stand by it. Any and many posts and posters get closely examined. It happens to everyone.

What may vary, if a poster is disagreed with or factually corrected, is the tenacity and relevance of the response.

(Even factual corrections can provoke some posters to argue back and make accusations about others' intentions. Don't want to cite an example, because I'll be accused of picking on, but there's an example in this very thread).

And of course derailing thread into a discussion of posters can lead to deletion, so I sometimes wonder if that's deliberate.

So will happily also recognise that interpretations, like recollections, may vary

(and leave this strand of thought at that)

Spotted Spare in a charity shop - 75p ! Still didn’t buy it tho’.

I wish posters wouldn’t act as a cabal. I have never talked off board to anybody or called up my flying monkeys. It’s very Sussex Squaddy. I’m not saying posters are SS before anyone jumps down my throat, but some do behave like besotted fans, unable to see the least flaw in their idols.

The conversation has moved on @WinnieTheW0rm - I commented on your post before I had seen the progression. I will note that I particularly commented because your comment was objectively wrong. And it appears other people felt so too.

The difference between the scrutiny that myself and all of us other posters are subjected to compared to the scrutiny the poster we are speaking about is significant and it is observable. That’s the difference - this poster will have people pulling issues from other threads into the one they are in, targeting from new posters (seemingly out of nowhere) and name callling. Repeatedly. This is because this poster is easily identifiable.

Anyway - back to the thread and the book. Apologies for the derail.

I don't know if she has or has not. And neither do you.

But supposing she is doing any PR is that a reason for such hatred? Do you hate every other celebrity that also uses PR? Like basically everyone? Why is she not allowed to do PR for her projects?

You don't see how the royal family use their media cronies to ruthlessly punish this pair by spewing out endless shit about them that is disturbingly personal and disgusting, even when they've been quiet for months? Especially anti-Meghan crap. (Always the woman gets it worse.) All because she dared to marry into - and leave - that stupid cult, the British Royal Family. You can't see that the media leak poison about her and believe everything they say hook, line and sinker.

You have obediently absorbed the pure manufactured anger like you were supposed to. Well done. 👏

I don't care about any of them actually, except that I've noticed the amount of shit that's thrown at Harry & Meghan is so ridiculously out of proportion to anything that they've actually done it beggars belief. It is something for the history books. So I feel the need to defend. I don't care even about that old bag the queen, who along with that old racist Philip was in her friggin 90s. H&M didn't kill anyone, all they did was put their side across. So what? They're allowed to fucking talk about their lives and yes, her terrible in-laws, who are not above criticism, just because they're rich and posh and has Britain in a stranglehold.

I see lots of flaws in both Harry & Meghan. We are all flawed. There is stuff I wish they hadn't done. There is stuff they have done to the good that doesn't get recognised. But when you get a woman (Meghan) who is really flying under the radar and has done for months, but there is countless media (and MN) criticism, articles, and horrible stuff written, I feel it is unfair. That is not being part of the Sussex Squad who all seem rather deranged!

Spare in a charity shop 75p. Angela Levin's book on Camilla went straight into middle aisle Aldi ! So it's nothing peculiar at all.

The conversation has moved on

Noted.

Even though there was less than an hour between my post and the one I was responding to, and no posts intervening.

such a good post @ILikeDinosaurs especially this part
H&M didn't kill anyone, all they did was put their side across. So what? They're allowed to fucking talk about their lives and yes, her terrible in-laws, who are not above criticism, just because they're rich and posh and has Britain in a stranglehold.

I so agree!!

I don't care about any of them actually, except that I've noticed the amount of shit that's thrown at Harry & Meghan is so ridiculously out of proportion to anything that they've actually done it beggars belief. It is something for the history books

Great post @ILikeDinosaurs and so agree with this above.

If anything, the haters out there in the big wide world, and the detractors on MN make me more supportive of them because the shit thrown at them (32 articles in one paper in a 24 hour period?!) is just not warranted. I feel sorry for them to be honest.

But supposing she is doing any PR is that a reason for such hatred? Do you hate every other celebrity that also uses PR? Like basically everyone? Why is she not allowed to do PR for her projects?

Tell me how I'm showing hatred towards them? Criticizing celebrities for their behaviour isn't ‘hating’ them, and I didn't say Meghan isn't allowed to do PR for her projects. All I'm saying is she hasn't actually stayed away from the media spotlight, contrary to some claims here.

As for the rest of your claims, prove it. Show me proof that “the royal family use their media cronies to ruthlessly punish” the Sussexes. The only ones I can see who have gone on the attack via the media are Harry and Meghan, and Harry never shuts up about the royal family. Even his brother’s kids aren't exempt from being dragged into his publicity tour.

You say you don't care? Seems like you care enough to get mad at random strangers online for daring to criticize the Sussexes, calling it ‘hate’. I would say calling the Queen an ‘old bag’ is also hateful, and as for Phillip being racist, that also applies to harry since he's the one who dressed up as a nazi and been embroiled in racist incidents.

And other people, like the Spotify executive, their staff including Jason knauff, and people in the media, and the public, should be allowed to talk about the Sussexes and their bullying behaviour, their poor work ethic, and their lies, as they're not above criticism, just because theyre rich and famous. See how it works both ways?

The Sussex’s remind me of the Emperor in Hans Christian Anderson take but the little boy has shouted that the emperor has no work ethic/ talent. I’m

Nobody has said they should not ever be criticised though. But what goes on online and in the press is extreme, and its disproportionate to what they did- tell their side of a story already publicised.

. The royal family however, are a very different story as they do not make their own money, they don't have proper jobs at all. Just roles that we pay for. So scrutiny of them should be the focus on a royal board. The disproportionate and over the top criticisms of H & M are unique to them and so much more than any of the actual royals who are answerable to us.

I have never seen you scrutinise the royals at all, never seen you start a thread about cash for honours, the pedophile friends of Charles and Andrew, the Kents helping a Russian with a visa... things that actually matter and are of public interest.

The Sussex’s remind me of the Emperor in Hans Christian Anderson take but the little boy has shouted that the emperor has no work ethic/ talent.

Throughout Megan's career before she met Harry, everyone working with her including with charities since Harry, have all said she's a great colleague and hard worker. So it seems a little odd for people to call a successful actress and millionaire, talentless and lacking work ethic now.

The conversation has moved on

And you have misunderstood. It’s hard to put tone in writing sometimes. I noted that after I posted there had been a concerted effort by other posters to get back to speaking about the book. I had directly tagged you in my initial post so it was understandable that you had responded but the reason I’d said what I said above and tagged you was to acknowledge to everyone that my conversation with you was a derail but to also speak directly to what you said - that’s all.

I think the haters are so vicious because deep down they must know it’s all a sham. The rift with Harry means Harry is lifting the curtain showing the workings and it’s not pretty .
Some royalists want to believe the sham, some have even ( sadly in my opinion ) said the Windsors are like their family .

Look at the duplicitous phrase ‘recollections may vary’ ( they may - but facts don’t but the little people need not concern themselves with facts)

Does anything better represent the wily Windsors ? It was immediately credited to the queen and it was lauded as politically wise and demonstrative of her years of wisdom .

Well now it seems it wasn’t the queen at all ( I doubt she was aware of much of what was happening ) but Kate .
She, it seems, is the steely queen in waiting .

Hmm . Very odd.
I doubt Kate wrote or said it . Someone else did.
She is now being linked to the phrase . So the palace initially misled the public by implying the queen had spoken on the matter ?

One thing the link to Kate does do however is put some distance between Kate and Charlie Camilla and Willy
(house of Parker Bowles ) in the matter

'Recollections may vary'... is just another way of saying ' it happened but we didn't mean it the way she took it'

I actually laughed at the way people reacted to the news it was kept in because of Kate, like she's some genius or amazing strong woman for this one line she don;t write. It's ridiculous.

Hopefully it’ll mean the end of reading that phrase repeatedly on here. It doesn’t quite have the same gravitas if some PR person thought it up - it’s just spin now.

It was attributed to the smart old Queen, and so many people believed she’d thought of it. That goes to show just how little truth we actually do know when it comes to RF members.

Now Kate is getting kudos from some for insisting it was let in. Maybe she did, maybe she didn’t.

Spin spin and re-spin.

I liked your post Dinosaur. LOL.

I find it a bit bizarre that people ever thought that anyone but a spin doctor wrote it, just because the Queen said it.

Do these people also think that everything written/said/put on a website by their employer is written and posted by a single person too?

@thecatsthecats

I was waiting for that !

oh how bizarre that anyone would think that - we’ll look back at threads at the time and see the sycophants fall over themselves praising the wise old queen putting H and M in their place

Pity you weren’t there to put us all right at the time .

Feel free to create those threads about the other royals. No one is stopping you. I just find it strange that you and other Sussex fans here are trying to ‘police’ what other posters want to post.

Why are you trying to control what others are posting?

But you are right - it’s Windsors Inc .
It’s big business pretending to be nothing more than a family .

Very profitable it has been for the Windsors too . Esp since the sovereign grant was introduced . Their profits can never be allowed to fall - no matter what state the country is in

not many corporations can say that

Nobody is that interested. As I said before I provided a big list of bullet points to make easy reading of the Royal Report out last week so we could discuss.
No one really wanted to talk about it.

So... threads have been created, posts posted, little interest in the actual Royal Family who we pay for. Only the two that have left.

@Iwantcakeeveryday is not policing. She is making an observation.

I couldn't find anything that showed the royal family using their media cronies to ruthlessly punish the Sussexes but I did find this:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/meghan-markle-harry-thanked-fan-22526598?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Of course not, how could I? I don't control the site? I am commenting on other peoples posts, which is the point of a forum and something you do yourself quite frequently. I am making the point that you are here scrutinising them years after they left and you don't apply the same scrutiny to the current working royals. You don't have to explain why, but its ok for me to comment on the hypocrisy.

Right, she's just creepily observing what I post (like why does it matter?). I consider that policing. I don't bother checking who posts what here because it's frankly none of my business and i don't concern myself with it.

It’s not my problem if nobody is interested. Anyone and everyone is free to post whatever they want, provided they stick with the rules and guidelines. I see there's threads of the Wales marriage and cheating rumours here (like how is that relevant to anyone outside their marriage?), and I don't see the pro Sussex fans going to that thread criticizing people for posting there.