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Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" Part Deux

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Qbish · 27/06/2023 12:06

Harry and Meghan slammed by Spotify executive after podcast deal ends | The Independent

The old thread got closed, just as I was trying to quote tweet someone! So I've started this one, because this shitshow is still rumbling on

Spotify executive hits out at Harry and Meghan after podcast deal ends

Sussexes inked three-year $25m deal with audio company but produced just one series of content

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/harry-meghan-spotify-deal-grifters-b2360608.html

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Qbish · 27/06/2023 22:01

It's a bit like dictators - once people stop fearing you (or being obeisant in Harry's case), and start to laugh at you - you're done.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/06/2023 22:26

I think they are ultimately going to find the uk press much more controlled than the us

I wouldn't say "better controlled" exactly, but the US lacks the volume of mainstream tabloids we have so maybe Harry thought he'd escape some of the criticism this way

Unfortunately for him what they do have is a much better grasp of freedom of speech, so rather than inventions from the rags the slings and arrows are direct from some of the professionals concerned

No wonder he dislikes the First Amendment ...

User34352515 · 27/06/2023 22:57

Saw a Tiktok by a creator who allegedly has "sources" at Netflix but it's a very credible theory even if it's just speculation. Netflix basically offered H&M the massive deal because they wanted access to the Royal Family. They are experts in entertainment and knew that getting exclusive content on the RF is the ultimate jackpot. Nobody actually gives a shit about their other projects and it's all smoke and mirrors to make H&M think they're the next Obamas.

Netflix probably even took into account that Prince Philipp and the Queen may well pass away sometime during the 5 years of Harry & Meghan's contract which means that there would be huge historical events like funerals and a coronation. Even though they "left" the RF, it's clear that one or both would still be obliged to go and Netflix could be the fly on the wall. Maybe they banked on the fact that H&M would travel to the UK with their children so the Queen could meet them or spend time with their cousins. They were envisioning an old money version of the Kardashians which would, of course, be worth every penny of the 120M deal.

However they didn't foresee the pandemic which greatly restricted travel and group gatherings (PP's funeral). The RF probably suspected what Harry was up to and did everything they could to grant him zero access to family members on his brief trips to the UK. Meghan and the kids weren't part of it at all. Netflix execs also didn't plan for the recession, Ukraine war and overall hit on the entertainment industry within such a few years. It's clear H&M will never deliver the content they promised and the prospect of them reconciling or travelling back to the UK before 2025 are effectively zero. The coronation has come and went and Netflix never got the "scoop" they hoped for with any of those major events.

They are reluctant to terminate the contract as there are various grey areas that could lead to a counter lawsuit from H&M (who are obviously very happy to sue anyone who crosses them). What they're doing instead is withholding the remaining 60M and just sitting it out. They are basically pressuring H&M to come up with more content as agreed upon but simultaneously rejecting all their ideas. This leads to a stalemate that will run into 2025 whereupon their contract will not be renewed.

The greatest proof of this is that there doesn't seem to be any more projects in the pipeline. No trailers, no marketing, no hype. The Invictus documentary is the last thing they will put out with Netflix and everyone knows it's too niche to be remotely interesting or globally successful. The spate of bad press surrounding how bad their ideas are is the final nail in the coffin. Considering that both are busy with other things all the time, Meghan chasing after two small kids, Harry rumoured to have been hospitalised from stress and generally not looking in great health, there are slim chances that Netflix will get whatever they paid for.

Wheresthebeach · 27/06/2023 23:25

@User34352515 That is a very interesting and plausible take on the situation. I assume if they don’t create they don’t get paid?

RoundandRounnnd · 27/06/2023 23:25

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Netflix deal remains strong amid false reports

It seems that H&M (and I quote) ‘continue to shine brighter than ever’. Despite the rumours (and dare I say, the hopes of some), Netflix has reiterated the strength of its ongoing collaboration with the Sussexes' production company.

"The bond with Archewell Productions is one we deeply value. Harry & Meghan launched as Netflix’s most spectacular documentary debut to date. Our exciting journey with them isn't ending anytime soon. We're currently collaborating on numerous projects, including the much-anticipated documentary series Heart of Invictus [a project not related to the RF in case anyone was wondering]."

If their Netflix deal alone is worth a cool US$100 million, as reported in multiple publications, then it doesn’t seem like this royal couple will be running out of change anytime soon.

This follows Harry’s book breaking the Guinness World Record for the fastest-selling non-fiction title of all time. I don’t know how much more this couple can achieve before some accept that they are not unhappy, lost, and inept as some would like us to believe.

But, of course, one can always dismiss first-party sources for third party sources who happen to have... err... sources.

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Netflix deal remains strong amid false reports

Harry and Meghan recently lost the Spotify partnership

https://www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/496393/prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-netflix-deal-remains-strong-amid-false-reports/

Howsimplywonderful · 27/06/2023 23:32

Hello Magazine 🤣

FloofCloud · 28/06/2023 00:40

Qbish · 27/06/2023 20:17

I am definitely interested in them, in a "watching a car crash" kind of way now.

Harry thought moving to America would free him, but what he didn't realise was that with freedom comes the right for anyone to blab about you, in a way that Brits just don't do. Well, to be fair, he does, and now he's the biter bit.

Freedom also means shedding the entitlement shroud and doing some hard work, unfortunately so far that's all been about whinging and griping about his life and family

AliceOlive · 28/06/2023 02:05

Is it me or does this voice sound familiar?

"The bond with Archewell Productions is one we deeply value. Harry & Meghan launched as Netflix’s most spectacular documentary debut to date. Our exciting journey with them isn't ending anytime soon. We're currently collaborating on numerous projects, including the much-anticipated documentary series Heart of Invictus[a project not related to the RF in case anyone was wondering]."

RoundandRounnnd · 28/06/2023 02:41

Howsimplywonderful · 27/06/2023 23:32

Hello Magazine 🤣

No, Netflix actually. Or do you consider an unnamed, random TikTok creator to be a more credible source? 😂😅😩

RoundandRounnnd · 28/06/2023 02:42

@AliceOlive Perhaps you know the communications person at Netflix that rebutted the rumours.

AliceOlive · 28/06/2023 02:52

RoundandRounnnd · 28/06/2023 02:42

@AliceOlive Perhaps you know the communications person at Netflix that rebutted the rumours.

I think I know the writing!

Spectre8 · 28/06/2023 06:14

I actually liked watching suits, might start re-watching it when it comes on netflix and not just cos meghan is in it.

skullbabe · 28/06/2023 06:59

RoundandRounnnd · 28/06/2023 02:41

No, Netflix actually. Or do you consider an unnamed, random TikTok creator to be a more credible source? 😂😅😩

Also the creator’s timeline is wrong. H&M signed their deals in the middle of the pandemic not before.

The speculation of Harry being in hospital and his presumed diagnosis (HIPAA anyone?) is really in poor taste.

Milcar · 28/06/2023 07:05

I expect it's good news for them financially, as presumably the more it is watched the more money the leads get.

But that's separate from the issue of the new content they are supposed to produce, and haven't. It's only an on-going problem for Netflix if the contract obliges Netflix to pay out without getting any content. If not Netflix can just wait it out, and pay if/when the content is provided.

Milcar · 28/06/2023 07:06

The more Suits is watched, I should have put for clarity

skullbabe · 28/06/2023 07:15

Netflix has been promoting the reruns of Suits on Netflix for months (it’s already on other streaming services). It’s all over (my) social media - never watched except for a few clips. Regardless - she will always have her residuals from these.

JADS · 28/06/2023 07:30

Suits has been available on Neflix UK since at least around the time that the documentary came out. That will be good for them.

Interesting that the 2 slightly different Netflix spokesperson statements say the same thing, but very different language and emotion. Is one paraphrased?

Howsimplywonderful · 28/06/2023 07:44

Suits has been on Netflix for years, they’re plugging it hard at the moment though

FloofCloud · 28/06/2023 07:46

I suspect it's been pushed into the media by MM personally, maybe I'm just speculating but bad press around, she'll want to ensure there's something to help counterbalance

Rhondaa · 28/06/2023 08:01

FloofCloud · 28/06/2023 07:46

I suspect it's been pushed into the media by MM personally, maybe I'm just speculating but bad press around, she'll want to ensure there's something to help counterbalance

I doubt it. I bet she's horrified. A bit like posh spice likes to focus on her designer persona and not so much her previous pop act, I bet MM isn't overly keen on suits being pushed. It doesn't really reflect her wannabe current VIP status.

Wheresthebeach · 28/06/2023 08:12

Their PR machine is certainly doing their job with the puff pieces in the women’s press. It’s a case of ‘time will tell’.

Littlethingsmeanalot · 28/06/2023 08:25

Rhondaa · 28/06/2023 08:01

I doubt it. I bet she's horrified. A bit like posh spice likes to focus on her designer persona and not so much her previous pop act, I bet MM isn't overly keen on suits being pushed. It doesn't really reflect her wannabe current VIP status.

Goodness though, spice girls broke up over 2 decades ago. Victoria is a successful designer and has been for some time.

suits was really the only successful thing Meghan has ever been part of in her life, so I can see why she’d actually be keen to remind folks, and the more it’s watched the more money she makes. So I’m sure for those reasons alone she’s keen to have it pushed, it’s money for nothing and a reminder of her previous hay day,

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