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Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" by Spotify exec and podcaster

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Qbish · 17/06/2023 09:29

No great surprise there... Would love to hear his story about Zooming Prince Harry, I can only imagine his frustration with the whining ninny!

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after end of podcast deal | The Independent

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

Sussexes inked three-year $25m deal with audio company but produced just one series of content

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/spotify-harry-meghan-podcast-deal-end-b2359279.html

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SunbathingDragon · 17/06/2023 16:09

Oioicaptain · 17/06/2023 16:05

I don't like either of them, but that chap comes across as unpleasant and unprofessional.

By that chap, I assume you mean Harry? And, yes, he does. So does Meghan.

willWillSmithsmith · 17/06/2023 16:13

Stalkedbyzombies · 17/06/2023 14:24

My DS: What would happen if one of those aircraft fell onto the balcony during the flypast?
Me: Harry and Meghan would become king and queen!
😀

I think we’d most definitely see a republic before that happened.

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/06/2023 16:14

SirQuintusAureliusMaximus · 17/06/2023 15:19

Yes. She looks very discombobulated and sulky. Serves her right. She is of no consequence.

These pictures were obviously a pap parade so if she's looking sulky it's because she is choosing to. I guess maybe she was going for 'sad' and 'wistful' and 'alone' so that we feel sorry for her.

Or maybe it was a 'promote some clothes/bags/accessories' job for which she is being paid and she was going for a sulky look to distract.

I remember reading on a gossip sight that when she was first engaged and married that that Canadian stylist woman who was her best friend for a while and then she ghosted when the stylist was cancelled were running a behind the scenes paid for promotion.

So a brand would contact the stylist and say can you get this jacket on Meghan. Stylist would be paid £££ (Because the advertising reach of photos means stuff sells out quickly because if enough people see it, a larger proportion would buy than through normal adverts). Meghan would wear it and she and Meghan would split the money. It was (according to the site) all under the radar because it would have been seen as "unlawfully" commercially capitalising on the royal family name.

I have zero idea whether it was true but it struck me at the time as being a plausible story and fits with the whole money obsessed grifter theme.

Just thinking now of that cringing moment when Harry said to the Disney CEO 'she does voice overs you know'. They are so embarrassing both of them.

I wonder what the future holds for them. I think if this trajectory continues she is most likely to leave him and marry someone with more serious wealth (ugly banker type or film producer) who would want her as a trophy and who will bank roll her political campaign to run for office (which I am sure is coming soon).

Someone posted a video about merchandising clothes on a thread perhaps a year ago. I can’t find it but it was very interesting.

Qbish · 17/06/2023 16:14

SirQuintusAureliusMaximus · 17/06/2023 15:30

@Qbish I just read that first amendment article

“I’ve got so much I want to say about the First Amendment as I sort of understand it, but it is bonkers.
“I don’t want to start going down the First Amendment route because that’s a huge subject and one which I don’t understand because I’ve only been here a short time."

How can you "sort of understand" the First Amendment and then say in a second breath "I don't understand" it? It's freedom of expression. There's not that much to understand.

Ironically the only real difference between the USA First amendment and the UK version of freedom of expression in the Europen Convention on Human Rights, is that in the USA, the right is much stronger - especially when placed against privacy rights of public figures/celebs. The journalistic right under the First Amendment almost always is a trump card.

He just comes across as really really thick.

Exactly. "It's a huge subject which I don't understand but I'm going to call it bonkers anyway" 🙄

And what is this "huge subject" that he doesn't understand, but is going to comment on anyway?

The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Harry really isn't the sharpest tool in the box. But he is a tool all the same.

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LuluBlakey1 · 17/06/2023 16:26

Good on him. It is time people in LaLa land started to say it like it is rather than sucking up yo the two of them.

Serenster · 17/06/2023 16:34

Oioicaptain · 17/06/2023 16:05

I don't like either of them, but that chap comes across as unpleasant and unprofessional.

It’s not very British to be rude about your colleagues after they have left, but he’s a professional, very successful content creator with many many years under his belt, which is the very industry Harry and Meghan have waltzed into by virtue not of their own experience, but trading on the name of the family they have publicly trashed.

He’s also a senior executive at the company that they were offered a deal with, and under which deal they were due to be paid a huge amount of money. He wanted them to be a success, for the success of Spotify. (Having been handed this massive opportunity on a plate, I also imagine he expected them to give it their all, as most of us would). Clearly, he was unimpressed with them both as content creators and diligent workers.

Their contract with Spotify now ended, he’s sharing his personal views based on his personal dealings with them. And it’s not positive. Maybe it’s not British - but he’s not British, and he clearly doesn’t suffer fools gladly.

(Also, Harry and Meghan have showed no compunction sharing that they were unimpressed with the work and attitudes of their staff at the Palace, and their family members on both sides. What’s sauce for the goose…).

Italiangirlinlondon · 17/06/2023 16:38

I do feel a bit for them. I think it’s clear with Meghan agency signing she is trying to find something else to do, so will likely be trying to approach different parties or in discussions.

this guy is a senior exec at Spotify, he was responsible for podcast content. He worked with them. He will be known in the industry . His words will carry weight.

any one talking to them now about commercial opportunities will have the words “fucking grifters” at the back of their minds.

that and the fact the podcasts weren’t successful in the end, Meghan was unable to make her mark. There seems little going on with Netflix too.

They will seem as the poison chalice no one wants to drink from. They are so controversial, and now a senior exec at Spotify has said, right after news of them partying ways that they are basically just after the money and don’t deliver, that all they do is interviews so they can bad mouth the royal family . And alluded to harry being either a bit thick or work shy.

I think it will be very damaging indeed for their already very damaged brand.

They have just got it so wrong, at every single turn, they’ve fucked it up

Wherestheheatwave · 17/06/2023 16:48

Mummyoflittledragon · 17/06/2023 16:14

Someone posted a video about merchandising clothes on a thread perhaps a year ago. I can’t find it but it was very interesting.

What an awful vacuous self serving way to live.

Freefall212 · 17/06/2023 16:49

Planned pap walks don't tell us anything. All the headlines and posts about she looks x or y. They film for ages and then pick a few shots with expressions that fit the headline that will sell.

I do think she looks thinner than before. I don't know if that is intentional or stress related or what but she seemed a bit gaunt / thin. Hopefully she is healthy. There is so much pressure in LA to be stick thin.

Livinghappy · 17/06/2023 16:55

And why do they have to define themselves? 🤨

I think H&M believe that they can define themselves to the public- so if you say you are a victim, Saint, saviour of women etc you should be believed, irrespective of who you actually are. It's kinda delusional.

Is Elton John still a pal? . Could he help to redeem them in the USA.

On Trooping of the Colour day when his Dad & brother are in full regimental dress with medals, it must be painful for Harry to realise he has lost respect of the Army and given that up for lots of bathrooms.

shockthemonkey · 17/06/2023 16:56

Elior · 17/06/2023 12:52

She never had the respect or gravitas of a heavyweight actress to make a Glenda Jackson style full-time crossover into another public facing role. Even at it's height, her acting career was always about playing a hot supporting girlfriend role.

The most telling indication that she was too lightweight for the podcast she aspired to put out was right there in the name. She used a Jungian term which she badly misunderstood due to lack of relevant knowledge but she went there anyway (even though she would have been advised that it was nonsense). She thought a new image and powerful friends would mask the shortcomings but it never worked.

Are you referring to the use of the word "archetypes", Elior?

It's also an engineering term, and it carries pretty much the same meaning either way. Not quite what she was aiming for, which I think might have been "stereotypes" - the labels that hold women back.

But the temptation to get in the first syllable of her son's name was probably irresistible.

CatfoodOzymandias · 17/06/2023 17:06

Is it normal for a senior exec to be quite so candid and sweary? Seems a bit odd.

Freefall212 · 17/06/2023 17:08

Did she ever explain what she meant by archetype or what archetype
she was referring to?

Freefall212 · 17/06/2023 17:15

CatfoodOzymandias · 17/06/2023 17:06

Is it normal for a senior exec to be quite so candid and sweary? Seems a bit odd.

He didn’t make a statement as an exec. He has his own podcast where he babbles on about life and he has never held back from saying that he thinks. He has been anti Harry for a long time. People are picking up short clips from his podcast but if you listen to him ramble, he has a lot of opinions.

in January he said it was an embarrassment to have to share the Spotify platform with Harry and he made a comment “Shoot this guy to the sun. I’m so tired of this guy," Simmons said. "What does he bring to the table? He just whines about s--- and keeps giving interviews. … Who cares about your life? You weren’t even the favorite son. … I can’t stand him."

so his criticism isn’t new!

miri1985 · 17/06/2023 17:21

I think there will always be an opportunity for them to earn a lot of money just maybe not in the way that they want. I think they wanted to go the Obama way of being producers and hosts of their own programmes but I don't think people are that interested unless they're spilling Royal Family secrets which must be hard to realise that you now have limited access to what people value most about you.

Whatever they do will get a lot of free publicity from the tabloids, like if they became spokespersons for a product the tabloids would write endless articles about the product for free, publish endless photos of their campaigns etc.
But I can't see a luxury brand wanting to get involved like a Prada, Versace, Dior etc but I could completely see Meghan being recruited to do a Covergirl campaign or something I just don't think she'd want to do it. I can't see either of them doing something like Fergies weight watchers ads even though that kind of accessible/non luxury brand is probably what would want them.

They not only need to make enough money for themselves but also need to set their children up to have a comensureate level of security when they're independent too because Harry has painted a target with revealing the amount of Afghanis he killed

CatfoodOzymandias · 17/06/2023 17:23

Ah I see. Really the worst decision Harry has ever made. He could have had a cushy life cutting ribbons and kissing babies, and not doing very much as spare. Now he is boxed into whining for a career.

BoohooWoohoo · 17/06/2023 17:26

I think that Real Housewives would have Meghan in a heartbeat. She'd have to share the spotlight and deal with pressure from the producers to reveal more about the RF but it would help sell products on The Tig should she resurrect that.

Freefall212 · 17/06/2023 17:28

BoohooWoohoo · 17/06/2023 17:26

I think that Real Housewives would have Meghan in a heartbeat. She'd have to share the spotlight and deal with pressure from the producers to reveal more about the RF but it would help sell products on The Tig should she resurrect that.

She would probably be great on Housewives but I am sure she sees that as beneath her. The social class of the women on Housewives is not as high as her social class currently.

Wherestheheatwave · 17/06/2023 17:30

Maybe M could go back to doing burger ads? Harry could advertise hair loss treatments? Meghan could write a bitchy column for a paper.
They could start their own reality show like the Osbornes. Tackier and tackier.

Anaemiafog · 17/06/2023 17:34

I almost feel sorry for PH. We all know he isn't the brightest but I do wonder how long it'll be now before he's back in this country alone with his tail between his legs. MM was bright enough to move to the US away from the British courts.

CatfoodOzymandias · 17/06/2023 17:35

I do feel a bit sorry for him, though I am a massive Republican. Still...

WordsandSentences · 17/06/2023 17:41

JeandeServiette · 17/06/2023 13:30

Yeah but this guy ( forgot his name already) isn't someone who was recruited into Spotify. He's in post because his own media company was bought out by Spotify. It's a semi-sinecure. He's a renegade lone operator who was brought onboard as part of a buyout. They made him "head of innovation". He's coming from a different angle to the operational senior management.

This. Renegade founders don’t usually last long in the new kingdom. Their egos don’t usually fit in the new order. It was unprofessional but not unsurprising and I doubt the Sussexes will be the only ones in this story to be exiting from an agreement with Spotify.

TrashyPanda · 17/06/2023 17:42

Italiangirlinlondon · 17/06/2023 12:51

Maybe some confusion here. He was the one who signed them and worked with them, so that’s where his comment comes from . Head is Spotify podcast content is his main gig.

No confusion here

Bill Simmons is an American podcaster, sportswriter, and cultural critic

Sports journalism - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_journalism

TrashyPanda · 17/06/2023 17:47

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 17/06/2023 13:39

It is kind of sad because the rivalry between the wives keeps the brothers estranged for even longer.

I highly doubt it's the women. Harry has sold out his family, it's likely the RF don't want to get close to them to get sold out again. The estrangement between the brothers is of Harry's own making.

Totally agree

MaidOfSteel · 17/06/2023 17:47

This did make me chuckle.

Now that this gruesome twosome have shown how little content they can produce, especially given the vast amounts of money involved, let's hope that no other organisations will want to employ them. Maybe then we'll see the back of them. And they'll get the privacy they clearly don't want.

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