Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" by Spotify exec and podcaster

[Qbish]

No great surprise there... Would love to hear his story about Zooming Prince Harry, I can only imagine his frustration with the whining ninny!

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after end of podcast deal | The Independent

They also have the option of dissassociating themselves with his remarks, and making clear that it was his personal opinion on his podcast, not an official company opinion.

Fair point about the hate - just look at Hillary: daring to be a female candidate. Horrific abuse.
You have to have the hide of a rhino and to be fair I think Meghan has. All this sensitivity about stuff like shopping and bridesmaids dresses etc seems to have been inflated a bit in Harry's book.
I actually think she could style it out.

Yep. And when she collapsed with pneumonia when getting out of a car, she was maligned, abused, ridiculed, not up for the job and so on.

I personally think Meghan is totally unsuitable to be a candidate. Just really not right.

Spotify knew what they were taking on when they employed him. And they still employed him. Because like I said, he's experienced, hard-working and talented. He knows his business.

And you seem to know a lot about his business. Do you think he was unprofessional?
If not, why not?

Except people tend to forget that she was muzzled in the Royal Family with people inside working against her themselves.

It occurs to me that she could well go into politics because she would have a choice to fire usurpers and those who work against her. And be able to defend lies spread against her.

In the RF there was no such choice. Wasp/Fly/JK etc. were working with people more senior to her and were actively working against her. It's not like she could fire them. The company motto was that she must keep quiet and just take it.

Nowadays she has a choice. She could deny that, she could not bother if it sounds too bonkers even to the regular thinking person.

Her alignment to policies sound fine to me.
She may decide to run or maybe not even bother, up to her.

She certainly seems to have fired quite a few people

Yep raising over a million for charity.

Another one coming up soon.

Little that harry did?

Harry never did a podcast.

That's sort of the point.

Obviously it's been leaked, so it could be untrue, that they were expected to do at least one podcast each. It might not be true but certainly Harry was intending to do one but just never quite made it...

They had their contract terminated because they didn't produce enough content. Why do you think it should all be on Meghans shoulders?

Despite how the rags portray it, not too sure she could actually fire people from KP - that was William's team.
I believe they managed to bring in evidence of malpractice from 2 of the staff, who had to be let go.

The Sussex Royal staff were distributed among Travelyst etc. when they left. A lot were there to help them set up, but were generally on their way out beforehand.

They had their contract terminated because they didn't produce enough content.

Spotify never said this at all.

Maybe for the Simmons guy, in his misygynior views, it never occurred to him that a woc would front the podcast and took it for granted that Harry would do it.
He is saying Harry never listened to him. Maybe H was thinking, oh god, what's he on about, I'm not the one doing the podcasts. Meghan is.

The Simmons guy sound worse, the more we dissect him.

That's quite a lot of assumptions...

I mean, theres multiple threads based entirely on assumptions and gossip......

She certainly seems to have fired quite a few people

The revolving door of staff is a stalwart narrative of people on the outs with the RF - it feeds into the perception of the person being demanding and difficult to work with. (see Diana in the months preceding the accident).

I do know lot about his business. I know can bit about him. He didnt get sacked from ESPN for nothing.

I don't think it's great to make comments when you're angry - which he clearly was. There was nothing planned about it as people on here have suggested. He lashed out in the moment. We've all done it - you yourself might have made a comment that maybe has caused a bit of an uproar, too, when you've been annoyed and written incautiously. I know I have. He who does nothing wrong, is, by and large, someone who's done nothing.

Unprofessional? Maybe. He did, after all, reveal their private business with the intent of making them look bad. But then..I hear that's the California way these days. 😄

If there is a revolving door - and a lot of people do seem to move on quickly - then it doesn't mean someone is difficult to work with. The staff concerned might be a bad fit for the situation.

But then that does raise questions about the recruitment process, and conditions of work.

Honestly, I admire you for sticking up for Harry but you're making him sound more and more inept.

He is saying Harry never listened to him. Maybe H was thinking, oh god, what's he on about, I'm not the one doing the podcasts. Meghan is.

The WSJ rather blows that theory put of the water by saying that they were contracted to produce a podcast each, but Harry really struggled to find something that was workable.

They don't believe the WSJ. They think it's a faked article by Rupert Murdoch so that the British courts will rule in the Sun's favour in Harry's lawsuit.

Sorry, but I read Spotify and Archewell statements and saw nothing about each doing a podcast. Mind linking that, as I can't find it.

Funny that, I can’t find anything in their statements that say that only Meghan was expected to produce a podcast either. Mind linking that? 😀

I am not sure why Simmons would have had a Zoom meeting with Harry to create an idea for a podcast, if it was never on the cards Harry would do a podcast?

Of course, Simmons could be lying about having the meeting, but why would he do that?

For the die hard supporters of Harry and Meghan it seems that all and everyone is engaged in a conspiracy to undermine them - it's Big Media, it's 'misygynoir' (?sp), it's the RF, it's 101 other reasons.

Maybe the simpler explanation is that they have messed up, and not delivered on their promises (contracts)

I'm a random on the internet and no one takes much notice of me.

He spoke out to the US, UK and the world even, knowing he was targeting them for days/weeks with all the media jumping on it.
Deplorable.

You know a lot about his business. I know far less than you, but the one thing I do know is...I would avoid him like the plague for unprofessionalism. (Not that little old me would be in that sphere, but I imagine others are, and feel the same)

This whole furore actually paints Meghan in a better light in that she actually produced a series, whereas Harry did not. However if you compare them to some of the (more niche) podcasts I listen to, 12 episodes represents approx 6 months work. These people also have at least part jobs to sustain them and young families. They do the research themselves and don't have a production team.

Financially, H&M are laughing all the way to the bank here getting to keep basically all the money for very little output. Spotify made a real blunder here. Podcasts are amazing, but they were never going to bring in lots of new subscribers.

There is nothing about individualy doing things. It's Archewell. Just like Meghan will not be doing Polo for charities - who is expecting her to do that.

Sometimes, Harry and Meghan will do things together, other times one of them does something solo. Meghan did the podcast under her name. Harry did the book Spare under his name, Meghan did The Bench on her own. Harry was on BetterUp on his own. They have done talks separately, sometimes together. Sometimes, they are joined, other times not.

Years ago I worked for a very large U.K. company.

There was a senior guy in the company, a Board member - very well educated and wealthy known as ‘the attack dog’ who was basically unleashed when all other approaches failed. He was useful (as rather like the Luca Brasi in the godfather he was used when all other approaches failed

I remember reviewing files and among the various documents were apologies from people who he had to deal with. He was incredibly effective when negotiations stalled or when bills were felt to be inflated.