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Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" by Spotify exec and podcaster

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Qbish · 17/06/2023 09:29

No great surprise there... Would love to hear his story about Zooming Prince Harry, I can only imagine his frustration with the whining ninny!

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after end of podcast deal | The Independent

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

Sussexes inked three-year $25m deal with audio company but produced just one series of content

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/spotify-harry-meghan-podcast-deal-end-b2359279.html

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Gracewithoutend · 25/06/2023 08:52

MarcelProust · 25/06/2023 08:09

On Mumsnet Bill Simmons is talented.
He talks about talented people, big difference.

He is unknown by most outside the US. In fact the irony of him calling other grifters is not lost, because he grifted to the top himself . He is just annoyed, because he took so long to get to the top and it must gaul to see others get what he wanted for decades in a mere few months. But that's life.

He did not sign Harry and Meghan, but he did sign other big deals. Sounds like a knee jerk reaction of panic on his part. Mentioning H&M means more people paying attention to Spotify decision possibly over paying podcasters, including himself and those he signed.

🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm guessing you're just trying to wind me up because you're chagrined at how little Harry has achieved at Spotify. Although, actually, he couldn't really have achieved less. Embarrassing.

Roussette · 25/06/2023 08:52

Maireas · 25/06/2023 08:48

I actually think she'd be quite a good president. She's reasonably articulate and presents well. She's not anti abortion or a gun nut. She knows what country she's in. She's a woman. I'd say that's quite an improvement.
Go Meghan 👠✊

God no. I think she's had enough hate inflicted on her to last a lifetime!

Howsimplywonderful · 25/06/2023 08:57

@Maireas

They analysed Hillary’s speech patterns and said she used too many words. I think Meghan would suffer the same criticism.

tigger2022 · 25/06/2023 09:00

I never really agreed with Archetypes from a feminist perspective: firstly, why talk to Serena Williams, other than the fact they’re friends? Some horrible stuff has been broadcast about Venus and Serena but Serena is one of the greatest tennis players of all time. In what material way have stereotypes held her back? She has won as many Grand Slams as Djokovic and more than Federer/Nadal. There are female players who have been held back by negative sexist coverage - Naomi Osaka? Maria Sharapova? And secondly - the idea that sexist stereotypes are somehow learned by accident and we just need someone to helpfully point out they don’t apply to everyone and might not apply to us, women will suddenly go “Oh!” and reach our full potential. Stereotypes are not accidental, they’re not labels for who society would like us to be, they’re what the patriarchy spends our entire life trying to engineer us to be: through shame, violence, and control. It would have been interesting if Meghan had asked Serena what impact the racism and sexism levelled against her throughout her career might have had on young, black sportswomen and whether it has made the next Serena Williams less likely. I thought it was a fundamental flaw, talking exclusively to women who have already overcome the stereotypes.

Gracewithoutend · 25/06/2023 09:04

Iwantcakeeveryday · 25/06/2023 08:48

He's great at spotting talent and nurturing it.

😂😂😂is that why Spotify's podcast division is doing so badly then? Why so many have left/are leaving? He's such a nurturer.

experienced, hard-working, talented people

He's also a misogynistic prick known for trash talking people and having a predominantly white guest list and staff.

It's clear you know nothing how spotify podcast is split up. It's also clear you know nothing about building up a multi million business from scratch. It's not his podcasters that are leaving.

He has certainly been criticised for his views. But it doesnt take away from all his journalistic or business achievements.

I understand you're embarrassed that Harry has been shown to be lazy and unprofessional in not fulfilling his contract. But it really doesn't make Harry sound any better when you lash out at a guy who has achieved so much off his own talent and graft.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 25/06/2023 09:05
Season 3 GIF by Parks and Recreation

sure... I know nothing, and you know it all...

Gracewithoutend · 25/06/2023 09:08

Maireas · 25/06/2023 08:48

I actually think she'd be quite a good president. She's reasonably articulate and presents well. She's not anti abortion or a gun nut. She knows what country she's in. She's a woman. I'd say that's quite an improvement.
Go Meghan 👠✊

I hope she doesn't. If she was on the verge of suicide from the UK press, she'd never make it to inauguration day with the entire world's press out to get her.

Politicians need the hides of rhinos. I don't think Meghan would enjoy it all.

Gracewithoutend · 25/06/2023 09:09

Iwantcakeeveryday · 25/06/2023 09:05

sure... I know nothing, and you know it all...

Based on what you've written....yeah.

Roussette · 25/06/2023 09:10

Gracewithoutend · 25/06/2023 09:04

It's clear you know nothing how spotify podcast is split up. It's also clear you know nothing about building up a multi million business from scratch. It's not his podcasters that are leaving.

He has certainly been criticised for his views. But it doesnt take away from all his journalistic or business achievements.

I understand you're embarrassed that Harry has been shown to be lazy and unprofessional in not fulfilling his contract. But it really doesn't make Harry sound any better when you lash out at a guy who has achieved so much off his own talent and graft.

That is so patronising @Gracewithoutend

Do you know about building up a multi million business from scratch? Because it sounds like you do....

I know I am jumping in here, but really!

If I was launching something I would avoid this bloke like the plague for being totally unprofessional in the manner of which he talked about clients. I don't think it's anything to do with being embarrassed.

Howsimplywonderful · 25/06/2023 09:10

Hollywood and the world of entertainment is far for cutthroat than the RF.

They are not producer material.

Serenster · 25/06/2023 09:11

If I was launching something I would avoid this bloke like the plague for being totally unprofessional in the manner of which he talked about clients.

And that’s exactly how many people feel about the Sussexes too, though.

Roussette · 25/06/2023 09:13

Serenster · 25/06/2023 09:11

If I was launching something I would avoid this bloke like the plague for being totally unprofessional in the manner of which he talked about clients.

And that’s exactly how many people feel about the Sussexes too, though.

Touché

Glad you didn't miss that chance 🤣

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How many networks have you set up and sold for $200m, then?

skullbabe · 25/06/2023 09:17

Roussette · 25/06/2023 08:52

God no. I think she's had enough hate inflicted on her to last a lifetime!

Agreed

MarcelProust · 25/06/2023 09:17

Serenster · 25/06/2023 09:11

If I was launching something I would avoid this bloke like the plague for being totally unprofessional in the manner of which he talked about clients.

And that’s exactly how many people feel about the Sussexes too, though.

Except for the part where Harry never talked cap about any of his 'clients'.

skullbabe · 25/06/2023 09:20

Play nice ladies

Iwantcakeeveryday · 25/06/2023 09:21

skullbabe · 25/06/2023 09:17

Agreed

same and I don't think she would be a good president anyway, neither would most people so not a particulate criticism of her...

Serenster · 25/06/2023 09:21

Harry doesn’t have clients, obviously! And he and Meghan weren’t clients of Spotify either - they were colleagues of the existing staff. Harry and Meghan have spoken very critically of their families, their personal staff and the Palace staff rather a lot though.

Milcar · 25/06/2023 09:22

Based on what Harry has felt comfortable saying about his family, friends and staff, I wouldn't be sure he wouldn't spill the beans about clients, if he ever has any.

MarcelProust · 25/06/2023 09:24

Gracewithoutend · 25/06/2023 08:52

🤣🤣🤣🤣
I'm guessing you're just trying to wind me up because you're chagrined at how little Harry has achieved at Spotify. Although, actually, he couldn't really have achieved less. Embarrassing.

Little that harry did?

Harry never did a podcast. We don't know the terms and conditions of the contract, but Spotify never even advertised Harry as doing a stand alone podcast himself.

What we have witnessed of Harry is that he has been busy with Invictus/Polo for Sentebale/ Spare / selling out sits BetterUp. I know he did a nice introduction for Africa Parks documentary, but I was not aware of him going full time in narration/podcasts recently. I also do not recall Spotify announcing his podcast at all.

LadyMuckingabout · 25/06/2023 09:25

Busy with polo 🤣

Milcar · 25/06/2023 09:26

I think what Simmons said was that he tried to help Harry come up with an idea for a podcast, which implies (to me) that there was the plan of Harry doing a podcast?

In which case that Harry never actually did one is rather the point.

Milcar · 25/06/2023 09:27

Sorry - the fact that Harry never actually did one

Gracewithoutend · 25/06/2023 09:28

Roussette · 25/06/2023 09:10

That is so patronising @Gracewithoutend

Do you know about building up a multi million business from scratch? Because it sounds like you do....

I know I am jumping in here, but really!

If I was launching something I would avoid this bloke like the plague for being totally unprofessional in the manner of which he talked about clients. I don't think it's anything to do with being embarrassed.

I don't know about all multi million businesses but I know about Bill Simmons' multi million business.

Spotify knew what they were taking on when they employed him. And they still employed him. Because like I said, he's experienced, hard-working and talented. He knows his business.

And, who knows, they might indeed sack him for being unprofessional. And he'd just go out and set up his third network.

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