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Harry and Megan dubbed "fucking grifters" by Spotify exec and podcaster

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Qbish · 17/06/2023 09:29

No great surprise there... Would love to hear his story about Zooming Prince Harry, I can only imagine his frustration with the whining ninny!

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle after end of podcast deal | The Independent

Leading Spotify figure lashes out at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle

Sussexes inked three-year $25m deal with audio company but produced just one series of content

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/spotify-harry-meghan-podcast-deal-end-b2359279.html

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Wherestheheatwave · 17/06/2023 20:26

User34352515 · 17/06/2023 20:18

Both are only late 30s/just past 40 with two young children. Meghan is smart but clearly has her hands full with the kids. Harry is only average at best, and just born into immense wealth and privilege. It would be insane to expect them to keep all the balls in the air. The crash is inevitable and long belated.

A lot of their "work" is quite insulting to professional authors, artists and media creatives. A writer will spend years solely working on one book. A filmmaker will only work on one documentary. H&M somehow manage to knock out books, podcasts and documentaries simultaneously which means none of those projects have received their full passion and attention. The massively delayed schedule for the podcast probably indicates there were just too busy to dedicate their full attention to the project...a pisstake for all true journalists who can only dream of such a deal with Spotify.

Their brand is beyond salvation to be honest. Especially after the non story of a 2 hour car chase in NYC traffic that has not been taken seriously by any media outlet. There are no followups corroborating their version of thee story (CCTV, eyewitness accounts etc) so the whole thing just ended as a manipulative half-truth.

What are they actually busy with though? They have staff and presumably a nanny. They should both be able to work full time easily.

Whenharrymetsmelly · 17/06/2023 20:29

Wherestheheatwave · 17/06/2023 20:26

What are they actually busy with though? They have staff and presumably a nanny. They should both be able to work full time easily.

Maybe they want to spend time with their kids while they are young? Not everyone is happy to be away from their kids for most of the day.

WinnieTheW0rm · 17/06/2023 20:32

ProfessorXtra · 17/06/2023 10:28

I have really mixed feelings on this.

It was unprofessional. I didn’t like the hint that he knows more and will spill it when drunk at a later period. I think whatever happened should have remained private.

However, I don’t have sympathy for H&M as they also ignored others privacy and also kept dropping hints about how they had more to tell.

Shot across the bows isn't it?

There's a mutually agreed exit line, and this is a warning that if they depart from it then there is Stuff that can be told. It's pre-emptive closing off of the possibility of planting insinuation that they chose to leave for bigger/better (assuming they do secure a next project/platform at all)

IcedPurple · 17/06/2023 20:32

Whenharrymetsmelly · 17/06/2023 20:29

Maybe they want to spend time with their kids while they are young? Not everyone is happy to be away from their kids for most of the day.

I don't think fulfilling the terms of a Spotify agreement would require both of them "to be away from their kids for most of the day."

But if it did, and if they were so keen to be with their children, then they shouldn't have signed up for it and taken the money for work they were not willing to produce.

WinnieTheW0rm · 17/06/2023 20:36

Whenharrymetsmelly · 17/06/2023 20:29

Maybe they want to spend time with their kids while they are young? Not everyone is happy to be away from their kids for most of the day.

Didn't stop the press piling on to the "lazy" Cambridges when their DC were pre-school age.

So damned if they do, damned if they don't

But I think that some enduring charity work (really building stuff over time, rather than supporting projects of others) would be an excellent use of any periods when they want to focus more on family - as that would build credibility for what follows when the DC are older

DemiColon · 17/06/2023 20:48

I continue to be surprised that people are surprised by all of this. After they were married, I thought the decision to go off and live a quieter life and make their own living seemed like a good idea, as they clearly were not enjoying what they were doing. And not a big surprise there, most people not brought up in that environment would really struggle.

But the moment they left it became pretty clear that by making their own way they meant trade off their celebrity to earn a living. And to those who say, what choice did they have, plenty of RF members have made their own careers or lived quietly. That is totally doable for a second son.

BadgerB · 17/06/2023 21:04

DolphinsInTheSea · Today 10:47
The best thing they can do now is to return to the UK, let Archie and Lili go to a nice private school and serve under William and Kate. Live a quiet and dutiful life. Settle comfortably in a nice stately home, I hope that's what they'll do. It would be the best outcome for them and their kids.

I absolutely agree with this. If they put their children's welfare first this is what they would do.
Harry might do it (if they'd have him back); but Meghan - Never!

BadgerB · 17/06/2023 21:14

Robinni · Today 13:23
Although as I said, I am not a H&M fan after what happened, I can see how Meghan as shewas(glamorous, popular, headline grabbing, approachable) would have been inconvenient to the main agenda.

But was she? The story has become, in H&M's telling, that she was hated and reviled by the racist British. Most of whom didn't actually know she was mixed race - and when they did, didn't care.

YoucancallmeKAREN · 17/06/2023 21:39

allabouttheboy · 17/06/2023 10:41

None of the royals understood what working really means. They are used to a half hour visit to a charity and calling it work. Or turning up to make a pre written speech at an event and calling it their project. They all do it.
So I am not at all surprised Harry had no idea what real work is.

William was a SAR pilot at RAF Valley, then a Heli med pilot in Norfolk. Pretty sure he knows what hard work is, i don't think an aide stood in for him.

SheWhoReportsToHim · 17/06/2023 21:44

Extremely unprofessional!

So, I work in professional services! Out of my clients, a good share are power-tripping egomaniacs. Some are blatantly incompetent. There are those, who try really hard but fail miserably because they don't grasp how office politics work. And those who (ab)use their professional relationship with me and my firm to point fingers and assign blame.

It's just the job! And that's okay! We get compensated handsomely for "hurt feelings"!

That said: you NEVER, NEVER EVER throw your clients / business associates under the bus! If needs must and someone or other needs to look like the idiot: it's you! ALWAYS!

And, no, it doesn't matter if it's the King himself, H&M, Beyoncé, or the village idiot!

That's just "professionalism"!

Emptycrackedcup · 17/06/2023 21:47

SheWhoReportsToHim · 17/06/2023 21:44

Extremely unprofessional!

So, I work in professional services! Out of my clients, a good share are power-tripping egomaniacs. Some are blatantly incompetent. There are those, who try really hard but fail miserably because they don't grasp how office politics work. And those who (ab)use their professional relationship with me and my firm to point fingers and assign blame.

It's just the job! And that's okay! We get compensated handsomely for "hurt feelings"!

That said: you NEVER, NEVER EVER throw your clients / business associates under the bus! If needs must and someone or other needs to look like the idiot: it's you! ALWAYS!

And, no, it doesn't matter if it's the King himself, H&M, Beyoncé, or the village idiot!

That's just "professionalism"!

I agree, this person sounds like a right twat

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 17/06/2023 21:48

I keep looking for a post I saw earlier and wanted to quote. I can't seem to find it. I apologise if I ought to be crediting someone, but I think it's perfectly true that the public persona that the RF PR machine crafted for Harry was spectacular. He Could Be Your Son, Your Sons Best Friend, The Jack The Lad, One Of The Lads Who's A Soldier and does awards for Disabled Kids.

Without that publicity machine, many of the revelations in Spare have revealed a bolshy, whiny dilettante with a number of unpalatable complexes and behaviours; and this he did himself with his absolute own goal of a book.

There's no clawing it back.

Gracewithoutend · 17/06/2023 22:44

That said: you NEVER, NEVER EVER throw your clients / business associates under the bus! If needs must and someone or other needs to look like the idiot: it's you! ALWAYS!

If you want to sacrifice yourself and your reputation for inept lazy arses, that's up to you and the demands of the company you work for.

Maybe Simmons felt sufficiently abused to call it as he sees it. $100m gives you quite a bit of security to not have to blow smoke up the arse of unpraiseworthy people.

Good for him, I say.

dontchaknow · 17/06/2023 22:46

I have a feeling this won't end well. I don't know how much money they have already, but with the lifestyle, security costs and court cases, they are racking through it at a considerable rate of knots, and there are already rumours of trouble within the marriage. Harry's appearance at court recently for the phone hacking case, where he gave no tangible evidence then stated that he had gone to court because he wanted the nasty headlines about Meghan to stop, i.e nothing to do with the case, indicates a man who has lost it. If he ever had it in the first place. I fear she's going to dump him, take him for what she can get and move on. His mental health wont let him move on - he's neither moved on from Chelsey nor his mum yet - and tragedy will ensue.

Boulshired · 17/06/2023 22:47

When they agreed these deals I believe that the intentions was to show themselves as international philanthropist but having IPP stripped, which would require self funding if they travelled the commonwealth and their charity doing good but not content worthy left them with very little to say other than the royal family. Whilst I do think there was self promotion I do believe that Harry wanted to be an ambassador for good causes

Howsimplywonderful · 17/06/2023 22:48

I think the world would be a far better place if more inept arseholes were called out and given the heave ho and more competent people took their places.

Harry has dished it out, let’s see if he can take it.

he has shown no loyalty to his family and staff, so really I don’t feel deserves any loyalty.

Trump behaves the same

Howsimplywonderful · 17/06/2023 22:49

The fact that Simmons spoke out shows they have no power in Hollywood.

Now let’s buy that man a drink 😜

Wherestheheatwave · 17/06/2023 23:03

dontchaknow · 17/06/2023 22:46

I have a feeling this won't end well. I don't know how much money they have already, but with the lifestyle, security costs and court cases, they are racking through it at a considerable rate of knots, and there are already rumours of trouble within the marriage. Harry's appearance at court recently for the phone hacking case, where he gave no tangible evidence then stated that he had gone to court because he wanted the nasty headlines about Meghan to stop, i.e nothing to do with the case, indicates a man who has lost it. If he ever had it in the first place. I fear she's going to dump him, take him for what she can get and move on. His mental health wont let him move on - he's neither moved on from Chelsey nor his mum yet - and tragedy will ensue.

I agree with this sadly.

CeliaNorth · 17/06/2023 23:05

I do believe that Harry wanted to be an ambassador for good causes

He and Meghan were given a Commonwealth role they could have done a lot with, had they chosen to.

I doubt any reputable good cause would want him now, after he's admitted to ongoing drug use, especially any cause associated with young people.

MysteryBelle · 18/06/2023 00:56

Grifters. The truth writ large. A beautiful thing.

starrynight21 · 18/06/2023 01:48

I do believe that Harry wanted to be an ambassador for good causes

Then he could have stayed in the RF. He and Meghan were supposed to be Commonwealth ambassadors, travelling the world, doing good. Remember her lengthy wedding veil, embroidered with the national flowers of every Commonwealth country ?

They threw away a beautiful opportunity to do good , AND to have a great time doing it. What a waste.

DreamTheMoors · 18/06/2023 02:28

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allabouttheboy · 18/06/2023 02:35

Rumours of trouble within the marriage? That makes me laugh. People have been predicting their imminent divorce for years.

MamoruHisaishi · 18/06/2023 02:57

SheWhoReportsToHim · 17/06/2023 21:44

Extremely unprofessional!

So, I work in professional services! Out of my clients, a good share are power-tripping egomaniacs. Some are blatantly incompetent. There are those, who try really hard but fail miserably because they don't grasp how office politics work. And those who (ab)use their professional relationship with me and my firm to point fingers and assign blame.

It's just the job! And that's okay! We get compensated handsomely for "hurt feelings"!

That said: you NEVER, NEVER EVER throw your clients / business associates under the bus! If needs must and someone or other needs to look like the idiot: it's you! ALWAYS!

And, no, it doesn't matter if it's the King himself, H&M, Beyoncé, or the village idiot!

That's just "professionalism"!

Would that explain Harry and Meghan’s complete lack of professionalism when they threw their staff and the royal family under the bus?

Theoldgreygoose · 18/06/2023 03:26

SunbathingDragon · 17/06/2023 16:05

Exactly the same could be said of H&M and their comments on pretty much everyone they have spoken about.

I agree. Why is it okay for H&M to make money out of their opinions, but no-one else?

For what it's worth, I find "this bloke's opinion" more interesting than anyting either of them have ever said.

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