Harry - what next?

[TrashyPanda]

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

The best thing harry and Meghan can do for themselves and their family is to step away from the spotlight, learn to ignore the media, focus on their family, and be able to accept constructive criticism and advice. Oh, and they should stop trying to make themselves out to be victims, and stop complaining about the royal family. No one wants to hear two multi millionaires complaining about how life is so hard because they weren't born the heir, and have to settle for second best while still getting to enjoy living life in luxury.

Not only because of his position as prince but also because of the death of his mother when he was so young.

They dated a year...while living in different countries. A lot of which was 'romantic getaways', plus the lure of long distance love etc etc.

They can't really have known each other terribly well...it's all very Disney.

I've just read Spare. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but to me it feels like Meghan wouldn't have given Harry a second look if he hadn't been a prince. It's a shame he can't see it. He seems like a nice enough guy.

The bits where he was in the army came across as his happiest time. He seemed to find a role there, and be guided. Shame he couldn't have made more of a career, but you need to pass exams to progress.

Yes, to be substantively promoted to major you need to have passed JOTES (might be called something different now, but that was the name then). And IIRC some of that was at Staff College (working in syndicates, paper exercises etc) and you can't really hide your performance from your peers. Then you'd be grated top/middle/bottom third which of course has implications for progression.

And he was slightly career-limited because of his royal status, and I'm sure I read articles ages ago saying that he wasn't attracted to the sorts of staff jobs that start to feature as you be become more senior. I don't think JOTES was a formal "up or out" point, but in practice people who can't pass (or passed with a very low score) in practice didn't want to stick around.

The Army doesn't have the equivalent of the RAF's Spec Air Crew (ie people who don't want to be promoted, because they just want to keep flying. I don't think that normal people can transfer from Army flying to that part of the RAF, but I think an exception could have been made for him, based largely on the inability to deploy him forwards (and we all now the crabs don't go beyond the reach of fluffy towels)

The crabs don't go beyond the reach of fluffy towels .....

Huh?

That's a good point, @mpsw - I think finding him Invictus was a good move, but he did complain about being given other engagements, so it was difficult keeping him gainfully employed.
The African conservation thing that he wanted to do would have been a good idea. A long way from California....

Inter-service military ribbing! IYKYK

More sensibly it means he would not have to deploy forwards in the same way, so his royal status/trophy target potential etc would not be so limiting

Andrew did 22 years in the Navy could Harry not have transferred there?

Andrew promoted, and had a full career (retiring as a Commander (equivalent to Lieutenant Colonel or Wing Commander)). To do that, he passed squadron commander exams and went to Staff College. Would that really be a path for Harry?

I don't know if there's a naval parallel of RAF's Spec Air Crew, where you can just keep flying. Anyone?

Andrew promoted, and had a full career (retiring as a Commander (equivalent to Lieutenant Colonel or Wing Commander)). To do that, he passed squadron commander exams and went to Staff College.

He went on to get vanity bumped to Rear Admiral then Vice Admiral as birthday presents.

Turned down the equally unearned Admiral rank after the Epstein scandal just until he resumed royal duties.

Thankfully we're still waiting.

Yep!

It it really hurt he couldn't get the full admiral rank

Yes. I was waiting for Puppah.

I was wondering about Harry and public speaking and I wondered what he'd speak about? So I thought I'd check out what his agency said about him and what they say he speaks about.
There were lots of articles in 2020 to say that both he and Meghan had joined the Harry Walker Agency, which is owned by the owners of WME. I searched Meghan and she was on there. Harry was not.
That's odd that they wouldn't be at the same agency. He must have moved. Does anyone know where he moved to at all?

Harry already has many achievements. It's Will who seems to only dress up, take photos and ask others to donate money when he doesn't even pay any taxes.

William does pay tax.

The @numbers poster appears to be a one trick pony - they've been posting the same newspaper collage and screenshots from Twitter on threads on TRF and FWR/Sex and Gender boards

Oohhhhh. I'll stop responding then because they're being a bit of a twerp. Thanks.

Some of us got it..It’s one of the standard digs those in the other services make about the RAF…that and 5 star hotels…

As for H…mpsw’s analysis sounds on the nose from what I have heard elsewhere

^^ but I’ll add that the RAF specialist aircrew role was usually for those whose specialist skills those were keen on maintaining with niche skills such as instructing (and to get that tick it was another course, one which you certainly didn’t get through simply by attending).

TBH in these days of privatization of a lot training I’m not sure if the cadre still exists.

My instinct is to believe the RF’s contribution to actual armed conflict is always kind of overstated tbh lol… you will never make me believe Prince Andrew did anything productive in the Falklands or that Prince Phillip single-handedly sank a German U boat or whatever lol. And Harry didn’t even meet the entry requirements for Sandhurst or to fly helicopters, he only got accepted because his Nanna was commander in chief, he was nicknamed Bunker Harry by his colleagues! I respect the Prince Edward approach “this sucks, I’m off.”

Did Edward not attempt to join the Marines bit couldn't pass the commando course? Rather than it being his choice not to join up.

Being fair to all the Senior Royal men it's a bit of a burden, not really the right expression, that they have no real choice but join the miliary. It's completely expected that is what they will do.

Williams air ambulance job was a stroke of genius, a public sector role, that was low risk to any sort of terrorist attack.

And genuinely useful to society!

you will never make me believe Prince Andrew did anything productive in the Falklands

Cross decking supplies, personnel, etc, flying off the back end of one of the capital ships on Exocet watch and being involved to some extent airlifting casualties as a result of the Bluff Cove shambles = productive and all carried a higher level of risk than I suspect many who maybe have never served can appreciate.

I know he didn’t storm the beaches but he did what was required of him.