Harry - what next?

[TrashyPanda]

Continuation thread for all things Harry, Meghan and all things Archewell.

welcome back everyone!

Eh? Were you actually watching it?

Nobody finds happiness in a situation where their loyalties are ripped apart between their new and old families and their level and duration of interaction with one side is used as a yardstick for determining their loyalty to the other side. There is nothing normal about being obliged to rush back on the same day on a long haul flight hours after arriving, especially where there is a mansion full of staff including nannies. That is not a happy, sustainable way of living.

Why would Dior tether themselves to a toxic liar, surely they value their brand.

Is it true that Harry got paid by Dior for wearing their suits to the coronation and the uk trial? Tagged and paid. Haha.

I watched it, and thought he looked happy. Not grinning from ear to ear for 3 hours as they would've been out of place at a Coronation. But relaxed and happy.

No it really isn’t .

Maybe Harry smoked a few joints before the coronation. I’m sure he’ll tell all in his next book.

Perhaps Anne plume serenaded him as a result

Totally!

Did anyone read his book? What did you make of it?

Less said the better! It was interesting and well written in places but in others rambled on in an incoherent way with little focus.
He comes across as lacking in self awareness, paranoid and jealous of his brother. He totally lacks the ability to see himself from an outside perspective and seems immature and entitled.

He’s obsessed with his mother to an unhealthy degree and seems fixated on his todger.

There are parts that are revealing and interesting though. I suspect the ghost writer was more involved with those passages . The second half of the book seems like it is written by Harry . The first half written by the ghost writer. That how it seemed to me.

I read a chapter of Spare every time I went into Asda, and was struck by how different the prose is from the verbiosity on the Archwell website.

I agree with @Wherestheheatwave that Spare itself has a shift of prose styles, but it mostly IS prose (controlled to some extent by the ghost writer) and not prolix.

I just despair of this over-blown, pompous crap on the website.

Archewell Audio is the newly formed, audio-first production company started by The Duke and Duchess of Sussex. Archewell Audio will produce programming that uplifts and entertains audiences around the world. Under an exclusive partnership, Archewell Audio will join Spotify and their global reach—180 million Premium subscribers and 406 million monthly active users around the world—to spotlight diverse perspectives and voices. As part of the partnership, The Duke and Duchess through Archewell Audio produce podcasts and shows that build community through shared experiences, powerful narratives, and universal values.

If you click the link you get some guff from the now departed Dawn Ostroff about “The Duke and Duchess of Sussex may live in California, but the power of their voices rests in their status as citizens of the world,” and the usual "global platform" allusions.

(And yes, it's out of date too. Is the Archewell website not updated?)

@Wherestheheatwave Thank you for telling me a bit more about it x

Oh my God, what a load of bollocks that is on the website. Sounds so pompous and self regarding.

I'd noticed that the Archewell website doesn't seem to be updated very often.

And I also think it's a bit light on content (others might differ) and I'm not really left with a sense of purpose (despite, or perhaps because of, the number of words about it)

Poor Meghan? Oh please! She saw Harry as the best opportunity that has ever come her way - and boy has he been! She's now world-famous, when before him she was a C-list actress in a cable TV drama that few had heard of. If he wasn't Prince Harry, do you think she'd have married him? She was angling for an introduction to Ashley Cole before she met Harry - retired footballer and cheating ex of Cheryl Tweedy. That is the level she was at pre-Harry - scratching around for dates with has-beens and the exes of reality TV programmes. Harry is a thick, needy nightmare with issues up the wazoo, but he's her meal ticket and without him she's just another ambitious minor TV star.

The impact statements reads like Meghan’s work. I would guess she spent weeks drafting it (when she should have been producing podcasts)

To be fair - Suits was an internationally syndicated tv show which ran to several series and was on streaming services such as Netflix. Not some minor show only available on an obscure US cable channel.

I’d certainly watched it and knew who MM was before she met Harry.

I must mix in the wrong circles, I had never heard of her and neither had any of my YA children . that said given we are in a lawyer household we don't really watch anything about law firms!! and we do have Netflix etc

I do still feel a bit of sympathy with her , she is just doing what she has always done , in my experience Americans are still remarkably baffled by the difference between royalty and celebrity and in particular the weird relationship between the British and their royal family. I suspect she never hid this from Harry and because he said it would be fine, she believed him. Plus Harry is clearly not very stable mentally and living with someone with a mental health condition/ addiction is very hard.

Suits was a decent lightweight tv drama series in which Meghan did a perfectly good job. She was successful in that part and it got her name and face known. Not to everybody, but a significant audience.

The trouble is, it wasn’t leading to anything. None of the cast members (other than those who were already well known and established actors) have leveraged their Suits experience into anything significant. Therefore although I wouldn’t denigrate her success in her career, she is most definitely in a very different place now from where she was likely to have been under her own steam. That’s not being unkind, just realistic.

Was Suits popular enough to be streamed on NF before Meghan dated Harry or did most people watch Suits because of it? Honest question because I don't know.

Well...I watched Suits a bit. Thought MM character was incredibly irritating, and very much a minor, though, repeating character.

Having said that - she did well. She made a lot of money by anyone's standards. I'm not sure anyone watches it now because of her...maybe Sussex Squad types but no one else.

First six seasons were aired on Dave who then dropped it - and it was picked up in UK by NF.

I think Dave slowly built audience figures up and they get between 3-4 million.

I caught the first series but not much more and watched it as it was on rather than looked for it - so I did know who she was but most people I knew didn't at first and then went and looked for suits - not sure how universal that was but in a population of 67 million and suits being first aired on channel with small audience I suspect it's common.

I used to be a real film and TV buff (pre kids)

so 15 years ago a lot of TV shows would start in Canada as its cheaper and tax breaks etc, but if a show was successful it would often move back to the states to keep the stars happy as they wanted to stay in the Hollywood network.

Yes, and it was due to finish at the end of the next season, after which Meghan had nothing lined up. She wasn't even the star of Suits - she was apparently listed as #6 on the 'call list', i.e. the pecking order of actors on the show. I'd never heard of her and I'd never heard of Suits before she started dating Harry.

I think that there was only one woman in that top 5 so being number 6 isn't a big deal. She did a good enough job as the character who was basically the love interest of a main character.