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The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate

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Whatt · 29/05/2023 07:56

Today, I wanted to share something thought-provoking that has caught my attention recently - a noticeable change in the way the media portrays Kate Middleton.

Some publications that previously showed favor towards Kate (DM cough, cough) have started publishing stories that present her in a more critical light. It's an interesting shift.

Firstly, there's a story circulating about an encounter between Kate and a convicted murderer at a charity event. Additionally, there's talk of the taxpayer potentially providing support for her family's struggling business. This raises questions about the circumstances surrounding their business venture and the implications it may have for public funds.

What's intriguing is the parallel being drawn between Kate's current media treatment and the scrutiny faced by Meghan Markle in the past. It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

Furthermore, there's some buzz on Twitter suggesting that Kate may have unintentionally upstaged the King during the Chelsea Flower Show. While it may seem like harmless gossip, it's interesting to consider the impact of such events on the monarchy's reputation. Some even speculate that Camilla might have been involved in the leak of these stories, adding an extra layer to the intrigue.

Taking a step back, it's worth pondering whether the monarchy should be concerned about being upstaged in this day and age. Are we witnessing a shift in priorities and expectations?

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DaphneduM · 12/06/2023 11:19

While it was a shrewd business decision to go as a Limited Liability Company in 2019, personally I would have thought that before they went into Administration they could have paid off some of their outstanding taxes owing to the Inland Revenue (this is in addition to the Covid loan which people are talking about here). Owing over half a million pounds to the Inland Revenue (i.e. the taxpayer i.e. us) isn't a good look in my opinion. But they obviously aren't concerned about the views of ordinary people and are presumably happy to brazen it out.

polkadotdalmation · 12/06/2023 11:29

So boring and repetitive to keep criticising a company that folded because of covid but of course it's because they are Kate's patents. It's pathetic as the company is on of thousands in that position.

I'm amazed total strangers are aware off the intimate financial details and who was and wasn't repaid. They did nothing illegal and they certainly didn't commit perjury

Serenster · 12/06/2023 11:31

HMRC is a big creditor in almost every corporate insolvency. Just saying…

DaphneduM · 12/06/2023 11:45

polkadotdalmation · 12/06/2023 11:29

So boring and repetitive to keep criticising a company that folded because of covid but of course it's because they are Kate's patents. It's pathetic as the company is on of thousands in that position.

I'm amazed total strangers are aware off the intimate financial details and who was and wasn't repaid. They did nothing illegal and they certainly didn't commit perjury

It's a matter of public record at Company's House for any company in this situation.

TooBigForMyBoots · 12/06/2023 11:50

Darthwazette · 29/05/2023 09:32

I imagine they get more clicks when the masses are stirred up in hatred. Meghan’s too quiet now so they need to go back to Kate (who had awful stories for years pre-Meghan!)

This.
The misogyny meted out by our press to women who marry royals is disgusting.

justasking111 · 12/06/2023 12:21

Serenster · 12/06/2023 11:31

HMRC is a big creditor in almost every corporate insolvency. Just saying…

They're top dog, followed by the bank. And the liquidators whose charges should be illegal. The creditors/little people no one cares about at all. I've gone through swathes of paperwork the liquidators send culminating in 0.9 pence in the pound on one occasion. HMRC never lose.

Ohpleeeease · 12/06/2023 12:30

Morestrangerthings · Today 09:29
Criticising the Middletons is equivalent to criticising Doria Ragland, but you don’t see anyone doing that here.
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No, no criticism of Doria on this thread but plenty of it on others. (And much of it vile). This thread title is about Kate Middleton and the press turning on her. So not sure why Meghan’s mother would be a topic of conversation on here.
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But yes, the press are having a go at Kate’s parents. Therefore criticising Kate by proxy, imo.

Just to be clear, I was drawing a parallel between criticising one royal adjacent parent over another. I don’t think either of them warrant criticism by virtue of their connection.

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 12:54

I'm not Team anyone and I feel terrible for both Meghan and Kate. The rift is obviously between Harry, William and Charles but of course, the trashy misogynistic media mainly focuses on Kate vs Meghan.

They're the ones getting most of the hate. Their marriages are constantly under attack, the children are getting threats, weird conspiracies (the weirdest one is that A&L don't exist), their extended families are getting attacked on both sides,...it's jut too much. I feel terrible for both of them.

I don't care about Kate and Meghan's so-called feud about lipstick, bridesmaid dresses and that Kate felt uncomfortable when a stranger hugged her. I don't care that the Middletons took a government loan during Covid like so thousands of other businesses did during Covid. Leave Doria alone, I don't even get why people attack her when she's been the only one in Meghan's family who has remained classy and dignified. I don't care about the state of Kate and William's marriage. If they're happy, good for them. If they have an arrangement and would rather stay together to give their children the stability William never had, that's their business. Maybe, he did have an affair and she decided to forgive him, like millions of women have around the world, that's their business though.
Family feuds happen but I hope they can reconcile one day, at least so that the cousins could get to know each other. I know Kate is close to her family. Her sister also has 3 kids so I assume the Middleton cousins are close but Meghan is not close to her siblings (rightfully so) and Harry only has one brother. I think about my childhood and how my cousins were my best friends. It's a really sad situation

What I would like to know however is why our King received millions from the Qatari and Saudi governments, the Bin Laden family.

Also interesting how the media are not focusing on Charles' charity the Fairbridge Society, when, in 2018, it was discovered than more than 200 children were sexually abused. The Prince's Trust then pledged to compensate the victims and he never did.

In 2022, the High Court of Justice awarded £204,000 to each victims yet Charles' charity only committed to pay 1% of that amount.
He can easily pay that money. Hell, he can sell one of his properties and pay those victims. This is a bad look and I can't believe this story is not everywhere in the media

Interesting how the media are not focusing on that story but let's bash the Middletons, who, unlike the royals, are self-made, took a risk, worked hard to create a successful business and manage to provide a great life for their children.

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 13:34

My god Nono i knew nothing about Fairbrige.. That has shocked me. I’m going to look for more info on this.

Very disturbing.

I did know about the money in a carrier bag. The explanation never made much sense to me but I accepted it.

Just lately, it’s really begun to sink in how the ultra rich and privileged live such different lives to the rest of us. Not in regard to the obvious - bigger houses, jets etc.. that’s all obviously different so no mystery. But in the way they operate seemingly conscienceless in regard to some things while the rest of us plod along all our lives trying to do the right thing … oblivious, I guess, on a day to day basis, to how wealth and power corrupts people:,it’s really starting to sink in. I always thought the RF different , essentially decent at heart, with some messed up dysfunctional intra family relationships. But what you have written about Charles’ failure to pay proper compensation (as ordered by the high court) to child sexual abuse victims has shocked me, As I reread your post I’m shocked again.

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 13:47

Actually turns out I I did know about Fairbridge. An awful life for the boys who had to endure it. But not about the commitments made, and now seemingly broken, by the Princes Trust? I’ll read more.

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 13:50

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/06/2023 13:36

@Nono22972 This is a recent Guardian article on fairbridge, it is truly an awful story.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/24/what-links-princes-trust-fairbridge-society-historical-uk-child-migration

I didn't know anything about this story until the Guardian posted this article 2 weeks ago. And the fact that these poor young boys were sent away to colonies to "have a better life". My heart broke when I read those two articles. This is basically government child trafficking. Let's be real

https://archive.ph/vKySY

Now, these damaging recent articles about Kate and her family must be coming from Charles' office to distract us from this story.

I've always said that a lot of Harry's stories are inconsistent and can be debunked but I've always believed him when he said that Charles briefed negative stories about him and William because his PR operations have been well documented in the past. Let's not forget that he hired Mark Bolland to rehabilitate Camilla’s image and they leaked to the press details of the first meeting between William and Camilla to make it seem like the boys were accepting of her ONLY A FEW MONTHS AFTER DIANA DIED. What kind of a father does that?

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https://archive.ph/vKySY

Roussette · 12/06/2023 13:53

I had heard of this (but not the name 'Fairbridge') of children sent off to Australia and suffering horrendous physical and sexual abuse.

I didn't know about its tie up to Princes Trust Shock The more I read the more I don't understand... Princes Trust 'absorbed' Fairbridge under its wing in 2011. Why? 'Fairbridge' is all over the UK.

What those poor people went through all those years ago should be investigated and they should be compensated.

As far as the Middletons...
I find it appalling. Very many small family owned businesses will suffer or go under from their bills to PartyP being unpaid, one an Afghan immigrant owed a year's trading money. Why the hell William who is worth at least £40M can't step in, I do not know. That's what rich son-in-law's do. To let all those small companies go to the wall is awful. And I am gobsmacked at the amount of debt they accrued prior to pulling the plug.
Just My Opinion before I'm jumped on from a great height.

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 13:59

I think some posters aren't being very media-literate TBH.

Clearly the scandalous abuse at Fairbridge was before the Prince's Trust took it over. So I doubt the King has any interest in gushing it up. It wasn't on his watch.

The notion that he is leaking the stories about Party Pieces makes no sense, either. It's a story available from public records that the tabloids were never going to be able to resist and it is being boosted by various creditors "speaking out" in turn. It will run out of steam as a story in time. The Middletons have done nothing illegal.

Roussette · 12/06/2023 14:03

I agree, they have done nothing illegal.

However, that doesn't mean the optics aren't bad. The massive wealth of the RF and their son in law and they close a business leaving humungous debts and small businesses struggling or folding.

Not illegal no
But I am surprised this wasn't managed better. They must've known the tabloids would get hold of it.

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 14:05

King Charles urged to intervene The Prince’s Trust is legally liable for the survivors’ claims because it took over Fairbridge, a UK-focused charity whose previous iteration ran the farm schools, in 2012.
Although the UK high court last year put the value of the Fairbridge survivors’ claims at around £204,000 each (A$382,000), administrators for the redress scheme have told survivors they will receive about 1% of that figure because “insufficient moneys” have been set aside for the claims by the Prince’s Trust.

King Charles urged to intervene over ‘insulting’ child sexual abuse payments

Exclusive: Surviving victims of ‘farm school’ abuse will only receive £2,000 each from Prince’s Trust, which took over liabilities of Fairbridge Society

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/may/24/king-charles-urged-to-intervene-over-insulting-child-sexual-abuse-payments

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 14:06

Ohpleeeease · 12/06/2023 12:30

Morestrangerthings · Today 09:29
Criticising the Middletons is equivalent to criticising Doria Ragland, but you don’t see anyone doing that here.
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No, no criticism of Doria on this thread but plenty of it on others. (And much of it vile). This thread title is about Kate Middleton and the press turning on her. So not sure why Meghan’s mother would be a topic of conversation on here.
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But yes, the press are having a go at Kate’s parents. Therefore criticising Kate by proxy, imo.

Just to be clear, I was drawing a parallel between criticising one royal adjacent parent over another. I don’t think either of them warrant criticism by virtue of their connection.

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JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:06

They could have probably cleared the debts from their personal funds, if they were that worried.

Nobody would give them that advice from a financial standpoint, though.

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 14:07

@Iwantcakeeveryday and we know that the Daily Mail is not going to touch this story because its former editor, Tobyn Andreae, is now Charles' new communications secretary. Shocker

This is why, even though, I don't really like her, I defend Meghan as much as I can. Yes, her and Harry's stories have inconsistencies, have brought a lot of hate to the family (W&K especially) and it's put Britain and the RF in a negative light. The family have a right to be upset but at least, they're not involved in shady business like Charles is

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:08

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 14:05

King Charles urged to intervene The Prince’s Trust is legally liable for the survivors’ claims because it took over Fairbridge, a UK-focused charity whose previous iteration ran the farm schools, in 2012.
Although the UK high court last year put the value of the Fairbridge survivors’ claims at around £204,000 each (A$382,000), administrators for the redress scheme have told survivors they will receive about 1% of that figure because “insufficient moneys” have been set aside for the claims by the Prince’s Trust.

Yes current management are responsible for addressing it as employees of the successor organisation, but it's hardly the dark tale that PP was trying to make out. It wasn't the King's watch that the abuse happened on. I'm sure it's all being carefully considered.

Roussette · 12/06/2023 14:09

Well said @Nono22972

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:10

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 14:07

@Iwantcakeeveryday and we know that the Daily Mail is not going to touch this story because its former editor, Tobyn Andreae, is now Charles' new communications secretary. Shocker

This is why, even though, I don't really like her, I defend Meghan as much as I can. Yes, her and Harry's stories have inconsistencies, have brought a lot of hate to the family (W&K especially) and it's put Britain and the RF in a negative light. The family have a right to be upset but at least, they're not involved in shady business like Charles is

Can you explain that a little bit? You defend Meghan because of something to do with a charity taken over by the Prince's Trust....?

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 14:15

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:10

Can you explain that a little bit? You defend Meghan because of something to do with a charity taken over by the Prince's Trust....?

I'm just saying people always that woman of being so evil and bringing down the reputation of the monarchy but scandals like Fairbridge, Charles taking money from Qatar and Saudi governments and the Bin Laden family and not to forget the Prince Andrew - Epstein scandal are far more damaging to the monarchy that what Harry and Meghan have done

Serenster · 12/06/2023 14:22

King Charles is only the President of the Prince’s Trust now, he has absolutely no executive or decision-making powers. What happens next is up up its Council and the Executive Leadership team.

(I suspect there will be some queries going on behind the scenes about what due diligence was undertaken when the charities merged…).

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