Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

The royal family

See all MNHQ comments on this thread

The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate

1000 replies

Whatt · 29/05/2023 07:56

Today, I wanted to share something thought-provoking that has caught my attention recently - a noticeable change in the way the media portrays Kate Middleton.

Some publications that previously showed favor towards Kate (DM cough, cough) have started publishing stories that present her in a more critical light. It's an interesting shift.

Firstly, there's a story circulating about an encounter between Kate and a convicted murderer at a charity event. Additionally, there's talk of the taxpayer potentially providing support for her family's struggling business. This raises questions about the circumstances surrounding their business venture and the implications it may have for public funds.

What's intriguing is the parallel being drawn between Kate's current media treatment and the scrutiny faced by Meghan Markle in the past. It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

Furthermore, there's some buzz on Twitter suggesting that Kate may have unintentionally upstaged the King during the Chelsea Flower Show. While it may seem like harmless gossip, it's interesting to consider the impact of such events on the monarchy's reputation. Some even speculate that Camilla might have been involved in the leak of these stories, adding an extra layer to the intrigue.

Taking a step back, it's worth pondering whether the monarchy should be concerned about being upstaged in this day and age. Are we witnessing a shift in priorities and expectations?

OP posts:
Thread gallery
37
Rapidtango · 11/06/2023 16:13

Iwantcakeeveryday · 11/06/2023 10:29

Thank you but I am going to carry on contributing to this discussion. Nobody is being demonised, it's a criticism of their choices and borrowing from the public.

Your stance is a little odd - are you this vocal about the thousands of other businesses who received COVID loans and have since ceased trading owing creditors? No? Thought not. Just another stick.......

AliceOlive · 11/06/2023 16:14

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

jeffgoldblum · 11/06/2023 16:17

@AliceOlive , I've pm'd you 💐

AliceOlive · 11/06/2023 16:18

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 11/06/2023 16:37

@AliceOlive I am not attacking, I am commenting and criticising sas thousands of others have about the super wealthy parents of the future queen borrowing money from tax payers and then leaving debt while remaining wealthy. There is nothing obscure or unusual about this. please stop.

Rapidtango · 11/06/2023 18:45

But why are you only complaining about the Middletons? Well, it's obvious, you have a bee in your bunnet about the royal family and anyone connected with them. You're stretching so far you'll be falling off that pedestal you're sitting on..........

Many thousands of companies were loaned/given much more, some fraudulently. Many have ceased trading owing creditors. COVID, followed by a col crisis has adversely impacted thousands of hospitality businesses. Are you going to berate them all for trying to keep their businesses afloat by accepting any government help to which they were entitled? Of course not.

polkadotdalmation · 11/06/2023 19:22

Stalkedbyzombies · 11/06/2023 15:27

There is always so much conversation on what Meghan cost the tax payers, so fairs fair.

So this is what it is really about? Not the thousands and thousands of business people who have done this for over years and years without bothering you.

Exactly. Petty and scraping the barrel to throw shade at a perfectly decent couple who lost their business due to Covid.

No one has said anything about the price of meghan and Harry's wedding, but was it 26 million? Total waste of money for a few months actual work. That alone would have saved many many Covid wrecked businesses.

polkadotdalmation · 11/06/2023 19:26

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

justasking111 · 11/06/2023 19:27

polkadotdalmation · 11/06/2023 19:22

Exactly. Petty and scraping the barrel to throw shade at a perfectly decent couple who lost their business due to Covid.

No one has said anything about the price of meghan and Harry's wedding, but was it 26 million? Total waste of money for a few months actual work. That alone would have saved many many Covid wrecked businesses.

My parents business went to the wall. I've known others customers of ours who also did.

Folks who've always been employed in recession proof employment really can't understand.

polkadotdalmation · 11/06/2023 19:32

@justasking111 God, I can remember all the Covid horror stories of businesses failing, and desperate owners of small customer based business going to the wall. It was just a dreadful time for so many.

Some people/person on here determined to make capital out of a genuine disastrous period in people's lives should be ashamed.

Stalkedbyzombies · 11/06/2023 19:35

The financial help they claimed was a drop in the ocean compared to the value of the PPE contracts given out to Tory mates such as Hancock's pub landlord. There were some cases where they were just about scraping by one month and multi millionaires a few months later because of who they knew. I do not see this poster complaining about them.

WinnieTheW0rm · 11/06/2023 19:55

Iwantcakeeveryday · 11/06/2023 16:37

@AliceOlive I am not attacking, I am commenting and criticising sas thousands of others have about the super wealthy parents of the future queen borrowing money from tax payers and then leaving debt while remaining wealthy. There is nothing obscure or unusual about this. please stop.

So should the covid business continuity loan scheme have been more strictly controlled?

Probably yes.

But should one of those controls be based on the in-laws of the company founders?

Definitely not.

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/06/2023 07:15

Rapidtango · 11/06/2023 18:45

But why are you only complaining about the Middletons? Well, it's obvious, you have a bee in your bunnet about the royal family and anyone connected with them. You're stretching so far you'll be falling off that pedestal you're sitting on..........

Many thousands of companies were loaned/given much more, some fraudulently. Many have ceased trading owing creditors. COVID, followed by a col crisis has adversely impacted thousands of hospitality businesses. Are you going to berate them all for trying to keep their businesses afloat by accepting any government help to which they were entitled? Of course not.

Because this is the royal board. You have zero clue if I do complain or not abut anyone else . They should not be exempt from criticism because of who they are.

clyspa · 12/06/2023 08:50

Just curious but how many of us would put our hands in our pocket to support a family member whose business has failed?

I don't think the amount matters ultimately though appreciate in reality bunging someone 50 quid is very different from 2 million ....

On the other hand I can appreciate why people can be upset to see wealthy people lose their business and people don't get paid/ lose their jobs but the rich owner just carries on.., thinking of people like Jamie Oliver for example (not to say bills were not finally settled but don't believe so correct me if I am wrong, he had to sell his home etc to clear the debts when his restaurants folded?) but I believe this is because their personal wealth is separate from the business accounts

justasking111 · 12/06/2023 08:58

clyspa · 12/06/2023 08:50

Just curious but how many of us would put our hands in our pocket to support a family member whose business has failed?

I don't think the amount matters ultimately though appreciate in reality bunging someone 50 quid is very different from 2 million ....

On the other hand I can appreciate why people can be upset to see wealthy people lose their business and people don't get paid/ lose their jobs but the rich owner just carries on.., thinking of people like Jamie Oliver for example (not to say bills were not finally settled but don't believe so correct me if I am wrong, he had to sell his home etc to clear the debts when his restaurants folded?) but I believe this is because their personal wealth is separate from the business accounts

YES I have put my hand deeply into my pocket to support a struggling family business and am being repaid. No I didn't put my hand in my pocket to save another business on the edge of bankruptcy, having checked the books it was better it folded.

clyspa · 12/06/2023 09:02

Thanks for your reply - I'm the same, have helped a friends business (still ended up folding) but felt it was the right thing to do.

I guess I am just thinking that some people might be expecting Kate and William to step in (or pippa and her husband) and indeed they could but it's the sense of they should because they are royal strikes me as a bit odd

justasking111 · 12/06/2023 09:04

Wealthy and not wealthy your accountant will advise you on whether you should have a limited company. Protecting yourself from homelessness is sensible and saves the state money.

The government's across the UK offer grants for all sorts of things. Staff, equipment, buildings. Match funding is common. Some of these businesses fail, some thrive. When they thrive they pay taxes.

justasking111 · 12/06/2023 09:08

clyspa · 12/06/2023 09:02

Thanks for your reply - I'm the same, have helped a friends business (still ended up folding) but felt it was the right thing to do.

I guess I am just thinking that some people might be expecting Kate and William to step in (or pippa and her husband) and indeed they could but it's the sense of they should because they are royal strikes me as a bit odd

Kate and Pippa may well have considered helping out. BUT there's no point if the business has had its day and the owners were of retirement age. Which is why I didn't at the time put money into my parents business. But helped them financially afterwards.

tigger2022 · 12/06/2023 09:12

I wonder whether to some extent the company could even be “saved” with donations, since people’s behaviour changed so much post-covid?

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 09:13

Puzzledanddissatisfied · 29/05/2023 09:10

It’s not the Middleton family business now is it? Considering the buy out was widely reported a couple of weeks ago. Keep up!

And it's already gone bust, not "struggling".

Serenster · 12/06/2023 09:18

Just on the tax point - for the 30 plus years that the business traded very profitably, it was structured as a partnership. Traditional partnerships mean you don’t have to publicly disclose information about your income and financial situation, as companies do. So it’s good if you want to keep your finances private.

On the other hand, income from the partnership is shared between the partners and is treated as their personal income. So it is all taxed at the personal rate. For the Middletons, this would have meant most of their income would have been taxed at 40-45%.

They only incorporated their business in 2019. Companies pay corporate tax at rates of 19%. So, overall, the treasury still comes out better off from the Middleton’s decision to keep the business as a partnership for most of its trading.

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 09:29

Criticising the Middletons is equivalent to criticising Doria Ragland, but you don’t see anyone doing that here.

No, no criticism of Doria on this thread but plenty of it on others. (And much of it vile). This thread title is about Kate Middleton and the press turning on her. So not sure why Meghan’s mother would be a topic of conversation on here.

But yes, the press are having a go at Kate’s parents. Therefore criticising Kate by proxy, imo.

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 10:00

The financial help they claimed was a drop in the ocean compared to the value of the PPE contracts given out to Tory mates such as Hancock's pub landlord. There were some cases where they were just about scraping by one month and multi millionaires a few months later because of who they knew. I do not see this poster complaining about them.

why would a poster be complaining about PPE deals for mates when this is Royal Family forum?

Stalkedbyzombies · 12/06/2023 10:08

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

Morestrangerthings · 12/06/2023 10:15

The poster stated her reasons.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.