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The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate

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Whatt · 29/05/2023 07:56

Today, I wanted to share something thought-provoking that has caught my attention recently - a noticeable change in the way the media portrays Kate Middleton.

Some publications that previously showed favor towards Kate (DM cough, cough) have started publishing stories that present her in a more critical light. It's an interesting shift.

Firstly, there's a story circulating about an encounter between Kate and a convicted murderer at a charity event. Additionally, there's talk of the taxpayer potentially providing support for her family's struggling business. This raises questions about the circumstances surrounding their business venture and the implications it may have for public funds.

What's intriguing is the parallel being drawn between Kate's current media treatment and the scrutiny faced by Meghan Markle in the past. It's worth discussing whether there's a connection or simply a coincidence.

Furthermore, there's some buzz on Twitter suggesting that Kate may have unintentionally upstaged the King during the Chelsea Flower Show. While it may seem like harmless gossip, it's interesting to consider the impact of such events on the monarchy's reputation. Some even speculate that Camilla might have been involved in the leak of these stories, adding an extra layer to the intrigue.

Taking a step back, it's worth pondering whether the monarchy should be concerned about being upstaged in this day and age. Are we witnessing a shift in priorities and expectations?

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Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 14:23

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:06

They could have probably cleared the debts from their personal funds, if they were that worried.

Nobody would give them that advice from a financial standpoint, though.

Exactly! The High Court ruling was in November 2022 so after Charles became King. He clearly can't use the Duchy of Cornwall but he's the holder of the Duchy of Lancaster, which makes approximately £24 million per year. He clearly has the money to pay the victims

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/06/2023 14:23

@Roussette oh I don't think William should step in or that he needs to, they have assets worth far more than the debts that are owed.

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:27

I'm just saying people always that woman of being so evil and bringing down the reputation of the monarchy but scandals like Fairbridge, Charles taking money from Qatar and Saudi governments and the Bin Laden family and not to forget the Prince Andrew - Epstein scandal are far more damaging to the monarchy that what Harry and Meghan have done

Ah, got you.

I just can't see Fairbridge as a problem directly linked to royals like Epstein or the cash-in-carrier-bags.

We could certainly do with more broadsheet reporting about royals and less tabloid waffle about what the women are wearing.

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:29

Exactly! The High Court ruling was in November 2022 so after Charles became King. He clearly can't use the Duchy of Cornwall but he's the holder of the Duchy of Lancaster, which makes approximately £24 million per year. He clearly has the money to pay the victims

I'm sure the Middletons have the money to pay the creditors, (and they would have done that m, however eccentric, if they were that worried about optics), but the business was a separate legal person to them and they don't have to.

Rapidtango · 12/06/2023 14:32

Iwantcakeeveryday · 12/06/2023 14:23

@Roussette oh I don't think William should step in or that he needs to, they have assets worth far more than the debts that are owed.

So are you suggesting the Middletons alone, of every company that has ever ceased trading owing creditors, should pay their creditors out of their own pockets? Because their daughter married a member of the RF? Is that what you're suggesting?

Roussette · 12/06/2023 14:37

Rapidtango · 12/06/2023 14:32

So are you suggesting the Middletons alone, of every company that has ever ceased trading owing creditors, should pay their creditors out of their own pockets? Because their daughter married a member of the RF? Is that what you're suggesting?

Why not? They are unique. One of a kind. Parents of the future Queen. Why could he have not injected some of his cash (of which there is about £40M) to have a less messy winding down of a Company so that many other small family businesses don't have to fold or suffer.

Family companies (of which PP is one) have cash injections from rich relatives all the time

TheMurderousGoose · 12/06/2023 14:39

Rapidtango · 12/06/2023 14:32

So are you suggesting the Middletons alone, of every company that has ever ceased trading owing creditors, should pay their creditors out of their own pockets? Because their daughter married a member of the RF? Is that what you're suggesting?

doesn't sound that wild to me.

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:43

Why not? They are unique. One of a kind. Parents of the future Queen.

Problem with that @Roussette is it creates a precedent. If it becomes accepted that the royals help non-royal in-laws with business debt, what next? Housing help? Police protection?

Charles did that kind of thing for Camilla before they married (gave her a clothing budget, lent her a butler, arranged security, etc). But quietly. It wouldn't go down well with tue Public if in-laws started getting all that.

Roussette · 12/06/2023 14:52

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:43

Why not? They are unique. One of a kind. Parents of the future Queen.

Problem with that @Roussette is it creates a precedent. If it becomes accepted that the royals help non-royal in-laws with business debt, what next? Housing help? Police protection?

Charles did that kind of thing for Camilla before they married (gave her a clothing budget, lent her a butler, arranged security, etc). But quietly. It wouldn't go down well with tue Public if in-laws started getting all that.

But, would anyone have ever known? William has access to a great amount of money himself, surely he could have given a cash injection

Charles set up trusts for Camilla's children long before he married Camilla, and provided and paid for protection for her. This was someone he intended to marry but wasn't married to.
William has in-laws struggling, he couldve quietly helped out

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:54

But, would anyone have ever known?

Fair point. I suppose the gamble is that if it eventually was found out, there could be more outcry.

clyspa · 12/06/2023 14:54

Blimey the mental gymnastics of some posters .....defend Meghan because of fair bridge?

Cray cray

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 14:54

Roussette · 12/06/2023 14:52

But, would anyone have ever known? William has access to a great amount of money himself, surely he could have given a cash injection

Charles set up trusts for Camilla's children long before he married Camilla, and provided and paid for protection for her. This was someone he intended to marry but wasn't married to.
William has in-laws struggling, he couldve quietly helped out

And also this, after they got married

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3738241/Charles-paid-1-5m-Camilla-s-sister-helped-hide-affair-interior-designer-sibling-earnt-huge-sums-Duchy-Cornwall-string-revamps-past-11-years.html?fbclid=PAAaZbjA3a1AZ8ocQapnZ7g3ydDfgSJizmtTrI6isP_E6VOypa9zyKyyQUohQ

The sudden unusual turn on Princess Kate
Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 14:56

Roussette · 12/06/2023 14:52

But, would anyone have ever known? William has access to a great amount of money himself, surely he could have given a cash injection

Charles set up trusts for Camilla's children long before he married Camilla, and provided and paid for protection for her. This was someone he intended to marry but wasn't married to.
William has in-laws struggling, he couldve quietly helped out

Isn't Pippa's husband richer than the RF? The Middletons will be fine

TheMurderousGoose · 12/06/2023 14:57

JeandeServiette · 12/06/2023 14:54

But, would anyone have ever known?

Fair point. I suppose the gamble is that if it eventually was found out, there could be more outcry.

would there be outcry? I think most people would think 'that seems fair' if they found out William paid off the debts thus ensuring small business creditors got what was owed to them.

Roussette · 12/06/2023 14:58

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 14:56

Isn't Pippa's husband richer than the RF? The Middletons will be fine

But sadly the businessess they've left in the lurch won't 😳

Toujoursla896 · 12/06/2023 15:02

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 12:54

I'm not Team anyone and I feel terrible for both Meghan and Kate. The rift is obviously between Harry, William and Charles but of course, the trashy misogynistic media mainly focuses on Kate vs Meghan.

They're the ones getting most of the hate. Their marriages are constantly under attack, the children are getting threats, weird conspiracies (the weirdest one is that A&L don't exist), their extended families are getting attacked on both sides,...it's jut too much. I feel terrible for both of them.

I don't care about Kate and Meghan's so-called feud about lipstick, bridesmaid dresses and that Kate felt uncomfortable when a stranger hugged her. I don't care that the Middletons took a government loan during Covid like so thousands of other businesses did during Covid. Leave Doria alone, I don't even get why people attack her when she's been the only one in Meghan's family who has remained classy and dignified. I don't care about the state of Kate and William's marriage. If they're happy, good for them. If they have an arrangement and would rather stay together to give their children the stability William never had, that's their business. Maybe, he did have an affair and she decided to forgive him, like millions of women have around the world, that's their business though.
Family feuds happen but I hope they can reconcile one day, at least so that the cousins could get to know each other. I know Kate is close to her family. Her sister also has 3 kids so I assume the Middleton cousins are close but Meghan is not close to her siblings (rightfully so) and Harry only has one brother. I think about my childhood and how my cousins were my best friends. It's a really sad situation

What I would like to know however is why our King received millions from the Qatari and Saudi governments, the Bin Laden family.

Also interesting how the media are not focusing on Charles' charity the Fairbridge Society, when, in 2018, it was discovered than more than 200 children were sexually abused. The Prince's Trust then pledged to compensate the victims and he never did.

In 2022, the High Court of Justice awarded £204,000 to each victims yet Charles' charity only committed to pay 1% of that amount.
He can easily pay that money. Hell, he can sell one of his properties and pay those victims. This is a bad look and I can't believe this story is not everywhere in the media

Interesting how the media are not focusing on that story but let's bash the Middletons, who, unlike the royals, are self-made, took a risk, worked hard to create a successful business and manage to provide a great life for their children.

Ageeed. Let’s focus on what is important.

What is this about the Fairbridge society? It’s not a news story I am familiar with?

Can we have some links please?

Roussette · 12/06/2023 15:05

Toujoursla896 · 12/06/2023 15:02

Ageeed. Let’s focus on what is important.

What is this about the Fairbridge society? It’s not a news story I am familiar with?

Can we have some links please?

There's two or three further back up the thread 😊

Toujoursla896 · 12/06/2023 15:07

Roussette · 12/06/2023 15:05

There's two or three further back up the thread 😊

Thank you Roussette my screen is a bit battered so difficult to scroll! 😊

callingeveryone · 12/06/2023 15:23

The Middleton's business did fail because of covid, it was already in trouble. It made half a million profit in its best years and collapsed with around 2.5 million in debt.
The Middletons sold it for £180,000. So they were not the owners when it collapsed. But it must have been sold to asset strippers, nothing else makes sense.
The mistake some small businesses made was in thinking the Middletons would behave honorably, instead of simply legally.

Rapidtango · 12/06/2023 15:23

Why is the Princes Trust suddenly getting the blame for the Fairbridge Society's failings?

callingeveryone · 12/06/2023 15:26

The Middletons business did not fail because of covid - aagghh lack of an edit button!

callingeveryone · 12/06/2023 15:29

@Rapidtango The Prince's Trust are being blamed for their response to their legal liabilities i.e. failing to pay court-ordered damages.

tigger2022 · 12/06/2023 15:31

callingeveryone · 12/06/2023 15:29

@Rapidtango The Prince's Trust are being blamed for their response to their legal liabilities i.e. failing to pay court-ordered damages.

Because the PT took over their liabilities and victims felt compensation was not enough

Nono22972 · 12/06/2023 15:32

Rapidtango · 12/06/2023 15:23

Why is the Princes Trust suddenly getting the blame for the Fairbridge Society's failings?

Because the Prince's Trust absorbed it in 2012.

6 years later, the abuse came to light and The Trust pledged to compensate the victims and The trust then established "Fairbridge Restored Ltd" and placed it into insolvency and tasked administrators to deal with compensation pay-outs in 2020

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