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PH lost bid to challenge for right to pay Home Office for his security

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Mumsnut · 23/05/2023 10:34

I've probably garbled that, but that's the gist of it.

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jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 10:18

Ohh this sounds exciting!!! , someone please start another thread when we get close to the end of this one!
I've a feeling this will fill up before anything interesting happens!

polkadotdalmation · 06/06/2023 10:19

Hopefully Harry will apologise for yesterdays no show.

polkadotdalmation · 06/06/2023 10:20

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 10:18

Ohh this sounds exciting!!! , someone please start another thread when we get close to the end of this one!
I've a feeling this will fill up before anything interesting happens!

Yes, lots of milling around outside at the moment. Going to be a long one.

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 10:21

I'd doubt it @polkadotdalmation , I don't think Harry does apologies!
Although I would like to be proven wrong 😑

mixedrecycling · 06/06/2023 10:21

He is suing the publisher, claiming journalists at its titles – which also include the Sunday Mirror and Sunday People – were linked to methods including phone hacking, so-called “blagging” or gaining information by deception, and use of private investigators for unlawful activities.

His barrister David Sherborne claimed the duke was subjected to unlawful information-gathering activity “right from when he was a young boy at school” into adulthood, adding: “Nothing was sacrosanct or out of bounds.”

Andrew Green KC, acting for MGN, said there was no evidence that hacking of Harry’s phone took place. “Zilch, zero, nil, de nada, niente, nothing,” he said.

From the Guardian

Prince Harry due to give evidence in Mirror Group phone hacking trial – live

Duke of Sussex, one of numerous claimants, expected to speak at the High Court after failing to appear on Monday

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2023/jun/06/prince-harry-phone-hacking-trial-court-case-mirror-group-newspapers-latest-updates#maincontent

AutumnCrow · 06/06/2023 10:22

All my court experiences have have involved huge amounts of waiting around. I was once, as a witness, misplaced by the clerks. It's often not as smooth as it ought to be!

mixedrecycling · 06/06/2023 10:23

AutumnCrow · 06/06/2023 10:22

All my court experiences have have involved huge amounts of waiting around. I was once, as a witness, misplaced by the clerks. It's often not as smooth as it ought to be!

Are you a criminal mastermind, or the avenger of the down trodden? 😂

jeffgoldblum · 06/06/2023 10:24

Misplaced @AutumnCrow ? , sounds less professional than I've been led to believe 🤣

MayQueeen · 06/06/2023 10:27

‘He’s going on about things that might have happened when Princess Diana was alive and when Michael Barrymore was a household name.’

thats the bit that’s thrown me about him spearheading this, surely he will have something more tangible and substantial?

other posters have alluded to Harry reliving/recreating Diana’s life and battles - the recent catastrophic car chase and this do lend weight to that theory

TrashyPanda · 06/06/2023 10:27

“Misplaced”?!?!?!

gives a new meaning to “finding yourself”

Elior · 06/06/2023 10:28

Claimants like Harry are a piece of piss to cross-examine, I expect.

AutumnCrow · 06/06/2023 10:29

On the 'misplaced' occasion, I was a professional witness in a court case and the clerk was instructed to put me in a waiting room but put me in the wrong one (apparently), and when it was time for me to give evidence the other clerk who was now on duty couldn't find me.

It was a shambles. The court building even had a tannoy system but nobody thought to use it to find me. I was waiting there for two hours while clerks 'scoured' the (not very big) building. Eventually somebody thought they'd better check the other waiting room. And there they found me, looking at the Reader's Digest in a desultory fashion.

CathyorClaire · 06/06/2023 10:29

‘He’s going on about things that might have happened when Princess Diana was alive and when Michael Barrymore was a household name.’

thats the bit that’s thrown me about him spearheading this, surely he will have something more tangible and substantial?

You'd think.

I saw reports that said he wouldn't be allowed to ramble 🙃

mixedrecycling · 06/06/2023 10:31

'He is suing the publisher, claiming journalists at its titles... were linked to methods including phone hacking, so-called “blagging” or gaining information by deception...'

It sounds a bit vague at the moment, but presumably he will be pointing to specific cases of illegal activity in his evidence.

AutumnCrow · 06/06/2023 10:32

Prince Harry has been sworn in.
David Sherborne, his barrister, confirms that after being referred to as “your royal highness” in the first instance, the duke will be subsequently referred to as “Prince Harry”.

from the Guardian

TrashyPanda · 06/06/2023 10:33

We can only wait and see what todays hearing brings forth in terms of evidence, relevance and clarity. Presumably KCs will try to keep a firm hand on proceedings. Along with the judge, of course!

TrashyPanda · 06/06/2023 10:34

So the days of “just call me Harry” are now in the past

Puzzledandpissedoff · 06/06/2023 10:34

Nofixedabodewell · 05/06/2023 22:56

Harry is a product of his upbringing. He’s been brought up to think he’s special, above mere mortals who have to work for a living or consider the feelings of others.
If he doesn’t want to do something he won’t. He won’t countenance being thwarted or questioned or held to account. He likes to question others however and occupy the higher ground at all times. It’s quite sickening.
They are all like this, it’s just that they cover it up better than Harry.

Accurately put, except I'd add it was covered up better with Harry and isn't any more, because he no longer has the RF''s skilled PR around him
I honestly don't believe the rest would fare any better if shorn of those who so carefully protect their images, but unless anyone else breaks ranks we're not likely to see it

On a separate note, how good to see the attempts to derail (and get the thread deleted?) have been dealt with ... perhaps now we can all get back to sensible discussion

Elior · 06/06/2023 10:36

He considered becoming The Prince of Bel Air but it wasn't lucrative.

mixedrecycling · 06/06/2023 10:40

Apparently there are 147 press articles that his claim is based on - from the Guardian live feed

oaktreeswing · 06/06/2023 10:41

David Sherborne, his barrister, confirms that after being referred to as “your royal highness” in the first instance, the duke will be subsequently referred to as “Prince Harry”

Harry is so cringe... reminds me so much of his Uncle Andrew. The HRH is firmly in abeyance, is it not?

Rinoachicken · 06/06/2023 10:47

From the guardian feed:

”How can you say the articles caused you distress if you can’t recall reading them at the time of publication? Green asks.
I never said I didn’t read them, Harry says.
Harry says newspapers were often found in the royal household, he says.
Green gives one example of an article and asks if Harry can remember reading it, Harry says he can’t recall reading it at time of publication.
“I was a child, I was at school, these articles were incredibly invasive, every single time one of these articles was written it would have an impact on my life, the people around me, my mother in this case,” Harry says.
Green says Harry is essentially after recompense for general press intrusion rather than specific articles.”

ouch.

oaktreeswing · 06/06/2023 10:47

From the Telegraph:

The Duke of Sussex has made an extraordinary intervention into politics, claiming that the Government is at “rock bottom”.

oaktreeswing · 06/06/2023 10:49

Green says Harry is essentially after recompense for general press intrusion rather than specific articles.

That's about the sum of it

Rinoachicken · 06/06/2023 10:49

oaktreeswing · 06/06/2023 10:47

From the Telegraph:

The Duke of Sussex has made an extraordinary intervention into politics, claiming that the Government is at “rock bottom”.

😯