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Viviennemary · 2023-05-19T09:12:53+00:00

Article in the DM reporting that Rishi Sunak has apparently said Harry and Meghan's security issues in New York are not a priority for him when he was asked about the car chase. He is concentrating on policing and safety of people in this country.

WheelsUp · 19/05/2023 19:16

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 19:09

There are videos from eye witnesses saying how upsetting it was to watch the chase.

There was just one video of a young lady who never actually saw the chase. She saw Harry and family leaving the ballroom and paps followed them as they left. She didn't see the chase as such.

She said that the paps were shouting at them to try and get a reaction.

LadyPenelope68 · 19/05/2023 19:17

Absolutely correct. This country has enough money problems without funding security for 2 minor royals who’ve gone to live in the US.

AgnesX · 19/05/2023 19:17

One of the few sensible things to have come out of Downing St in recent months.

VinylCafe · 19/05/2023 19:22

TeaIsRisen · 19/05/2023 11:54

It obviously wasn't a stunt. Their NYPD escort felt the situation was so serious they removed Harry and Meghan to a police station and sheltered them in a police station, then orchestrated a manoeuvre where police moved Harry and Meghan to a second car (a yellow taxi) while the NYPD escort continued to escort the now-empty SUV that was the car being chased, to lure the pursuers into chasing the SUV in order to let the taxi slip away.

There are videos from eye witnesses saying how upsetting it was to watch the chase. No one is denying that 12 unmarked cars with covered up licence plates trying to follow them (going down to 4 unmarked cars), and that those cars were driving over sidewalks and the wrong way down one-way streets.

The idea that Harry hired a dozen drivers and a dozen cars with covered up licence plates and ordered them to pursue him just as a stunt is pretty extreme conspiracy theory.

However, why is Rishi making comments about random American celebrities? He should just say no comment. It's asinine for the BBC to ask, but it feels like both the BBC and Rishi are exploiting Harry and Meghan to get headlines.

Were you there when all this happened? Or did you read this online and believed it?

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 19:23

WheelsUp · 19/05/2023 19:16

She said that the paps were shouting at them to try and get a reaction.

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Ugh, awful. That's what they do, isn't it? They did it with Diana and Kate, too. They are horrible, nasty, reprehensible human beings. I don't know if they ever did it to Camilla but she'd probably have told them to 'narf orf'. 😆
Still, this woman didn't witness the actual chase.

mixedrecycling · 19/05/2023 19:26

From what I have read the security staff member has said a dozen vehicles - vehicles included bicycles and scooters, it was 12 cars/SUVs.

I can't find any witness saying that licence plates were covered up - given that most of the vehicles were bicycles and scooters there wouldn't have been any plates to cover up...

Where's the source for all these details?

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 19:30

Well I did see footage of photographers taking photos of the couple in the yellow cab. No one was shouting anything at them. Their security guard waved them away, although they were not at the actual windows, and they moved away and basically, were courteous (at least as much as someone taking unwanted photos).

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 19:31

mixedrecycling · 19/05/2023 19:15

I've tapped open a bottle of wine 😁

Later, of course, I will use some hallucinogenic drugs in a therapeutic way...

😂😂😂😂

silverfullmoon · 19/05/2023 19:32

BMW6 · 19/05/2023 10:43

Well they're not working Royals so their security is nothing to do with UK Government.

They are private citizens as they chose to be, so their security is up to them to fund

Absolutely. They left, so why should the UK fund their security? they dont even live in the bloody UK any more. They want to be independent- that's fine, so they can pay for their own security.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 19/05/2023 19:37

She said that the paps were shouting at them to try and get a reaction.

Oh no, so tragic. They shouted at them. My heart bleeds

Howsimplywonderful · 19/05/2023 19:38

But they need to pay for decent security. Their head of security is clearly terrible.

IcedPurple · 19/05/2023 19:38

mixedrecycling · 19/05/2023 19:26

From what I have read the security staff member has said a dozen vehicles - vehicles included bicycles and scooters, it was 12 cars/SUVs.

I can't find any witness saying that licence plates were covered up - given that most of the vehicles were bicycles and scooters there wouldn't have been any plates to cover up...

Where's the source for all these details?

I asked on another thread for the source for the 'blacked out licence plate' claims.

Amazingly, I never got a reply.

It's potentially a crime to drive around with covered up licence plates but the NYPD said that no arrests were made. I await a reply with a link to the relevant source.

tigger2022 · 19/05/2023 19:48

I really love the PR phrase nearly catastrophic… not catastrophic then 😂

By the same logic it was also nearly apocalyptic, nearly dreadful, nearly bothersome, nearly inconvenient

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/05/2023 19:49

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FloofCloud · 19/05/2023 20:24

LadyPenelope68 · 19/05/2023 19:17

Absolutely correct. This country has enough money problems without funding security for 2 minor royals who’ve gone to live in the US.

... minor talentless 'slebs who flaunt themselves to then whip up a maelstrom around themselves and demand everyone else pays ... even though they've sold everyone else out ... yep ... their own doing, fault and problem to solve

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 20:39

Well it would be the American taxpayers funding their security, as we have a reciprocal arrangement with America. Wonder how well that will go down?

Blackcatsalwaysrock · 19/05/2023 22:00

I find the most disturbing part of the whole thing is that I agree with Sunak. - the leader of the worst government since … etc

Prettylittleroses · 19/05/2023 22:07

I’d be utterly appalled if sunak said security for harry and Meghan and their non car chase in new york was his priority, like really, who the fuck cares, certainly shouldn’t be the British prime minister.

Blip · 20/05/2023 05:37

I don't believe that H&M were ever in any danger whatsoever..

No harm done and no arrests. Not even a car bumper scratch.

Just part of the Worldwide Privacy Tour and crappy non event fodder for their Netflix series.

powerrangers · 20/05/2023 06:24

He said cars in NY are not his responsibility. But yeah you go ahead and paraphrase that to rile up hate here OP.

Fiddlededeefiddlededoh · 20/05/2023 06:32

The problem for PH has been that all of his life the need for security has been amped right up for him so in his mind he struggles to feel safe I would imagine. It is a legacy of his position he was born into. I think that originally having his security pulled when he moved over was a show of withdrawal of love for him in his own mind too because of the emphasise that had been put on it for him his whole life. That threat is actually probably still there so it must be hard for him to feel that he and his family are safe. However I don’t think it is for RS or the British establishment to sort out now.

tigger2022 · 20/05/2023 06:37

Fiddlededeefiddlededoh · 20/05/2023 06:32

The problem for PH has been that all of his life the need for security has been amped right up for him so in his mind he struggles to feel safe I would imagine. It is a legacy of his position he was born into. I think that originally having his security pulled when he moved over was a show of withdrawal of love for him in his own mind too because of the emphasise that had been put on it for him his whole life. That threat is actually probably still there so it must be hard for him to feel that he and his family are safe. However I don’t think it is for RS or the British establishment to sort out now.

I think that’s part of it, he’s had armed security all his life. He’s been told his life was in danger all his life. He doesn’t process his change in status since he stepped back, since he became non-resident, and also since W’s kids were born, and therefore the reduction in risk. For him though it feels like taking the lock off the front door or something.

Maireas · 20/05/2023 07:09

The royal family never make security decisions, that's up to the professionals. In the Oprah interview they indicated that those decisions are taken by royals, they're not. You're right about Harry probably not being able to deal with it, though. He doesn't seem to understand that being outside the family means a lot of things, not just "freedom". It must be quite a change for him in every way.

notanotheroneagain · 20/05/2023 07:17

powerrangers · 20/05/2023 06:24

He said cars in NY are not his responsibility. But yeah you go ahead and paraphrase that to rile up hate here OP.

Yep

And the usuals are at it, getting themselves worked up.

notanotheroneagain · 20/05/2023 07:19

Fiddlededeefiddlededoh · 20/05/2023 06:32

The problem for PH has been that all of his life the need for security has been amped right up for him so in his mind he struggles to feel safe I would imagine. It is a legacy of his position he was born into. I think that originally having his security pulled when he moved over was a show of withdrawal of love for him in his own mind too because of the emphasise that had been put on it for him his whole life. That threat is actually probably still there so it must be hard for him to feel that he and his family are safe. However I don’t think it is for RS or the British establishment to sort out now.

I think that originally having his security pulled when he moved over was a show of withdrawal of love for him in his own mind too because of the emphasise that had been put on it for him his whole life.

Before Charles was married to Camilla, he paid for her security. He is currently paying for Andrew.
So nothing to do with leaving the job. Certainly nothing to do with being a member of the rf either.

Let that sink in.