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PicturesOfDogs · 2023-05-18T19:51:54+00:00

H&M have apparently ’demanded’ pap footage from Backgrid, according to TMZ. Their lawyer has replied with the following: *In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do. Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago. We stand by our founding fathers* Court case #6 incoming? [[https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/18/prince-harry-meghan-markle-demand-photo-agency-give-them-footage-of-chase/ https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/18/prince-harry-meghan-markle-demand-photo-agency-give-them-footage-of-chase/]]

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 10:25

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 10:16

It's the paparazzi (hidden I may add), of course they would say that.
Duh.

It was the paparazzi going around bumping off parked cars. Going over sidewalks etc.

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Have you pictures or statements from someone seeing the paps scooters and cars bumping off other cars and driving along the pavements? I think that's what we'd like to see because it would back up Harry's complaint and concern.

ShimmeringShirts · 19/05/2023 10:26

Clicked on this thread thinking the clothing store H&M had a suitable rival out there with clothes I might actually be able to wear. Don’t suppose anyone has any recommendations? I quite like H&M but their clothes never last.

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 10:27

skullbabe · 19/05/2023 08:40

I copy my comment from elsewhere to just clarify some things

H&M and Doria left an event when they were followed by paparazzi. They were being followed to find out where they were staying and perhaps to take pictures of their children. The economics of the industry are such that regular pictures don't really sell but an exclusive of them in a private setting, like exiting a friend's apartment building in casual clothes or with their children would be worth a fortune.

In an attempt to lose the paparazzi the couple’s security drive around the city taking one way streets and driving occasionally on the highway. The paparazzi, in an attempt to not lose them, drove through red lights (almost causing accidents), drove on the pavement (high potential of colliding with pedestrians) and overall drove around dangerously in their attempt not to lose a potentially lucrative shot/shots almost crashing into other traffic. There was no mention of high speeds by the couple but they have reported by the paparazzi themselves (in an attempt to distance themselves from the dangerous driving criticism).

In an attempt to lose the paparazzi they went to the police - at this point they caught a taxi to try and blend in. Unfortunately they were blocked in by a truck and they were found by the paparazzi who took more pictures. They returned to the police station after 10 -15 minutes in the taxi and finally figured out a way to lose the paparazzi.

The mayor, the police, the taxi driver and even the paparazzi themselves agree with this sequence of events of the night.

How would you describe the behaviour of the paparazzi towards the general public and other traffic?

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Gosh, imagine that host.

The papers would be ramaging through their bins next. No wonder they didn't want anyone to know where they were staying.

It's so funny to me how people minimise being followed by 2 cars. I remember when Ronan Farrow was investigating and exposing Weinstein, he was being followed and stalked by strange cars. Scary.
Hell, I remember walking to someplace in the evening and this bloke, he was probably going in the same direction coincidentally, he was behind me and crossed, when I crossed the road. I was bricking it, and went to some random restaurant.lol

muckandmerriment · 19/05/2023 10:29

Am I the only one who came on here thinking this thread was about the clothes shop?

ShimmeringShirts · 19/05/2023 10:30

@muckandmerriment see my above comment, glad I’m not the only one

KrasiTime · 19/05/2023 10:31

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 10:08

But surely they took their security with them on the plane? That's when they're most surrounded by people. But I guess, to be fair, it is cheaper to just pay local agencies. And maybe it makes more sense because one of the security team was an ex secret service guy and he said it was the worst thing he'd ever seen. But I'd think that surely secret service guys would be dealing with snipers and deadly situations so for him to be overwhelmed by paps seems a bit 😕.

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Doesn’t really inspire confidence in the security team does it? Or maybe that’s the plan cynic

tonkywonky · 19/05/2023 10:31

In the photo of Harry and Meghan in the taxi (of which Meghan is sat smiling away) Harry is sat there holding his phone out as if recording the whole thing so bit baffled why he needs their footage if he has evidence himself.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 19/05/2023 10:32

tonkywonky · 19/05/2023 10:31

In the photo of Harry and Meghan in the taxi (of which Meghan is sat smiling away) Harry is sat there holding his phone out as if recording the whole thing so bit baffled why he needs their footage if he has evidence himself.

That's probably for his Netflix special.

BMW6 · 19/05/2023 10:41

Like others I am waiting to see all the mobile phone and cctv footage of this 2 hour car chase........there must be dozens of them covering most of the journey in bits. The noise the cars and paps made in this chase surely alerted the public to start recording on their phones!?

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 10:43

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 10:25

Have you pictures or statements from someone seeing the paps scooters and cars bumping off other cars and driving along the pavements? I think that's what we'd like to see because it would back up Harry's complaint and concern.

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The people who work locally wondered what was going on and asked the security guys around who told them about the parked cars.

https://twitter.com/Mimicinque/status/1659310904851169281

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 10:45

tonkywonky · 19/05/2023 10:31

In the photo of Harry and Meghan in the taxi (of which Meghan is sat smiling away) Harry is sat there holding his phone out as if recording the whole thing so bit baffled why he needs their footage if he has evidence himself.

You don't know if he recorded the full 2hrs.

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 10:49

I think it's clear H&Ms security detail were the ones using poor driving. I think the couple saw an opportunity to dramatise the situation by trying to take evasive action but it backfired on them and got out of control. Waste of police resources and time.

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 10:50

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 10:43

The people who work locally wondered what was going on and asked the security guys around who told them about the parked cars.

https://twitter.com/Mimicinque/status/1659310904851169281

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Fair enough. It's strange the paps were circling round, hitting the cars before she'd even come out and security didn't call the police. But these guys are defenitely telling the truth as to what they were told.

polkadotdalmation · 19/05/2023 10:51

I think harry was recording as evidence for his RAVEC case but because it's clear it was a dramatised stunt he will shelve it.

AliceOlive · 19/05/2023 10:52

sashagabadon · 19/05/2023 06:54

Backgrid look shit too but they are playing to an American audience that laps up all the we kicked out the monarchy in 1776 ( or whenever)

No one here in US cares about this. It’s become a show to watch, nothing more.

Also, several US programs wanted quotes from Buckingham Palace on Harry’s interviews. They replied asking to see the footage. How could they comment on something they’d never seen? One of them made hay out of it as if BP demanded it because it made for a good story. People see through that.

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 11:02

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 10:50

Fair enough. It's strange the paps were circling round, hitting the cars before she'd even come out and security didn't call the police. But these guys are defenitely telling the truth as to what they were told.

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No one said police were not called.
The other footage shows lots of traffic, so quite possibly that either the police were caught in traffic or somewhere else more important. I can't see them rushing to the scene of parked cars unless someone is actually reported injured or in immediate danger. To me it sounds like those cases that police come later to take a statement and do a not so urgent investigation on. I'm thinking more on the lines of police called in later by the car owners to get a police/case number for their insurance etc.

Still I do agree that it's reckless and dangerous. Someone vulnerable could have been in the parked car. Someone could have been hidden from view in front of the car and got squashed in. I think that 'near catastrophic' comes in play in that sense.

TeaIsRisen · 19/05/2023 11:05

ShimmeringShirts · 19/05/2023 10:26

Clicked on this thread thinking the clothing store H&M had a suitable rival out there with clothes I might actually be able to wear. Don’t suppose anyone has any recommendations? I quite like H&M but their clothes never last.

Zara maybe? Or too trendy? Uniqlo is good quality.

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PicturesOfDogs · 19/05/2023 11:09

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 11:02

No one said police were not called.
The other footage shows lots of traffic, so quite possibly that either the police were caught in traffic or somewhere else more important. I can't see them rushing to the scene of parked cars unless someone is actually reported injured or in immediate danger. To me it sounds like those cases that police come later to take a statement and do a not so urgent investigation on. I'm thinking more on the lines of police called in later by the car owners to get a police/case number for their insurance etc.

Still I do agree that it's reckless and dangerous. Someone vulnerable could have been in the parked car. Someone could have been hidden from view in front of the car and got squashed in. I think that 'near catastrophic' comes in play in that sense.

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But not ‘near catastrophic car chase’ which was what the statement said.

How can a car chase involve parked cars?

It’s the word ‘chase’ that’s been bothering me about this I think.

The word chase gives off very different imagery (more dramatic) to ‘followed’.

If someone told me they were being chased on foot, I’d assume they were running.

If they told me they were being followed I wouldn’t.

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MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2023 11:10

RightWhereYouLeftMe · 19/05/2023 10:05

That seems a slightly different situation. If they said "We received a response from the law firm representing Buckingham Palace" that suggests they contacted BP first, presumably asking for comment/a response on the interview. They were then asked for a full copy which was refused.

Or have I misinterpreted that, and BP requested it out of the blue?

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I wasn't talking about the actual situations, but just the tone & language used in the statements.

Susan2 · 19/05/2023 11:10

If, (repeat if) there will be a court case about dangerous behaviour. It would not be unreasonable to ask to see it.
"Demanding" would be different. The RF would not demand over here. Megs is just too up herself. Low grade celeb.

Birchtrees · 19/05/2023 11:15

Where can I see the photo of the chase described above?

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 11:15

PicturesOfDogs · 19/05/2023 11:09

But not ‘near catastrophic car chase’ which was what the statement said.

How can a car chase involve parked cars?

It’s the word ‘chase’ that’s been bothering me about this I think.

The word chase gives off very different imagery (more dramatic) to ‘followed’.

If someone told me they were being chased on foot, I’d assume they were running.

If they told me they were being followed I wouldn’t.

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Chasing is the correct work, because it's not wanted.

If I tell my friends in a car behind me they must follow me. That is different.

Me trying to evade you by ducking and diving - even going to the police station is definitely chasing.

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 11:16

*correct word

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 11:18

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 11:02

No one said police were not called.
The other footage shows lots of traffic, so quite possibly that either the police were caught in traffic or somewhere else more important. I can't see them rushing to the scene of parked cars unless someone is actually reported injured or in immediate danger. To me it sounds like those cases that police come later to take a statement and do a not so urgent investigation on. I'm thinking more on the lines of police called in later by the car owners to get a police/case number for their insurance etc.

Still I do agree that it's reckless and dangerous. Someone vulnerable could have been in the parked car. Someone could have been hidden from view in front of the car and got squashed in. I think that 'near catastrophic' comes in play in that sense.

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I don't think the police could have been called because the police said there were no collisions or incidents. And a load of paps driving round the block waiting for Meghan to come out smashing into cars as they drove down the road would definitely count as collisions and incidents, don't you think? 😄 Even if they didn't get there, they'd know about it. Because I'm pretty sure if a group of people were crashing off several cars, the police would be making an effort to get there. As you say, that's dangerous stuff!

CosmosQueen · 19/05/2023 11:21

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 11:18

I don't think the police could have been called because the police said there were no collisions or incidents. And a load of paps driving round the block waiting for Meghan to come out smashing into cars as they drove down the road would definitely count as collisions and incidents, don't you think? 😄 Even if they didn't get there, they'd know about it. Because I'm pretty sure if a group of people were crashing off several cars, the police would be making an effort to get there. As you say, that's dangerous stuff!

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They had 4 SUVs with security guards and a NYPD car. So why call the NYPD if they already had one accompanying them?