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H&M vs Backgrid

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PicturesOfDogs · 18/05/2023 20:51

H&M have apparently ’demanded’ pap footage from Backgrid, according to TMZ.

Their lawyer has replied with the following:

In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do. Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago. We stand by our founding fathers

Court case #6 incoming?

https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/18/prince-harry-meghan-markle-demand-photo-agency-give-them-footage-of-chase/

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Demand Photo Agency Give Them Footage of 'Chase'

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle are trying to put the squeeze on a photo agency that claimed their freelance paparazzi who followed the couple Tuesday night were not, as M&H claimed, "highly aggressive" and didn't cause a near-collision.

https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/18/prince-harry-meghan-markle-demand-photo-agency-give-them-footage-of-chase/

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Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 09:14

ClaireEclair · 19/05/2023 08:13

I’m loathe to admit to reading the Daily Mail but when Megan won the latest award it was headline news. And then the ‘car chase’ took over.

It's not true there's no report on Meghans award. There's a detailed write up about the ceremony in the Mail if you were interested in reading about it.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 19/05/2023 09:16

8roses · 19/05/2023 09:11

😂

😂😂 South Park have another episode to write haha

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2023 09:16

😶

H&M vs Backgrid
whoamI00 · 19/05/2023 09:29

On what ground should the freelancer photographers hand over photos and videos they took? On what ground?

Namechange828492 · 19/05/2023 09:32

The snark is at 100% here haha

Off topic - I love Meghan's dress

Premiumbondbaby · 19/05/2023 09:33

I suspect at some stage we will get compiled CCTV from lots of different cameras showing a lot of what happened.

I definitely think H was triggered so what I don’t understand is why in both the SUV and the taxi H, M & D are not wearing seatbelts.

H & M are trying to play a dangerous game with the press/media. They want the publicity shots on their terms but then want them to stop taking photos when they demand it.

Morestrangerthings · 19/05/2023 09:45

And as for the claim the videos and photos are no longer available - they're still all over US media.

I can’t find them.
im not in the UK, also not in the US, but I’ve searched NY post, US magazine and People magazine as well as news.com and I can’t find any images of the car chase. Just wondering if I’m looking in the wrong places?

All I’ve seen is of them sitting in a stationary yellow cab.

Why aren’t the images readily available. Why not available everywhere? It is confusing.

goldierocks · 19/05/2023 09:50

"The paparazzi themselves corroborate that there was some questionable driving going on"

According to the report in The Times, the 'questionable driving' was from H & M's security:

Witnesses, the couple’s taxi driver and police officials have cast doubt on their initial description of events, with some disputing that lives were at risk.The photographers accused of driving dangerously went further, claiming that the duke and duchess’s team were the ones being irresponsible behind the wheel.

One paparazzi driver involved in the pursuit has countered the claims of the duke and duchess. He blamed the couple’s team for any “catastrophic experience” they had, telling ITV anonymously that their driver was at fault for “zigzagging” and “blocking” vehicles. A celebrity news agency claiming to hold video of the pursuit echoed his observation.

The agency (Backgrid) accused the driver of “one of the four SUVs from Prince Harry’s security escort” of “driving in a manner that could be perceived as reckless”.

It said: “The vehicle was seen blocking off streets, and in one video it is shown being pulled over by the police.”

Another witness came forward to say that the couple’s team had been taunting the photographers. “They were mocking the paps, provoking them,” the witness told the New York Post. “These security egged on the paps.”

HERE is a link to the full article in The Times, which has a detailed timeline of events.

What really happened during Harry and Meghan’s car chase?

“Recollections may vary”, the late Queen once remarked in response to damaging claims from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex about the royal family.The same observ

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/09950a70-f598-11ed-bbd9-d67390476214?shareToken=376be1928374d84ebc1f807d86379496

HeidiWhole · 19/05/2023 09:51

I have seen this but they are just in a cab. Interesting that none of them appear to be wearing seatbelts in one of the still shots.

www.tmz.com/2023/05/17/prince-harry-meghan-markle-followed-paparazzi-car-chase/

Howsimplywonderful · 19/05/2023 09:56

The Sussex’s hired local security in the form
of Buda Security who had 2 stars out of 5 on their Facebook page. They seem to spend their time transporting ‘scabs’ across union picket lines so are clearly unused to this type of situation but probably cheap as chips

I even thought why not drive to the plaza a few blocks away and then slip out and I don’t have a security background

Why was this melodrama enacted on the day of days judicial review you may ask, why the shit poor security when in January had quite a professional bunch around him when he appeared with Stephen Colbert

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2023 09:56

Morestrangerthings · 19/05/2023 09:45

And as for the claim the videos and photos are no longer available - they're still all over US media.

I can’t find them.
im not in the UK, also not in the US, but I’ve searched NY post, US magazine and People magazine as well as news.com and I can’t find any images of the car chase. Just wondering if I’m looking in the wrong places?

All I’ve seen is of them sitting in a stationary yellow cab.

Why aren’t the images readily available. Why not available everywhere? It is confusing.

Because there was never any images of the "car chase" published. The only images released were of them sitting in the cab or their SUVs entering & leaving the event. There's now some grainy photos of them getting out of the cab.

The same images are on TMZ, The View, CNN etc.

There's nothing else to search for, so you've not missed anything.

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 09:58

I can’t find any images of the car chase.

Are there images of a car chase? I thought the whole issue was that there were no images. I thought the deleted images were of them getting into a taxi? We've seen photos of them in a taxi, we've seen a video of paps taking photos of them in a taxi. None of that seems to have been deleted. But I thought we were waiting for any snaps or short videos made by the public. I mean there must be quite a lot of film of them almost hitting pedestrians, police, cars, and driving along pavements, etc when it was happening for two hours. I'm sure people will be releasing it today.

CosmosQueen · 19/05/2023 10:00

RegainingTheWill2023 · 19/05/2023 08:46

I don't understand why the police did not act on the repeated dangerous driving actions of the paparazzi

And why is there no cctv footage according to the NY CCTV Head?

CosmosQueen · 19/05/2023 10:01

8roses · 19/05/2023 09:11

😂

He’s probably got Backgrid on speed dial.

thebellagio · 19/05/2023 10:03

Surely with the amount of CCTV that's in New York it wouldn't be difficult to find some CCTV footage of either the paps driving dangerously, or of the security detail driving dangerously? If they are claiming that paps were driving bikes on pavements, surely someone somewhere would have taken mobile footage or CCTV cameras proving that?

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 10:04

HeidiWhole · 19/05/2023 09:51

I have seen this but they are just in a cab. Interesting that none of them appear to be wearing seatbelts in one of the still shots.

www.tmz.com/2023/05/17/prince-harry-meghan-markle-followed-paparazzi-car-chase/

Maybe because they just got into the stationery cab at that point?

RightWhereYouLeftMe · 19/05/2023 10:05

MrsFinkelstein · 19/05/2023 08:58

Not read the full thread, but I'm reminded of the comments made to the RF about them asking for a full copy of the Anderson Cooper interview with Harry before it aired (it had much less sark, but similar sentiments IMO).

"Lawyers of the crown also did that with Good Morning America when Prince Harry was interviewed by them. And again, Good Morning America refused.

"We received a response from the law firm representing Buckingham Palace this morning, while we were on the air, saying that the Palace needed to 'consider exactly what is said in the interview, in the context in which it appears' and asked that we supply them immediately with a copy of the entire interview, which we do not do as a news organization, as a matter of our policy," the morning show said in a statement."

Anderson Cooper made a comment on air about how things are done differently in the US (as they don't have a Monarchy being the unspoken shade was the interpretation many took).

That seems a slightly different situation. If they said "We received a response from the law firm representing Buckingham Palace" that suggests they contacted BP first, presumably asking for comment/a response on the interview. They were then asked for a full copy which was refused.

Or have I misinterpreted that, and BP requested it out of the blue?

mixedrecycling · 19/05/2023 10:06

Morestrangerthings · 19/05/2023 09:45

And as for the claim the videos and photos are no longer available - they're still all over US media.

I can’t find them.
im not in the UK, also not in the US, but I’ve searched NY post, US magazine and People magazine as well as news.com and I can’t find any images of the car chase. Just wondering if I’m looking in the wrong places?

All I’ve seen is of them sitting in a stationary yellow cab.

Why aren’t the images readily available. Why not available everywhere? It is confusing.

It is still available on TMZ

WitchBores · 19/05/2023 10:07

The pictures with all the body guards before the event look artificial to me, or is this how bodyguards act around celebrities in the US? There are so many men, several of them have their hands all over and around Meghan. It looks staged to me as if to convey that she is a VVVIP. 👑

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 10:08

Howsimplywonderful · 19/05/2023 09:56

The Sussex’s hired local security in the form
of Buda Security who had 2 stars out of 5 on their Facebook page. They seem to spend their time transporting ‘scabs’ across union picket lines so are clearly unused to this type of situation but probably cheap as chips

I even thought why not drive to the plaza a few blocks away and then slip out and I don’t have a security background

Why was this melodrama enacted on the day of days judicial review you may ask, why the shit poor security when in January had quite a professional bunch around him when he appeared with Stephen Colbert

But surely they took their security with them on the plane? That's when they're most surrounded by people. But I guess, to be fair, it is cheaper to just pay local agencies. And maybe it makes more sense because one of the security team was an ex secret service guy and he said it was the worst thing he'd ever seen. But I'd think that surely secret service guys would be dealing with snipers and deadly situations so for him to be overwhelmed by paps seems a bit 😕.

Haywirecity · 19/05/2023 10:14

RightWhereYouLeftMe · 19/05/2023 10:05

That seems a slightly different situation. If they said "We received a response from the law firm representing Buckingham Palace" that suggests they contacted BP first, presumably asking for comment/a response on the interview. They were then asked for a full copy which was refused.

Or have I misinterpreted that, and BP requested it out of the blue?

I think that's in linecwuthbtheurvresponses over the Netflix dramas,as well. The,TV companies have to ask anyone mentioned for their response to give them a chance to put their side. On each occasion BP said they couldn't respond unless they see what they're responding to in context. I think that's fair. The TV companies then decline to do that.

notanotheroneagain · 19/05/2023 10:16

goldierocks · 19/05/2023 09:50

"The paparazzi themselves corroborate that there was some questionable driving going on"

According to the report in The Times, the 'questionable driving' was from H & M's security:

Witnesses, the couple’s taxi driver and police officials have cast doubt on their initial description of events, with some disputing that lives were at risk.The photographers accused of driving dangerously went further, claiming that the duke and duchess’s team were the ones being irresponsible behind the wheel.

One paparazzi driver involved in the pursuit has countered the claims of the duke and duchess. He blamed the couple’s team for any “catastrophic experience” they had, telling ITV anonymously that their driver was at fault for “zigzagging” and “blocking” vehicles. A celebrity news agency claiming to hold video of the pursuit echoed his observation.

The agency (Backgrid) accused the driver of “one of the four SUVs from Prince Harry’s security escort” of “driving in a manner that could be perceived as reckless”.

It said: “The vehicle was seen blocking off streets, and in one video it is shown being pulled over by the police.”

Another witness came forward to say that the couple’s team had been taunting the photographers. “They were mocking the paps, provoking them,” the witness told the New York Post. “These security egged on the paps.”

HERE is a link to the full article in The Times, which has a detailed timeline of events.

It's the paparazzi (hidden I may add), of course they would say that.
Duh.

It was the paparazzi going around bumping off parked cars. Going over sidewalks etc.

CathyorClaire · 19/05/2023 10:20

Odd that both sides of the previously seemingly amicable arrangement have got snitty.

Got to wonder what's been going on behind the scenes 🕵

Acheyknees · 19/05/2023 10:22

I worry where this is all going to end up for Harry now. Whatever happened after the awards ceremony, it was poorly managed and an awful reminder of what happened to his mother. They really should not have allowed themselves to be put in that situation in the first place. After the Kings Coronation, it would have been wise to avoid these types of events until the interest in him has waned. I wish he could have gone to Africa and worked on his charity projects rather than gone over to the US to try and earn a living. He's made a silly move if he wants privacy, no paparazzi and a normal life for his family.

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