H&M vs Backgrid

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H&M have apparently ’demanded’ pap footage from Backgrid, according to TMZ.

Their lawyer has replied with the following:

In America, as I'm sure you know, property belongs to the owner of it: Third parties cannot just demand it be given to them, as perhaps Kings can do. Perhaps you should sit down with your client and advise them that his English rules of royal prerogative to demand that the citizenry hand over their property to the Crown were rejected by this country long ago. We stand by our founding fathers

Court case #6 incoming?

https://amp.tmz.com/2023/05/18/prince-harry-meghan-markle-demand-photo-agency-give-them-footage-of-chase/

upinaballoon according to Wiki: "On June 9, the book reached number three on Amazon's American bestseller list and was number one in the Children's Emotions books category. On June 17, the book reached number one on the children's picture books category of The New York Times Best Seller list"

Unfortunately, despite these powerhouse women being awarded, it really doesn’t get the coverage it should as far as I can see. I searched NY post, New Yorker, and another news outlet (forgotten which one) but finally found one in The Wash Post. The Ms Awards is an annual event. And worthy. But you know media tends not to value womens imput nearly as much as it deserves.

I found the article on Washington Post about the awards. And awardees. Meghan leads the article but you get to read about other women honoured on the night. They’re all impressive.

It’s an interesting read in full. And I’ve provided a link. But I’ve pulled out bits from the article in case the link doesn’t work (I’m not great at linking).

From the article: “Black Voters Matter co-founder LaTosha Brown received her Woman of Vision award from her longtime friend #MeToo movement founder Tarana Burke, ……“Even pain has a purpose,” she said. “What’s happening in this country right now, this isn’t just a matter about what the Republicans or the Democrats are going to do. It really is a question about what is it that we’re going to do collectively to lean into this moment of discomfort and recognize it as an opportunity to get it right because we haven’t gotten it right.”

“The Ms. foundation also honored Wanda Irving, co-founder of Dr. Shalon’s Maternal Action Project, and Kimberly Inez McGuire, executive director of URGE, as well as Texas abortion rights activist Olivia Julianna and LGBTQ+ advocate Rebekah Bruesehoff.”

(If you search for 2023 Ms Awards you will find more info and images of the women, and also the committee ‘the founding mothers’ etc.)

Washington Post Ms Awards

How is she one of the most powerful women in the world?

@Gilmorehill - it was said up thread that she wrote her own bio.

a legend in her own lunchtime

Writing the Bench 😂

@Gilmorehill One of the most powerful women in the world?
So the UN thing was short lived and I believe she didn't get the leverage she wanted so cut ties after a couple of years. The other things never made her well known until she married harry and archwell is a joint venture project with many other charities they have hitched themselves to who appear to do all the work.

Commendable yes but certainly nothing to make her any more special that the other women in 9 pages of award winners.

Writing one childrens book that someone else illustrated is also commendable but it hardly makes her julia Donaldson.

I'm sure Meghan is a woman of multiple talents, not least networking, however she is not one of the most powerful woman in the world

Commendable yes but certainly nothing to make her any more special that the other women in 9 pages of award winners.

You're conflating 2 different set of awards. The Gracie awards are for women in the media, tv, films, radio, etc. 40 categories.

Those bios came from the Gloria Steinham Ms Foundation awards. 4 winners. I read that the other three winners were quite miffed that Meghan was one of the recipients alongside them. It does seem like they have achieved a lot in their own right.

Thank you for the effort you made and sharing it. It is one of those "you don't know what you don't know until you find out about it."

I wonder why she didn’t put

former Vice-President of the Queens Commonwealth Trust in her bio???

maybe cos they were booted out?

Thank you.

I wonder why she didn’t put

former Vice-President of the Queens Commonwealth Trustin her bio???

maybe cos they were booted out?

Or maybe because they'd prefer to draw a veil over their time in charge which saw the trust spending the overwhelming majority of its income on 'staff costs' and pimping BetterUp

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/19/queen-commonwealth-trust-prince-harry

@Haywirecity The only point I'm making is none of these things make her 'one of the most powerful women in the world'. That's just a ridiculous claim.

@CathyorClaire Oh yes, I know they took funds from one organisation and put that funding into their own project. Can't remember the ins and outs of it but one was winding up so they used the left over funds for themselves.

I think so too. But she does excite a lot of attention for some reason. You can understand it in the UK to some extent. But are Americans really that bothered?

@Haywirecity Their target audience was always the American public but those that were interested seem less enamoured because of their antics, and some never were interested. Some feel like I do that you just don't throw your family under the bus and try to destroy their hard won reputation. H&M have an good PR team though so may well pull it back.

Frankly I don't give a toss as long as they leave this country and the royal family alone. I didn't have much time for the RF before, apart from the queen, but I always want to support the people being attacked. Had zero negative interest in M&H until the infamous Oprah interview.

Or maybe because they'd prefer to draw a veil over their time in charge (of the Queen's Commonwealth Trust) which saw the trust spending the overwhelming majority of its income on 'staff costs' and pimping BetterUp

I wasn't aware of that Cathy, but really shouldn't be surprised

Once again, sadly, they seem to have regarded an initiative as being about them rather than who it was actually meant to benefit ... as I've said so often, absolutely no judgement at all

She is pretty, though.

Yes the most important thing is to be attractive.

Great article I found on the Sussexes letter of demand to Backgrid and the lawyer who wrote the clapback:

https://www.avclub.com/harry-and-meghan-hollywood-lawyer-smackdown-backgrid-1850472390

The entitlement and ego from these two, I just don't know how their fans can explain this away as though they're the victims once again.

I think Backgrid’s letter ( and the fact that it was publicly released ) to be attention-seeking and unprofessional. In fact it makes me wonder if they are all working together.

Sorry just to clarify, did the poster add the part about Meghan being one of the most powerful women in the world? Or did that actually appear in her bio? It's shocking if she wrote that herself. She has a lot of media attention and a big platform but she's not one of the most powerful women in the world. She has very little real power. She's not a politician, she doesn't oversee some of the largest and most influential charities in the world, she hasn't created systemic change through a worldwide campaign, she hasn't won international events, she's not a lead business woman. She's one of the most publicised and well recognised women in the world. Those are very different things. I'd she wrote that herself then I would consider that arrangement and inaccurate. It provides interesting insight into how she views herself and what she wants to do with her life and future. Being one of the most powerful women in the world is quite an ambitious goal. It must be extremely hard to accept when people and staff tell you what to do or simply say the others are above you. For what it's worth, I wouldn't consider Kate in the category of one of the most powerful women of the world either.

That book was absolutely terrible. I know there's more leeway when it comes to writing children’s books (as in those aimed at very young children), but the writing was simply awful, and a great example of the unearned privilege that her royal title gave her. There is no way that that book would have been published to become a NYT best seller if she had simply been Meghan Markle, before she married harry.

I think it's a lesson for the sussexes that not everyone will be cowed down by their royal titles and they can't use the victim narrative in this scenario. The biggest irony is that Meghan won her case against the daily mail due to copyright law, and yet here she is along with harry demanding the photos and videos to which they don't have any rights to.

I did not know where the belief that she wrote her own bio came from. She may have, but I can’t find evidence of it. Can anyone else?

I don’t think she’s one of the most powerful women in the world, but I do agree she is one of the most well known by now, and that does bring with it influence.

She has quite a few well known women in her corner so it indicates to me that she’s a more substantial person than tabloid style media, or her social media detractors, would have it.

She has become the most well known current example of how media and social media like to tear a woman down. No person’s life/actions/past could survive unblemished with the sort of scrutiny Meghan is subjected to. None of us are perfect so why demand it of Meghan, or Kate etc. That woman do this to another woman is truly lamentable. I don’t believe for a second that racism is always the reason for the denigration of Meghan but I do think racism is a substantial factor, absolutely. Well known Women like Oprah, Michelle Obama, Viola Davis, Kamala Harris, Halle Berry etc have all talked about the racism they have experienced, so the idea that we can deny that racism is not a factor in Meghan’s life now is either wilfully ignorant or just plain ignorant or naive.

Please note: I have written that I don’t think all criticism aimed at Meghan is racist.

The part of the Ms bio that mentions ‘one of the most powerful and influential.’ (author unknown, at this point.):

“Meghan is noted as one of the most powerful and influential women in the world, topping lists such as TIME Magazine’s Most Influential People, The Financial Times’ 25 Most Influential Women, Variety Power of Women, and British Vogue’s Vogue 25.”

I cut out a first sentence of my post above in which I made clear I was talking about Meghan. I did not realise (until I posted) there’s now a whole bunch of ‘she’s’ before I get to finally writing her name. Apologies.,